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(12-26-2022 11:47 PM)Nick from Ohio Wrote: [ -> ] (12-24-2022 07:40 PM)DetroitRocket Wrote: [ -> ] (12-23-2022 01:38 PM)Party on the hill Wrote: [ -> ] (12-23-2022 11:11 AM)Babes boy Wrote: [ -> ]I would point out that this is the lowest rated recruiting class we have had in years. 24/7 and On3 have us in the high 90s and rivals does not even have Toledo in the top 100.
Now that’s sad.
Likely because it's a very small class, 14 high school recruits.
The class does have the highest rating per recruit in the MAC. I've always thought that was a better gauge than the bigger the class the more points method.
Agreed! Quality not quantity.
Also, I would anticipate some positive momentum in the Transfer Portal before February once Blair and Candle can agree on terms of an extension.
as I posted. Using up scholarships on someone that hasn't proven yet to that standard, keeps it out of other potential hands. FIll the needs with not just the best available but with a set minimum upside.
I've wondered the economics for some of the top locals that go FCS or D2 to walk-on at UT vs. those lower divisions? There's so much scholarship money floating around, for an in-state I don't think much debt is built at all vs. the potential of earning a full-ride
There are only a few local schools that can develop a player to their capability. Some of these FCS, D2 kids might have a very high upside waiting for the right facilities and coaching.
Does one or two years as a walk-on at a D1 school mean you can't later accept whatever offer available at a lower division? Credit transfer might be an issue I guess.
Rod Orr originally a 4 star #23 OT commit for FSU, now
a Rocket.
I also noticed that Devan Rogers announced he was coming back for another season. Presumably they keep him on the OL? If so, that gives him a whole offseason to work on that side of the ball which will likely make him an even more effective player next year.
Is this a clear effort to add depth to the OL or normal numbers for a new class?
(01-12-2023 04:29 PM)eastisbest Wrote: [ -> ]Is this a clear effort to add depth to the OL or normal numbers for a new class?
Myself I don’t know the answer to that. But with their time already in a division one program I feel that alone is a plus.
The two oline guys are good additions. I saw a decline in line talent in recent years. Orr was a top 300 guy and buried on the depth chart at FSU behind a couple 5 star studs and two other 5th/6th year veterans. Talented guy who hopefully has the focus and drive to maximize his potential. Will certainly get his shot at UT. We've had good results w transfers from big name schools down south.
David Nwaogwugwu (NO-Goo-Goo) seems like insurance. Big strong guy who is a serious grad student -was working on a Labor and employee relations Masters at Rutgers and was an all-academic guy previously at Temple. Strikes me as a player who can be adequate if needed-occasional starter as a young guy at Temple, backup at Rutgers- and useful in film and practice sessions regardless of playing time. I imagine he transferred to have a chance to start in his final yr of eligibility and would have some motivation.
The high number of pre and early season line injuries, is that just my perception or has that been a reality? Are those numbers normal for a college team? Maybe it's something everyone expects to deal with.
(01-14-2023 12:51 PM)eastisbest Wrote: [ -> ]The high number of pre and early season line injuries, is that just my perception or has that been a reality? Are those numbers normal for a college team? Maybe it's something everyone expects to deal with.
Last time I looked at the roster from this year, we had something like 20 guys eligible to come back for the OL. Then we lost one to the portal (Dumont) and I haven't been following any other losses since then. That seems like an excessive number of players for the OL, but unless you get a stud recruit in, they rarely start many games until sophomore year after a RS year and their freshman year. Injuries hit every team, but we seem to lead the nation in casualties on the OL before the season starts.
(01-15-2023 06:14 AM)MotoRocket Wrote: [ -> ] (01-14-2023 12:51 PM)eastisbest Wrote: [ -> ]The high number of pre and early season line injuries, is that just my perception or has that been a reality? Are those numbers normal for a college team? Maybe it's something everyone expects to deal with.
Last time I looked at the roster from this year, we had something like 20 guys eligible to come back for the OL. Then we lost one to the portal (Dumont) and I haven't been following any other losses since then. That seems like an excessive number of players for the OL, but unless you get a stud recruit in, they rarely start many games until sophomore year after a RS year and their freshman year. Injuries hit every team, but we seem to lead the nation in casualties on the OL before the season starts.
Conditioning. One of the problems is tradional strength and conditioning focus on forward movement that causes muscular imbalances that contribute to knee and back issues. Some of new reverse training seems to improve that.
