(08-13-2021 05:47 PM)ericsrevenge76 Wrote: [ -> ] (08-13-2021 05:41 PM)aardWolf Wrote: [ -> ] (08-13-2021 05:30 PM)snowtiger Wrote: [ -> ]I told y'all there is no end to this. Someone just has to stop first.
I’ll bow out and let the Nazi accuser have the last word. I only argue with people like that on the clock anyway, and it’s past dinner time.
If you could give hard data showing significant mortality rates in healthy people with natural immunity in any variant you already would have 3 hours ago.
The simple fact is you can't. You spent 3 hours splitting hairs and you still can't.
For healthy people, natural immunity remains strong protection against Covid and its variants. Even without immunity death rates are incredibly low for healthy people under 50, you then add in natural antibodies and the risks are microscopic.
YES, forcing those people to take the vax anyway is nazi like behavior. Or communist behavior, or marxist behavior, take your pick.
So you are Ok with people going to doctor and testing for the antibodies and getting a "passport" saying they don't need a vaccine. Because surely you aren't just going to trust people to tell the truth.
(08-13-2021 06:10 PM)macgar32 Wrote: [ -> ] (08-13-2021 05:47 PM)ericsrevenge76 Wrote: [ -> ]If you could give hard data showing significant mortality rates in healthy people with natural immunity in any variant you already would have 3 hours ago.
The simple fact is you can't. You spent 3 hours splitting hairs and you still can't.
For healthy people, natural immunity remains strong protection against Covid and its variants. Even without immunity death rates are incredibly low for healthy people under 50, you then add in natural antibodies and the risks are microscopic.
YES, forcing those people to take the vax anyway is nazi like behavior. Or communist behavior, or marxist behavior, take your pick.
So you are Ok with people going to doctor and testing for the antibodies and getting a "passport" saying they don't need a vaccine. Because surely you aren't just going to trust people to tell the truth.
I don't need anyone to prove anything to me. Its up to me to roll with natural immunity or get a vax. I already know I have strong protection.
What other people choose to do is their business. If they want to get the vax, get it, if they want to wear a useless mask then wear it, if they want to go with natural immunity then go for it.
I have the antibodies so it does not concern me.
I am not going to play medical authoritarian commie with the rest of the country when I am already protected.
People lie. They say their dogs are service animals. They say they bought something somewhere else when you watched them put it in their purses. They say they have a medical exemption. They say they have been vaccinated. They say they will buy it if you special order it. They say they can get it cheaper down the street. lol They say they bought it at your store but can't find the receipt.
People lie all the time.
You can always tell who is losing the argument when they start name-calling. Just sayin’…
Oh, and Snow, as for people lying, the worst are politicians. All of them. Every stinking one of them. All the time. All parties.
(08-13-2021 06:28 PM)ericsrevenge76 Wrote: [ -> ] (08-13-2021 06:10 PM)macgar32 Wrote: [ -> ] (08-13-2021 05:47 PM)ericsrevenge76 Wrote: [ -> ]If you could give hard data showing significant mortality rates in healthy people with natural immunity in any variant you already would have 3 hours ago.
The simple fact is you can't. You spent 3 hours splitting hairs and you still can't.
For healthy people, natural immunity remains strong protection against Covid and its variants. Even without immunity death rates are incredibly low for healthy people under 50, you then add in natural antibodies and the risks are microscopic.
YES, forcing those people to take the vax anyway is nazi like behavior. Or communist behavior, or marxist behavior, take your pick.
So you are Ok with people going to doctor and testing for the antibodies and getting a "passport" saying they don't need a vaccine. Because surely you aren't just going to trust people to tell the truth.
I don't need anyone to prove anything to me. Its up to me to roll with natural immunity or get a vax. I already know I have strong protection.
What other people choose to do is their business. If they want to get the vax, get it, if they want to wear a useless mask then wear it, if they want to go with natural immunity then go for it.
I have the antibodies so it does not concern me.
I am not going to play medical authoritarian commie with the rest of the country when I am already protected.
So you are OK with Tulane saying you have to prove it to attend games.
That is their right.
(08-13-2021 05:47 PM)ericsrevenge76 Wrote: [ -> ] (08-13-2021 05:41 PM)aardWolf Wrote: [ -> ] (08-13-2021 05:30 PM)snowtiger Wrote: [ -> ]I told y'all there is no end to this. Someone just has to stop first.
I’ll bow out and let the Nazi accuser have the last word. I only argue with people like that on the clock anyway, and it’s past dinner time.
If you could give hard data showing significant mortality rates in healthy people with natural immunity in any variant you already would have 3 hours ago.
