11-10-2022, 06:41 PM
11-10-2022, 06:56 PM
If that were to happen:
MW: UTEP
AAC: Georgia State
Sun Belt: Delaware
C-USA: Stephen F. Austin
MW: UTEP
AAC: Georgia State
Sun Belt: Delaware
C-USA: Stephen F. Austin
11-10-2022, 07:07 PM
A lot of AAC fans would hope to replace SMU with Air Force and/or CSU.
It's been suggested that the AAC added 3 Texas schools from the CUSA in order to make it more feasible for AFA or CSU to make the switch.
The best possible addition for the AAC, if they can't get AFA and CSU, might be AFA football and one of the upper-tier basketball schools from the A-10.
It's been suggested that the AAC added 3 Texas schools from the CUSA in order to make it more feasible for AFA or CSU to make the switch.
The best possible addition for the AAC, if they can't get AFA and CSU, might be AFA football and one of the upper-tier basketball schools from the A-10.
11-10-2022, 07:16 PM
(11-10-2022 07:07 PM)Milwaukee Wrote: [ -> ]A lot of AAC fans would hope to replace SMU with Air Force and/or CSU.
It's been suggested that the AAC added 3 Texas schools from the CUSA in order to make it more feasible for AFA or CSU to make the switch.
The best possible addition for the AAC, if they can't get AFA and CSU, might be AFA football and one of the upper-tier basketball schools from the A-10.
A10 schools didn't jump when the league had UConn, Cincinnati, or Houston. They're going to jump when they lose SMU too? Don't see it.
It'd be much more likely for Wichita State to jump to the A10.
11-10-2022, 07:20 PM
(11-10-2022 07:16 PM)GoldenWarrior11 Wrote: [ -> ](11-10-2022 07:07 PM)Milwaukee Wrote: [ -> ]A lot of AAC fans would hope to replace SMU with Air Force and/or CSU.
It's been suggested that the AAC added 3 Texas schools from the CUSA in order to make it more feasible for AFA or CSU to make the switch.
The best possible addition for the AAC, if they can't get AFA and CSU, might be AFA football and one of the upper-tier basketball schools from the A-10.
A10 schools didn't jump when the league had UConn, Cincinnati, or Houston. They're going to jump when they lose SMU too? Don't see it.
It'd be much more likely for Wichita State to jump to the A10.
Yup. I'll repeat what I've said before: UMass is likely the only school that would bite, and it would require us getting the football team in as well.
Since that won't happen, there won't be movement from the A10 to the AAC from any top tier teams.
11-10-2022, 07:33 PM
(11-10-2022 07:20 PM)e-parade Wrote: [ -> ](11-10-2022 07:16 PM)GoldenWarrior11 Wrote: [ -> ](11-10-2022 07:07 PM)Milwaukee Wrote: [ -> ]A lot of AAC fans would hope to replace SMU with Air Force and/or CSU.
It's been suggested that the AAC added 3 Texas schools from the CUSA in order to make it more feasible for AFA or CSU to make the switch.
The best possible addition for the AAC, if they can't get AFA and CSU, might be AFA football and one of the upper-tier basketball schools from the A-10.
A10 schools didn't jump when the league had UConn, Cincinnati, or Houston. They're going to jump when they lose SMU too? Don't see it.
It'd be much more likely for Wichita State to jump to the A10.
Yup. I'll repeat what I've said before: UMass is likely the only school that would bite, and it would require us getting the football team in as well.
Since that won't happen, there won't be movement from the A10 to the AAC from any top tier teams.
For that matter, it also seems pretty unlikely that Air Force would join the AAC as a football-only member, so the notion of adding AFA and a top tier A10 school may be a pipe dream at this point. Not impossible, but seemingly improbable.
Regarding UMass, they could be a great addition for the AAC (R1, state flagship, excellent market area), if only they could build a capable FB program, like UConn has shown signs of being able to do.
11-10-2022, 07:39 PM
(11-10-2022 07:16 PM)GoldenWarrior11 Wrote: [ -> ](11-10-2022 07:07 PM)Milwaukee Wrote: [ -> ]A lot of AAC fans would hope to replace SMU with Air Force and/or CSU.
It's been suggested that the AAC added 3 Texas schools from the CUSA in order to make it more feasible for AFA or CSU to make the switch.
The best possible addition for the AAC, if they can't get AFA and CSU, might be AFA football and one of the upper-tier basketball schools from the A-10.
A10 schools didn't jump when the league had UConn, Cincinnati, or Houston. They're going to jump when they lose SMU too? Don't see it.
