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Who is Gene Marsh?

(02-04-2017 06:57 PM)Memphis Blazer Wrote: [ -> ]Who is Gene Marsh?

Donnie Marsh, fixed it. I get to thinking about Coach Bartow on nights like this. Miss him and those glory days. We have fallen so far.

Oh,
While we had good defenses under Marsh, we did not have the shooters we have now (when they decide to hit shots).

Rebounds....UTSA 38, UAB 23. UTSA had 12 offensive rebounds, UAB had 5.

(02-04-2017 06:16 PM)BlazintheATL Wrote: [ -> ]Someone said it earlier and I absolutely agree; this has been the most disappointing UAB team I can remember. Maybe we've had worse overall seasons but never with a team with as much talent as this one. I'm sure excuses will be made but really there aren't any.

Concerning the season long excuses - I couldn't agree more...

(02-04-2017 09:42 PM)TheGORILLA Wrote: [ -> ]Rebounds....UTSA 38, UAB 23. UTSA had 12 offensive rebounds, UAB had 5.

Cokley had 2 rebounds in 24 minutes of playing time. Lee had 4 rebounds in 21 minutes. Mehinti had 3 rebounds in 21 minutes.

"I thought they killed us on the backboard. A lack of box-outs was very apparent." said Ehsan, in a post game radio show.

My thoughts.....Ehsan did not have his three key rebounders in the game but for 20 minutes each. The only other effective inside rebounder on the team, Madison, played 9 minutes and grabbed 4 rebounds.

Why did Ehsan not have Cokley, Lee, and Mehinti in the game for more minutes? None of them were in foul trouble. How does he expect his team to win the battle of the boards with these three players sitting on the bench watching the guards play. It is no wonder that UTSA's big inside man scored 32 points. Also UTSA scored 32 points in the paint. UTSA also scored 20 points off of UABs 11 turnovers.

Madison also had 4 fouls in 9 minutes. Against UTEP, he had 3 fouls in 6 minutes. Madison plays out of control. He brings energy but he needs to stop fouling.

It's called foul trouble.

(02-05-2017 08:49 AM)TheGORILLA Wrote: [ -> ]

(02-04-2017 09:42 PM)TheGORILLA Wrote: [ -> ]Rebounds....UTSA 38, UAB 23. UTSA had 12 offensive rebounds, UAB had 5.

Cokley had 2 rebounds in 24 minutes of playing time. Lee had 4 rebounds in 21 minutes. Mehinti had 3 rebounds in 21 minutes.

"I thought they killed us on the backboard. A lack of box-outs was very apparent." said Ehsan, in a post game radio show.

My thoughts.....Ehsan did not have his three key rebounders in the game but for 20 minutes each. The only other effective inside rebounder on the team, Madison, played 9 minutes and grabbed 4 rebounds.

Why did Ehsan not have Cokley, Lee, and Mehinti in the game for more minutes? None of them were in foul trouble. How does he expect his team to win the battle of the boards with these three players sitting on the bench watching the guards play. It is no wonder that UTSA's big inside man scored 32 points. Also UTSA scored 32 points in the paint. UTSA also scored 20 points off of UABs 11 turnovers.

UAB hasn't boxed out in years. We play a very low basketball IQ version of the game right now. Probably no way to know for sure but I don't remember another UAB team fouling three point shooters like this one does. If the jumpers are falling, we can look pretty good against CDOA competition. Otherwise our lack of fundamentals and consistent intensity yield results like last night.

lol

(02-05-2017 12:05 PM)ATTALLABLAZE Wrote: [ -> ]lol

Yeah, our defense is pretty comical at times. Fouling a three point shooter in about four consecutive games would be funny if it wasn't my team doing the fouling.

(02-05-2017 11:13 AM)BlazerGreen Wrote: [ -> ]

(02-05-2017 08:49 AM)TheGORILLA Wrote: [ -> ]

(02-04-2017 09:42 PM)TheGORILLA Wrote: [ -> ]Rebounds....UTSA 38, UAB 23. UTSA had 12 offensive rebounds, UAB had 5.

Cokley had 2 rebounds in 24 minutes of playing time. Lee had 4 rebounds in 21 minutes. Mehinti had 3 rebounds in 21 minutes.

"I thought they killed us on the backboard. A lack of box-outs was very apparent." said Ehsan, in a post game radio show.

My thoughts.....Ehsan did not have his three key rebounders in the game but for 20 minutes each. The only other effective inside rebounder on the team, Madison, played 9 minutes and grabbed 4 rebounds.

Why did Ehsan not have Cokley, Lee, and Mehinti in the game for more minutes? None of them were in foul trouble. How does he expect his team to win the battle of the boards with these three players sitting on the bench watching the guards play. It is no wonder that UTSA's big inside man scored 32 points. Also UTSA scored 32 points in the paint. UTSA also scored 20 points off of UABs 11 turnovers.