The simple fact is you can't. You spent 3 hours splitting hairs and you still can't.
For healthy people, natural immunity remains strong protection against Covid and its variants. Even without immunity death rates are incredibly low for healthy people under 50, you then add in natural antibodies and the risks are microscopic.
YES, forcing those people to take the vax anyway is nazi like behavior. Or communist behavior, or marxist behavior, take your pick.
It sounds like capitalist behavior to me.
I can choose to go to businesses that do not require vaccination if I so choose.
(08-13-2021 07:32 PM)macgar32 Wrote: [ -> ] (08-13-2021 06:28 PM)ericsrevenge76 Wrote: [ -> ] (08-13-2021 06:10 PM)macgar32 Wrote: [ -> ] (08-13-2021 05:47 PM)ericsrevenge76 Wrote: [ -> ]If you could give hard data showing significant mortality rates in healthy people with natural immunity in any variant you already would have 3 hours ago.
The simple fact is you can't. You spent 3 hours splitting hairs and you still can't.
For healthy people, natural immunity remains strong protection against Covid and its variants. Even without immunity death rates are incredibly low for healthy people under 50, you then add in natural antibodies and the risks are microscopic.
YES, forcing those people to take the vax anyway is nazi like behavior. Or communist behavior, or marxist behavior, take your pick.
So you are Ok with people going to doctor and testing for the antibodies and getting a "passport" saying they don't need a vaccine. Because surely you aren't just going to trust people to tell the truth.
I don't need anyone to prove anything to me. Its up to me to roll with natural immunity or get a vax. I already know I have strong protection.
What other people choose to do is their business. If they want to get the vax, get it, if they want to wear a useless mask then wear it, if they want to go with natural immunity then go for it.
I have the antibodies so it does not concern me.
I am not going to play medical authoritarian commie with the rest of the country when I am already protected.
So you are OK with Tulane saying you have to prove it to attend games.
That is their right.
I didn't say that at all, but you already knew that.
Anti Vaxers are actual anti fiscal conservatives.
Overwhelming statistics reveal people getting infected and hospitalized have not been vaccinated.
In Feb-Aug 2020 the average hospital cost was $51,389 for 21 to 40 year olds, $78,569 for 41 to 60 year olds. That’s for up to 5 days. 6-10 days increased cost to $89,874 to $155,619 depending on age group. 11-15 days increased cost in age group comparison 4152,388 to $324,285 and stays of over 15 days increased cost range $460,989 to $980,821.
The highest cost age group to treat is the under 20 bracket. Our children. One of the fast growing infection rates and hospitalization is the under 20 bracket. Our children.
Numbers are not yet available for the latest wave but the Delta variant is the predominant strain and the Delta variant has a greater impact on health. Our children are just going back to school so there is little doubt spread will escalate. Some schools/systems are already delaying opening.
Total cost for Covid Hospitalization is estimated at upwards of $17 billion for 2020 for direct patient billing. Estimates for 2021 for 6 months of Delta vary greatly but all exceed the earlier original variant.
Lambda is making its way north from South America.
Some estimates although impossible to verify project 75% or more of hospitalizations were/are avoidable. Masks, sanitation, vaccinations, social distancing all play a part in keeping people safe.
Is the medical cost, the loss of life, the economic cost for business loss, the trauma from something that can easily be mitigated worth less than some sense of freedom loss because the government wants us to help out with prevention? What you call loss of freedom I call an opportunity to serve. A little sacrifice is good for character development.
well the ***** didn't die? right?
(08-13-2021 08:19 PM)Tigerx3 Wrote: [ -> ]Anti Vaxers are actual anti fiscal conservatives.
Who exactly are you calling an anti vaxer?
A larger percentage of unvaxed people are not anti vaxxers. Just as there is a sizable portion of people working in the medical community who are not taking the vaccine, yet they have taken plenty of other vaccines. Nor am I personally anti vax, I have taken vaccines in the past and will take them in the future.
A lot of people are willing to take a vaccine given more time and more testing. They are simply not comfortable with experimental vaccines that are not yet FDA approved and yet have been given special protections from lawsuits.
Not to mention the growing number of people who have natural antibodies now.
Strange times we live in. Vaxxed people are still scared of the virus even after vaccination, and natural antibodies are not longer consider real science. Only the vax is real science, although vaxed people are still scared. Makes all the sense in the world, how could anyone have concerns?
Everybody please listen to Ike
IKE's many sources all agree with Ike, GET THE VACCINE, yes it's your right to refuse but, do it for your neighbors and family.