It'd be much more likely for Wichita State to jump to the A10.
No one is going to the A-10 without someone else moving out. It's already unreasonably large.
11-10-2022, 07:44 PM
(11-10-2022 07:07 PM)Milwaukee Wrote: [ -> ]A lot of AAC fans would hope to replace SMU with Air Force and/or CSU.
It's been suggested that the AAC added 3 Texas schools from the CUSA in order to make it more feasible for AFA or CSU to make the switch.
The best possible addition for the AAC, if they can't get AFA and CSU, might be AFA football and one of the upper-tier basketball schools from the A-10.
Yeah--I think the ship has sailed on those kinds of additions. The replacement cupboard is so bare it probably doesnt matter who they take. Its going to be a Charlotte/FIU type addition so---nothing earth shattering. If you replacing a western team---maybe someone like LaTech, Louisiana, or ArkySt? If you go east---maybe they can coax a Marshall or a App St to join. I'd get a program that at least invests in athletics and has a history of football success. If the AAC tries for another "market" addition---I think thats a bad idea at this point.
11-10-2022, 07:54 PM
I have the AAC replacing SMU with AFA and the MWC adding UTEP and NMSU.
11-10-2022, 08:26 PM
IF MWC - (SDSU + Hawaii (FB))
THEN MWC + (NMST + UTEP)
<!-- Reinforces NM -->
<!-- Regional Replacements -->
<!-- NO FCS Call Ups -->
IF AAC - SMU
THEN AAC + FIU
<!-- Major Metropolitan Area -->
<!-- Miami, FL -->
<!-- Reinforces FL -->
ELSE AAC + GAST
<!-- Major Metropolitan Area -->
<!-- Atlanta, GA -->
ELSE AAC + TXST
<!-- TX Replacement for SMU -->
<!-- Reinforces TX -->
THEN MWC + (NMST + UTEP)
<!-- Reinforces NM -->
<!-- Regional Replacements -->
<!-- NO FCS Call Ups -->
IF AAC - SMU
THEN AAC + FIU
<!-- Major Metropolitan Area -->
<!-- Miami, FL -->
<!-- Reinforces FL -->
ELSE AAC + GAST
<!-- Major Metropolitan Area -->
<!-- Atlanta, GA -->
ELSE AAC + TXST
<!-- TX Replacement for SMU -->
<!-- Reinforces TX -->
11-10-2022, 08:45 PM
If both SDSU and SMU are added, then I think that you might essentially see a merger of the MWC and the American.
Boise State, Fresno State, Colorado State, Wyoming, Air Force, and UNLV.
Frankly, I don't think that SMU will be invited to the PAC. That's not a knock on the Mustangs but rather an acknowledgement that SMU is not a fit for the conference.
I think that PAC will add SDSU only or invite UNLV along for the ride. If that happens, I still expect the American add at least 4 MWC teams, possibly 6.
Boise State, Fresno State, Colorado State, Wyoming, Air Force, and UNLV.
Frankly, I don't think that SMU will be invited to the PAC. That's not a knock on the Mustangs but rather an acknowledgement that SMU is not a fit for the conference.
I think that PAC will add SDSU only or invite UNLV along for the ride. If that happens, I still expect the American add at least 4 MWC teams, possibly 6.
11-10-2022, 08:45 PM
I think it's very likely the MW would just stay put at 11 football members/10 all sports if they only lose SDSU. None of the candidates really offer enough to split the pie. If UTEP or NMSU ever got their football programs going they would make sense, but they're just always awful.
As far as the AAC; if Air Force wouldn't join before, I see no reason that they'd leave now. SDSU isn't a rival for them, and them leaving doesn't really change anything. I doubt anyone from the Sun Belt would join, but Georgia State would make sense. Realistically maybe Middle Tennessee or UTEP?
As far as the AAC; if Air Force wouldn't join before, I see no reason that they'd leave now. SDSU isn't a rival for them, and them leaving doesn't really change anything. I doubt anyone from the Sun Belt would join, but Georgia State would make sense. Realistically maybe Middle Tennessee or UTEP?
11-10-2022, 08:48 PM
I'm here to see how many people still blindly ship Georgia State to the AAC without doing any research first.
11-10-2022, 09:05 PM
(11-10-2022 08:45 PM)Barbershop Wrote: [ -> ]I think it's very likely the MW would just stay put at 11 football members/10 all sports if they only lose SDSU. None of the candidates really offer enough to split the pie. If UTEP or NMSU ever got their football programs going they would make sense, but they're just always awful.
As far as the AAC; if Air Force wouldn't join before, I see no reason that they'd leave now. SDSU isn't a rival for them, and them leaving doesn't really change anything.