UAB hasn't boxed out in years. We play a very low basketball IQ version of the game right now. Probably no way to know for sure but I don't remember another UAB team fouling three point shooters like this one does. If the jumpers are falling, we can look pretty good against CDOA competition. Otherwise our lack of fundamentals and consistent intensity yield results like last night.

+1

(02-05-2017 02:10 PM)Big Dee Wrote: [ -> ]

(02-05-2017 11:13 AM)BlazerGreen Wrote: [ -> ]

(02-05-2017 08:49 AM)TheGORILLA Wrote: [ -> ]

(02-04-2017 09:42 PM)TheGORILLA Wrote: [ -> ]Rebounds....UTSA 38, UAB 23. UTSA had 12 offensive rebounds, UAB had 5.

Cokley had 2 rebounds in 24 minutes of playing time. Lee had 4 rebounds in 21 minutes. Mehinti had 3 rebounds in 21 minutes.

"I thought they killed us on the backboard. A lack of box-outs was very apparent." said Ehsan, in a post game radio show.

My thoughts.....Ehsan did not have his three key rebounders in the game but for 20 minutes each. The only other effective inside rebounder on the team, Madison, played 9 minutes and grabbed 4 rebounds.

Why did Ehsan not have Cokley, Lee, and Mehinti in the game for more minutes? None of them were in foul trouble. How does he expect his team to win the battle of the boards with these three players sitting on the bench watching the guards play. It is no wonder that UTSA's big inside man scored 32 points. Also UTSA scored 32 points in the paint. UTSA also scored 20 points off of UABs 11 turnovers.

UAB hasn't boxed out in years. We play a very low basketball IQ version of the game right now. Probably no way to know for sure but I don't remember another UAB team fouling three point shooters like this one does. If the jumpers are falling, we can look pretty good against CDOA competition. Otherwise our lack of fundamentals and consistent intensity yield results like last night.

+1

Reminds me of practices in the early years. Bartow used to spit up the bigs on one end of the court, with Lee Hunt drilling them every day on boxing out. On the other end of the court was Larry Finch working with the guards. Meanwhile, Bartow would shuffle back and forth between the two and generally stood on middle ground during these drills. Also, there were temporary goals set up and players would split up into groups and basically practice "fundamentals", whether it be the George Mikan drill, or the Marques Johnson/John Wooden drop step bank shot layup, or boxing out, etc. Bartow would get his players into the habit of boxing out through repetitive drills every day in practice. I don't think todays team is getting near enough fundamental practice. It is almost like Ehsan is assuming that players should have learned these skills in high school and is concentrating too much on the team practicing offensive play sets instead of basic fundamentals. As for defensive skills, the Bartow's used to emphasize getting back on defense and defensively closing out on defense to contest perimeter shots, without fouling. This, I clearly observed during practices for years, whether it be in Ullman High School gym, the first ten years, and at UAB Arena until Bartow retired. These days, practices are probably closed to the general public. I might add that Bartow rarely, if ever, closed practices to the public.

It's a good thing we're a hockey school not a basketball school

(02-05-2017 03:23 PM)TheGORILLA Wrote: [ -> ]

(02-05-2017 02:10 PM)Big Dee Wrote: [ -> ]

(02-05-2017 11:13 AM)BlazerGreen Wrote: [ -> ]

(02-05-2017 08:49 AM)TheGORILLA Wrote: [ -> ]

(02-04-2017 09:42 PM)TheGORILLA Wrote: [ -> ]Rebounds....UTSA 38, UAB 23. UTSA had 12 offensive rebounds, UAB had 5.

Cokley had 2 rebounds in 24 minutes of playing time. Lee had 4 rebounds in 21 minutes. Mehinti had 3 rebounds in 21 minutes.

"I thought they killed us on the backboard. A lack of box-outs was very apparent." said Ehsan, in a post game radio show.

My thoughts.....Ehsan did not have his three key rebounders in the game but for 20 minutes each. The only other effective inside rebounder on the team, Madison, played 9 minutes and grabbed 4 rebounds.

Why did Ehsan not have Cokley, Lee, and Mehinti in the game for more minutes? None of them were in foul trouble. How does he expect his team to win the battle of the boards with these three players sitting on the bench watching the guards play. It is no wonder that UTSA's big inside man scored 32 points. Also UTSA scored 32 points in the paint. UTSA also scored 20 points off of UABs 11 turnovers.

UAB hasn't boxed out in years. We play a very low basketball IQ version of the game right now. Probably no way to know for sure but I don't remember another UAB team fouling three point shooters like this one does. If the jumpers are falling, we can look pretty good against CDOA competition. Otherwise our lack of fundamentals and consistent intensity yield results like last night.