(01-15-2023 07:33 AM)Boca Rocket Wrote: [ -> ] (01-15-2023 06:14 AM)MotoRocket Wrote: [ -> ] (01-14-2023 12:51 PM)eastisbest Wrote: [ -> ]The high number of pre and early season line injuries, is that just my perception or has that been a reality? Are those numbers normal for a college team? Maybe it's something everyone expects to deal with.
Last time I looked at the roster from this year, we had something like 20 guys eligible to come back for the OL. Then we lost one to the portal (Dumont) and I haven't been following any other losses since then. That seems like an excessive number of players for the OL, but unless you get a stud recruit in, they rarely start many games until sophomore year after a RS year and their freshman year. Injuries hit every team, but we seem to lead the nation in casualties on the OL before the season starts.
Conditioning. One of the problems is tradional strength and conditioning focus on forward movement that causes muscular imbalances that contribute to knee and back issues. Some of new reverse training seems to improve that.
They don't seem to report how and when the injuries occur. They could be in games, practice snaps, drills, workouts. Or even risky "team building" games. That's why I was wondering how the numbers compare to other teams in general.
I'm finding what you mean about balance though. The hard way. A few days with the trainer and sticking with it and there has been no reoccurance of what had been debilitating. Now I'm thinking to add meditation and maybe yoga. These seem to have value in avoiding the avoidable.
(01-15-2023 03:44 PM)eastisbest Wrote: [ -> ] (01-15-2023 07:33 AM)Boca Rocket Wrote: [ -> ] (01-15-2023 06:14 AM)MotoRocket Wrote: [ -> ] (01-14-2023 12:51 PM)eastisbest Wrote: [ -> ]The high number of pre and early season line injuries, is that just my perception or has that been a reality? Are those numbers normal for a college team? Maybe it's something everyone expects to deal with.
Last time I looked at the roster from this year, we had something like 20 guys eligible to come back for the OL. Then we lost one to the portal (Dumont) and I haven't been following any other losses since then. That seems like an excessive number of players for the OL, but unless you get a stud recruit in, they rarely start many games until sophomore year after a RS year and their freshman year. Injuries hit every team, but we seem to lead the nation in casualties on the OL before the season starts.
Conditioning. One of the problems is tradional strength and conditioning focus on forward movement that causes muscular imbalances that contribute to knee and back issues. Some of new reverse training seems to improve that.
They don't seem to report how and when the injuries occur. They could be in games, practice snaps, drills, workouts. Or even risky "team building" games. That's why I was wondering how the numbers compare to other teams in general.
I'm finding what you mean about balance though. The hard way. A few days with the trainer and sticking with it and there has been no reoccurance of what had been debilitating. Now I'm thinking to add meditation and maybe yoga. These seem to have value in avoiding the avoidable.
Sounds very good!
(01-15-2023 06:14 AM)MotoRocket Wrote: [ -> ] (01-14-2023 12:51 PM)eastisbest Wrote: [ -> ]The high number of pre and early season line injuries, is that just my perception or has that been a reality? Are those numbers normal for a college team? Maybe it's something everyone expects to deal with.
Last time I looked at the roster from this year, we had something like 20 guys eligible to come back for the OL. Then we lost one to the portal (Dumont) and I haven't been following any other losses since then. That seems like an excessive number of players for the OL, but unless you get a stud recruit in, they rarely start many games until sophomore year after a RS year and their freshman year. Injuries hit every team, but we seem to lead the nation in casualties on the OL before the season starts.
There will be some serious size for the Rocket OL in 2023…
Two transfers Nagguchu 6-5 310 and Orr 6-6 300-(HS height & weight 6-7 296)
S.Gales redshirt fr. 6-6 320 and (HS 6-8 300)probably 6-7
Cole Rhett incoming fr. 6-7 315
(01-16-2023 09:26 AM)FMRocket Wrote: [ -> ] (01-15-2023 06:14 AM)MotoRocket Wrote: [ -> ] (01-14-2023 12:51 PM)eastisbest Wrote: [ -> ]The high number of pre and early season line injuries, is that just my perception or has that been a reality? Are those numbers normal for a college team? Maybe it's something everyone expects to deal with.
Last time I looked at the roster from this year, we had something like 20 guys eligible to come back for the OL. Then we lost one to the portal (Dumont) and I haven't been following any other losses since then. That seems like an excessive number of players for the OL, but unless you get a stud recruit in, they rarely start many games until sophomore year after a RS year and their freshman year. Injuries hit every team, but we seem to lead the nation in casualties on the OL before the season starts.
There will be some serious size for the Rocket OL in 2023…
Two transfers Nagguchu 6-5 310 and Orr 6-6 300-(HS height & weight 6-7 296)
S.Gales redshirt fr. 6-6 320 and (HS 6-8 300)probably 6-7
Cole Rhett incoming fr. 6-7 315
Need for speed. Quick feet. Big isn't good if the DE just run around and the LBs through. Get them into dancing class.