Ike has been using hand SANITIZER for years and everyone familiar with Ike knows he's not fond of flying however,
When necessary IKE's been masking
up on flights for yrs. Please get VACCINATED FOR TIGERNATION
Awful lotta high horses on both sides of this issue. All they generate is a lotta high horse road apples and nobody convinces anyone else to change their mind.
(08-13-2021 09:00 PM)holyterror Wrote: [ -> ]Awful lotta high horses on both sides of this issue. All they generate is a lotta high horse road apples and nobody convinces anyone else to change their mind.
The point is people should have the right to make up their own mind and make their own decision and not be forced when the science does not even support forced vaccinations.
Just as freedom of speech and thought should not be censored and silenced by big tech and the government. Its unbelievable how much freedom of speech had been infringed by big tech over the last year. The government is clearly using big tech as an end around on the first amendment.
History is littered with democracies that fell under the guise of "we have to do this to protect you". How did so many forget history this fast? 15 years ago no one would believe we would be this far down the authoritarian road in America.
Its stunning how fast this is happening.
S tay
T uned
F or
U pdates
(08-13-2021 09:22 PM)snowtiger Wrote: [ -> ]S tay
T uned
F or
U pdates
At least take the time to formulate a coherent thought. Its not that hard and I will fully support your right to an opinion and voice.
That is what makes America great and strong, not silencing each other.
(08-13-2021 09:28 PM)ericsrevenge76 Wrote: [ -> ] (08-13-2021 09:22 PM)snowtiger Wrote: [ -> ]S tay
T uned
F or
U pdates
At least take the time to formulate a coherent thought. Its not that hard and I will fully support your right to an opinion and voice.
That is what makes America great and strong, not silencing each other.
lol You don't sound very silenced to me.
You live for these kinds of threads.
Most of us don't.
This *********thread is about Larry Brown getting COVID and recovering etc. It’s not about personal agenda and the typical garbage that goes with that.
Keep it that way or take a few days off. Fu*****A
(08-13-2021 08:14 PM)ericsrevenge76 Wrote: [ -> ] (08-13-2021 07:32 PM)macgar32 Wrote: [ -> ] (08-13-2021 06:28 PM)ericsrevenge76 Wrote: [ -> ] (08-13-2021 06:10 PM)macgar32 Wrote: [ -> ] (08-13-2021 05:47 PM)ericsrevenge76 Wrote: [ -> ]If you could give hard data showing significant mortality rates in healthy people with natural immunity in any variant you already would have 3 hours ago.
The simple fact is you can't. You spent 3 hours splitting hairs and you still can't.
For healthy people, natural immunity remains strong protection against Covid and its variants. Even without immunity death rates are incredibly low for healthy people under 50, you then add in natural antibodies and the risks are microscopic.
YES, forcing those people to take the vax anyway is nazi like behavior. Or communist behavior, or marxist behavior, take your pick.
So you are Ok with people going to doctor and testing for the antibodies and getting a "passport" saying they don't need a vaccine. Because surely you aren't just going to trust people to tell the truth.
I don't need anyone to prove anything to me. Its up to me to roll with natural immunity or get a vax. I already know I have strong protection.
What other people choose to do is their business. If they want to get the vax, get it, if they want to wear a useless mask then wear it, if they want to go with natural immunity then go for it.
I have the antibodies so it does not concern me.
I am not going to play medical authoritarian commie with the rest of the country when I am already protected.
So you are OK with Tulane saying you have to prove it to attend games.
That is their right.
I didn't say that at all, but you already knew that.
Why do you have the right to choose not to take the shot...But they don't have the right to say you cant come if you don't.
Both entities should have that choice. Isn't that how it works.
Both entities weigh the Pros and Cons of their choices and make decisions.
(08-13-2021 09:48 PM)snowtiger Wrote: [ -> ] (08-13-2021 09:28 PM)ericsrevenge76 Wrote: [ -> ] (08-13-2021 09:22 PM)snowtiger Wrote: [ -> ]S tay
T uned
F or
U pdates
At least take the time to formulate a coherent thought. Its not that hard and I will fully support your right to an opinion and voice.
That is what makes America great and strong, not silencing each other.
lol You don't sound very silenced to me.
You live for these kinds of threads.
Most of us don't.
Make up your mind already.
I rarely even post in this forum.
No one is forcing you to click on or read my comments.
(08-13-2021 09:50 PM)450bench Wrote: [ -> ]This *********thread is about Larry Brown getting COVID and recovering etc. It’s not about personal agenda and the typical garbage that goes with that.
Keep it that way or take a few days off. Fu*****A
I think it's amazing he got better so fast... He is an inspiration!