+1

Reminds me of practices in the early years. Bartow used to spit up the bigs on one end of the court, with Lee Hunt drilling them every day on boxing out. On the other end of the court was Larry Finch working with the guards. Meanwhile, Bartow would shuffle back and forth between the two and generally stood on middle ground during these drills. Also, there were temporary goals set up and players would split up into groups and basically practice "fundamentals", whether it be the George Mikan drill, or the Marques Johnson/John Wooden drop step bank shot layup, or boxing out, etc. Bartow would get his players into the habit of boxing out through repetitive drills every day in practice. I don't think todays team is getting near enough fundamental practice. It is almost like Ehsan is assuming that players should have learned these skills in high school and is concentrating too much on the team practicing offensive play sets instead of basic fundamentals. As for defensive skills, the Bartow's used to emphasize getting back on defense and defensively closing out on defense to contest perimeter shots, without fouling. This, I clearly observed during practices for years, whether it be in Ullman High School gym, the first ten years, and at UAB Arena until Bartow retired. These days, practices are probably closed to the general public. I might add that Bartow rarely, if ever, closed practices to the public.

I really doubt practices are held like this anymore

How did Gene Bartow handle icing situations and coach players to take advantage of power plays. I just don't think today's hockey players are learning the fundamentals. I blame Ehsan.

(02-05-2017 03:47 PM)Big Dee Wrote: [ -> ]

(02-05-2017 03:23 PM)TheGORILLA Wrote: [ -> ]

(02-05-2017 02:10 PM)Big Dee Wrote: [ -> ]

(02-05-2017 11:13 AM)BlazerGreen Wrote: [ -> ]

(02-05-2017 08:49 AM)TheGORILLA Wrote: [ -> ]Cokley had 2 rebounds in 24 minutes of playing time. Lee had 4 rebounds in 21 minutes. Mehinti had 3 rebounds in 21 minutes.

"I thought they killed us on the backboard. A lack of box-outs was very apparent." said Ehsan, in a post game radio show.

My thoughts.....Ehsan did not have his three key rebounders in the game but for 20 minutes each. The only other effective inside rebounder on the team, Madison, played 9 minutes and grabbed 4 rebounds.

Why did Ehsan not have Cokley, Lee, and Mehinti in the game for more minutes? None of them were in foul trouble. How does he expect his team to win the battle of the boards with these three players sitting on the bench watching the guards play. It is no wonder that UTSA's big inside man scored 32 points. Also UTSA scored 32 points in the paint. UTSA also scored 20 points off of UABs 11 turnovers.

UAB hasn't boxed out in years. We play a very low basketball IQ version of the game right now. Probably no way to know for sure but I don't remember another UAB team fouling three point shooters like this one does. If the jumpers are falling, we can look pretty good against CDOA competition. Otherwise our lack of fundamentals and consistent intensity yield results like last night.

+1

Reminds me of practices in the early years. Bartow used to spit up the bigs on one end of the court, with Lee Hunt drilling them every day on boxing out. On the other end of the court was Larry Finch working with the guards. Meanwhile, Bartow would shuffle back and forth between the two and generally stood on middle ground during these drills. Also, there were temporary goals set up and players would split up into groups and basically practice "fundamentals", whether it be the George Mikan drill, or the Marques Johnson/John Wooden drop step bank shot layup, or boxing out, etc. Bartow would get his players into the habit of boxing out through repetitive drills every day in practice. I don't think todays team is getting near enough fundamental practice. It is almost like Ehsan is assuming that players should have learned these skills in high school and is concentrating too much on the team practicing offensive play sets instead of basic fundamentals. As for defensive skills, the Bartow's used to emphasize getting back on defense and defensively closing out on defense to contest perimeter shots, without fouling. This, I clearly observed during practices for years, whether it be in Ullman High School gym, the first ten years, and at UAB Arena until Bartow retired. These days, practices are probably closed to the general public. I might add that Bartow rarely, if ever, closed practices to the public.

I really doubt practices are held like this anymore

Outside of Tom Izzo, Greg Gard and a handful of other old-timers, I suspect you are right.

Practice probably looks like an nba all-star game skills challenge

(02-05-2017 04:46 PM)Big Dee Wrote: [ -> ]Practice probably looks like an nba all-star game skills challenge

Lol!

I'm not too surprised by these losses. This is a very disappointing team so far. Over three years, they've played well in spurts but can never maintain any sort of momentum or carryover game to game/year to year. We play bad defense. We aren't fundamentally sound. We don't seem to play with a lot of passion, outside of maybe two guys. Our best players bring their Best efforts maybe every other game. They get too high on themselves when they're doing well and play down or up to the level of the competition (see all last year for this, especially). There's no leader on the floor. The coach hasn't seemed to make many in-game adjustments (still not gonna throw him under the bus yet, though.) Did I leave anything out??

The positives are that we have a talented group of players, but something is clearly missing with this group. PS - it's not just losing norton. A lot of these issues have been trends over 2.5(+) seasons. Talent can erase a lot of mistakes, which is why I still think we can have a solid chance to win the CUSA tourney. We could also lose the first game in a blowout to a bad team.. we'll see I guess.