Ever wonder how the QBs see over and around these guys? So much not seen on the tv screen.
(01-16-2023 09:44 AM)eastisbest Wrote: [ -> ] (01-16-2023 09:26 AM)FMRocket Wrote: [ -> ] (01-15-2023 06:14 AM)MotoRocket Wrote: [ -> ] (01-14-2023 12:51 PM)eastisbest Wrote: [ -> ]The high number of pre and early season line injuries, is that just my perception or has that been a reality? Are those numbers normal for a college team? Maybe it's something everyone expects to deal with.
Last time I looked at the roster from this year, we had something like 20 guys eligible to come back for the OL. Then we lost one to the portal (Dumont) and I haven't been following any other losses since then. That seems like an excessive number of players for the OL, but unless you get a stud recruit in, they rarely start many games until sophomore year after a RS year and their freshman year. Injuries hit every team, but we seem to lead the nation in casualties on the OL before the season starts.
There will be some serious size for the Rocket OL in 2023…
Two transfers Nagguchu 6-5 310 and Orr 6-6 300-(HS height & weight 6-7 296)
S.Gales redshirt fr. 6-6 320 and (HS 6-8 300)probably 6-7
Cole Rhett incoming fr. 6-7 315
Need for speed. Quick feet. Big isn't good if the DE just run around and the LBs through. Get them into dancing class.
Ever wonder how the QBs see over and around these guys? So much not seen on the tv screen.
Valid points East !!
(01-16-2023 09:44 AM)eastisbest Wrote: [ -> ] (01-16-2023 09:26 AM)FMRocket Wrote: [ -> ] (01-15-2023 06:14 AM)MotoRocket Wrote: [ -> ] (01-14-2023 12:51 PM)eastisbest Wrote: [ -> ]The high number of pre and early season line injuries, is that just my perception or has that been a reality? Are those numbers normal for a college team? Maybe it's something everyone expects to deal with.
Last time I looked at the roster from this year, we had something like 20 guys eligible to come back for the OL. Then we lost one to the portal (Dumont) and I haven't been following any other losses since then. That seems like an excessive number of players for the OL, but unless you get a stud recruit in, they rarely start many games until sophomore year after a RS year and their freshman year. Injuries hit every team, but we seem to lead the nation in casualties on the OL before the season starts.
There will be some serious size for the Rocket OL in 2023…
Two transfers Nagguchu 6-5 310 and Orr 6-6 300-(HS height & weight 6-7 296)
S.Gales redshirt fr. 6-6 320 and (HS 6-8 300)probably 6-7
Cole Rhett incoming fr. 6-7 315
Need for speed. Quick feet. Big isn't good if the DE just run around and the LBs through. Get them into dancing class.
Ever wonder how the QBs see over and around these guys? So much not seen on the tv screen.
I know Orr played Basketball in HS. I would assume his footwork is good.
(01-16-2023 11:22 AM)Boca Rocket Wrote: [ -> ] (01-16-2023 09:44 AM)eastisbest Wrote: [ -> ] (01-16-2023 09:26 AM)FMRocket Wrote: [ -> ] (01-15-2023 06:14 AM)MotoRocket Wrote: [ -> ] (01-14-2023 12:51 PM)eastisbest Wrote: [ -> ]The high number of pre and early season line injuries, is that just my perception or has that been a reality? Are those numbers normal for a college team? Maybe it's something everyone expects to deal with.
Last time I looked at the roster from this year, we had something like 20 guys eligible to come back for the OL. Then we lost one to the portal (Dumont) and I haven't been following any other losses since then. That seems like an excessive number of players for the OL, but unless you get a stud recruit in, they rarely start many games until sophomore year after a RS year and their freshman year. Injuries hit every team, but we seem to lead the nation in casualties on the OL before the season starts.
There will be some serious size for the Rocket OL in 2023…
Two transfers Nagguchu 6-5 310 and Orr 6-6 300-(HS height & weight 6-7 296)
S.Gales redshirt fr. 6-6 320 and (HS 6-8 300)probably 6-7
Cole Rhett incoming fr. 6-7 315
Need for speed. Quick feet. Big isn't good if the DE just run around and the LBs through. Get them into dancing class.
Ever wonder how the QBs see over and around these guys? So much not seen on the tv screen.
I know Orr played Basketball in HS. I would assume his footwork is good.
Cole Rhett plays basketball as well , at Bishop Watterson HS in Columbus !!
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