The main reasons why Air Force might join the AAC are that (a) they have shown interest in the idea in the past, (b) they'd like the idea of being in the same conference with Navy, © the departure of San Diego State would be somewhat of a hit to the prestige of the MWC, and (d) the addition of UTSA, UNT, and Rice to the AAC makes the possibility of them joining the American more feasible.
(11-10-2022 08:48 PM)Yosef181 Wrote: [ -> ]I'm just here to see how many people still blindly ship Georgia State to the AAC without doing any research first.
It does seem unlikely that any Sun Belt school will end up in the American, since ESPN seems to have prevented the AAC from raiding the SBC in the 2023 realignment - - which is why they're adding the "CUSA6," instead.
11-11-2022, 01:29 AM
(11-10-2022 06:41 PM)Milwaukee Wrote: [ -> ].AAC goes after Texas State which is way outside the SBC footprint - UALR and UTA were pushed out.
POLL: Which schools would MWC & AAC add if the PAC adds SDSU & SMU?
Neighbors of UNT, UTSA, and Rice are more interesting than Arkansas State, Louisiana, and Louisiana-Monroe.
11-11-2022, 01:52 AM
AFA would be the AAC dream grab but I’m guessing that they are still not interested.
Institutionally, GA St makes the most sense for the AAC within their footprint but ESPN might steer the AAC towards adding from C-USA to protect their interests in the SBC. If C-USA is the pool they have to pick from, MTSU or LA Tech seem like the leading candidates, provided instate Memphis and Tulane don’t object.
On the MWC side, you’ve got a dilemma. UTEP and NMSU are there for the taking. Montana isn’t going to come without an invitation for Montana St. You could be looking a surprise wildcard like Sacramento St or UC Davis.
Institutionally, GA St makes the most sense for the AAC within their footprint but ESPN might steer the AAC towards adding from C-USA to protect their interests in the SBC. If C-USA is the pool they have to pick from, MTSU or LA Tech seem like the leading candidates, provided instate Memphis and Tulane don’t object.
On the MWC side, you’ve got a dilemma. UTEP and NMSU are there for the taking. Montana isn’t going to come without an invitation for Montana St. You could be looking a surprise wildcard like Sacramento St or UC Davis.
11-11-2022, 05:25 AM
On the MWC side I think staying at 11 is the most likely outcome. Adding UTEP is a possibility but with the elimination of divisional play in football there’s really no need for 12. And 10 is a good number for non-football sports.
There’s a small chance of going to 14 with UTEP, Montana and Montana State, if it starts to look more likely that the B1G is about to pull the trigger on Washington and Oregon.
There’s a small chance of going to 14 with UTEP, Montana and Montana State, if it starts to look more likely that the B1G is about to pull the trigger on Washington and Oregon.
11-11-2022, 12:11 PM
If this happened or happens, I picked that UTEP goes to the Mountain West and MTSU would go to the AAC. I think at that point, the MAC would possibly offer a spot to Western Kentucky (which I assume that they’d still accept) and someone else.
11-11-2022, 12:23 PM
I think LA Tech could slip into the AAC. Best program that side of the Mississippi. They won't double up with MTSU and Memphis.
11-11-2022, 12:24 PM
(11-10-2022 09:05 PM)Milwaukee Wrote: [ -> ](11-10-2022 08:45 PM)Barbershop Wrote: [ -> ]I think it's very likely the MW would just stay put at 11 football members/10 all sports if they only lose SDSU. None of the candidates really offer enough to split the pie. If UTEP or NMSU ever got their football programs going they would make sense, but they're just always awful.
As far as the AAC; if Air Force wouldn't join before, I see no reason that they'd leave now. SDSU isn't a rival for them, and them leaving doesn't really change anything.
The main reasons why Air Force might join the AAC are that (a) they have shown interest in the idea in the past, (b) they'd like the idea of being in the same conference with Navy, © the departure of San Diego State would be somewhat of a hit to the prestige of the MWC, and (d) the addition of UTSA, UNT, and Rice to the AAC makes the possibility of them joining the American more feasible.
(11-10-2022 08:48 PM)Yosef181 Wrote: [ -> ]I'm just here to see how many people still blindly ship Georgia State to the AAC without doing any research first.
It does seem unlikely that any Sun Belt school will end up in the American, since ESPN seems to have prevented the AAC from raiding the SBC in the 2023 realignment - - which is why they're adding the "CUSA6," instead.
The CUSA 6 were far better options for the AAC in their goals than any Sun Belt schools.