shocker that they'd be 3rd world Muslim garbage.
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(04-23-2017 04:45 PM)SuperFlyBCat Wrote: [ -> ]What an awful practice.
Cultural enrichment and diversity... It's apparently our strength..
If y'all ever watched a baby boy get circumcised you'd say the same thing about male circumcision.
(04-23-2017 07:16 PM)dfarr Wrote: [ -> ]If y'all ever watched a baby boy get circumcised you'd say the same thing about male circumcision.
I had a son that was born a couple of months ago. I apologized to him every time I saw him for about a week after that procedure.
(04-23-2017 07:20 PM)ArmyBlazer Wrote: [ -> ] (04-23-2017 07:16 PM)dfarr Wrote: [ -> ]If y'all ever watched a baby boy get circumcised you'd say the same thing about male circumcision.
I had a son that was born a couple of months ago. I apologized to him every time I saw him for about a week after that procedure.
Yeah, completely brutal and medically unnecessary procedure.
(04-23-2017 07:16 PM)dfarr Wrote: [ -> ]If y'all ever watched a baby boy get circumcised you'd say the same thing about male circumcision.
Comparing male circumcision to a clitorectomy is like comparing a bullet on the desk to one coming out of the end of a gun.
A circumcised ***** is 100% functional. A removed clitoris, not so much...
(04-23-2017 07:16 PM)dfarr Wrote: [ -> ]If y'all ever watched a baby boy get circumcised you'd say the same thing about male circumcision.
I held his hand while they did it. Not the same thing as this. Looks as bad but not the same outcome.
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(04-23-2017 07:22 PM)dfarr Wrote: [ -> ] (04-23-2017 07:20 PM)ArmyBlazer Wrote: [ -> ] (04-23-2017 07:16 PM)dfarr Wrote: [ -> ]If y'all ever watched a baby boy get circumcised you'd say the same thing about male circumcision.
I had a son that was born a couple of months ago. I apologized to him every time I saw him for about a week after that procedure.
Yeah, completely brutal and medically unnecessary procedure.
Brutal, sure... unnecessary? debatable.
http://www.webmd.com/parenting/baby/news...th-reasons
According to the CDC "the scientific evidence is clear that the benefits outweigh the risks,"
Quote:Clinical trials, many done in sub-Saharan Africa, have demonstrated that circumcision reduces HIV infection risk by 50 percent to 60 percent, the CDC guidelines note. The procedure also reduces by 30 percent the risk of contracting herpes and human papilloma virus (HPV), two pathogens believed to cause cancer of the *****.
When are the arrests coming for the doctors mutilating transsexuals.
(04-23-2017 04:46 PM)Hood-rich Wrote: [ -> ]shocker that they'd be 3rd world Muslim garbage.
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Well that didn't take long.
(04-24-2017 09:57 AM)Fitbud Wrote: [ -> ] (04-23-2017 04:46 PM)Hood-rich Wrote: [ -> ]shocker that they'd be 3rd world Muslim garbage.
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Well that didn't take long.
Why should it? That's what they are.
(04-24-2017 09:57 AM)Fitbud Wrote: [ -> ] (04-23-2017 04:46 PM)Hood-rich Wrote: [ -> ]shocker that they'd be 3rd world Muslim garbage.
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Well that didn't take long.
The facts don't care about your sensibilities..
(04-23-2017 09:51 PM)Bull_Is_Back Wrote: [ -> ] (04-23-2017 07:22 PM)dfarr Wrote: [ -> ] (04-23-2017 07:20 PM)ArmyBlazer Wrote: [ -> ] (04-23-2017 07:16 PM)dfarr Wrote: [ -> ]If y'all ever watched a baby boy get circumcised you'd say the same thing about male circumcision.
I had a son that was born a couple of months ago. I apologized to him every time I saw him for about a week after that procedure.
Yeah, completely brutal and medically unnecessary procedure.
Brutal, sure... unnecessary? debatable.
http://www.webmd.com/parenting/baby/news...th-reasons
According to the CDC "the scientific evidence is clear that the benefits outweigh the risks,"
Quote:Clinical trials, many done in sub-Saharan Africa, have demonstrated that circumcision reduces HIV infection risk by 50 percent to 60 percent, the CDC guidelines note. The procedure also reduces by 30 percent the risk of contracting herpes and human papilloma virus (HPV), two pathogens believed to cause cancer of the *****.
First, we ain't in sub-Saharan Africa.
Second, pretty sure that HIV and HPV and herpes can be prevented in a multitude of other ways not involving a unnecessary surgery.
I've had a number of adult men complain about numbness after a circ. If you have an elective procedure done to your son based on HIV rates in sub-Saharan Africa then you need to re-evaluate your parental decision making.
(04-24-2017 10:28 PM)dfarr Wrote: [ -> ]First, we ain't in sub-Saharan Africa.
I'm sorry, I totally forgot that the north american ***** is so structurally different from a ***** in sub-Sahara Africa that HIV reacts differently to it.
Quote:Second, pretty sure that HIV and HPV and herpes can be prevented in a multitude of other ways not involving a unnecessary surgery.
Sure, abstinence... Condoms are not entirely effective against HPV or herpes and the vaccines out there only work on a fraction of the strains.
Quote:I've had a number of adult men complain about numbness after a circ
That's Anecdotal evidence... Quick get that to the CDC so they can reverse themselves.
Quote:If you have an elective procedure done to your son based on HIV rates in sub-Saharan Africa then you need to re-evaluate your parental decision making.
* Easier hygiene. Circumcision makes it simpler to wash the *****.
* Decreased risk of urinary tract infections.
* Decreased risk of sexually transmitted infections.
* Prevention of penile problems like phimosis
* Decreased risk of penile cancer.
But yea, literally no justification.
(04-24-2017 10:28 PM)dfarr Wrote: [ -> ]I've had a number of adult men complain about numbness after a circ. If you have an elective procedure done to your son based on HIV rates in sub-Saharan Africa then you need to re-evaluate your parental decision making.
So you (your son) aren't circumcised? It's been pretty much standard procedure for several decades now in the US. I don't care either way but I just wonder why you're so against it. As an adult... hell no, I wouldn't do it.
(04-25-2017 06:12 AM)Hood-rich Wrote: [ -> ] (04-24-2017 10:28 PM)dfarr Wrote: [ -> ]I've had a number of adult men complain about numbness after a circ. If you have an elective procedure done to your son based on HIV rates in sub-Saharan Africa then you need to re-evaluate your parental decision making.
So you (your son) aren't circumcised? It's been pretty much standard procedure for several decades now in the US. I don't care either way but I just wonder why you're so against it. As an adult... hell no, I wouldn't do it.
I'm against it because it's not necessary. Sure, it helps decrease STDs, but so does not putting your dick into nasty skanks. I just don't see how it's necessary to do a procedure on a one day old infant to reduce their possible STD rate. That's like removing their appendix at birth so that they don't get appendicitis.
As for phimosis, balanitis, and penile cancer, those are all prevented by taking a bath. Y'all do realize that I work in urology, so I literally do this for a living, right? To justify a pediatric surgery based on diseases that are prevented (mostly) by bathing just doesn't compute with me.
A good summary against it
No, neither of my sons were circumcised, nor was I or either of my brothers. It's just not medically necessary in infants.