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Im pretty excited about being in a conference with Southern again.

Id be more than fine with NIU and Southern as replacement.

This board is starting to remind me of the old Big East board, back in the day. Not saying it's a bad thing, just saying it reminds me of that.

(05-06-2016 04:38 PM)panicstricken Wrote: [ -> ]Im pretty excited about being in a conference with Southern again.

Id be more than fine with NIU and Southern as replacement.

We look forward to being conference mates as well!

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(05-06-2016 01:34 PM)lance99 Wrote: [ -> ]

(05-06-2016 09:20 AM)b0ndsj0ns Wrote: [ -> ]I'm not saying anything about the whole "western wing" strategy. I think we've long since seen there really isn't the money out there to make that worth it. Also the 3 I mentioned would almost assuredly be FB only like Navy. I don't think BYU is reasonable but I mentioned them just for the hell of it. I don't care how bad Army is in football, they could never win a game for all I care, but having the entire value of the Army-Navy game for the league alone makes the league money. CBS currently pays 5 million a year for that game alone and there's talk CBS will probably be willing to pay double that to keep it when that deal expires in 2018. That one game alone will be worth half of our entire current TV deal. If you could get Army and Air Force to join and have control of all the commander in cheif's games that would be huge.

Army, Navy and CBS will NEVER give your Conference the rights to that game and you know it, even if Army joins the AAC(which will never happen). That will always be a standalone game

you realize the AAC is already getting half control of that game in 2018

this is already confirmed

the game will always be stand alone, but the value of navy's half is merging with the aac...navy wants even distribution all around,

your comment is just wrong,
as a matter fact the game has never been a stand alone game, that game is sold as a package with all navy games, which is why navy plays on cbssports aswell

(05-06-2016 05:44 PM)Stay Cool Wrote: [ -> ]

(05-06-2016 04:38 PM)panicstricken Wrote: [ -> ]Im pretty excited about being in a conference with Southern again.

Id be more than fine with NIU and Southern as replacement.

We look forward to being conference mates as well!

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Don't get ahead of yourself just yet...

(05-06-2016 12:36 PM)shere khan Wrote: [ -> ]Sunbelt has some really good regional univs, stadiums, recruiting well, solid fanbases. Like top of the line d1-aa

Cusa is just a clusterfrick of awful unseen terrible bottom barrell D1 football, a program that got killed and plays in a dump. Id take Troy or South Bama over UAB any day. Been to all three. App over charlotte every day. Been to both campuses. I could go on..

Southern Miss and LaTech need to get the frick out while they can

Not me, maybe Memphis is ready to give up on men's basketball but we still care about it at ODU. I'll take UAB any day, football among those three AL is close enough to not matter. UAB was on the right track before their legs got cut out from under them, have a good coach in Clark and are building a new stadium(well Birmingham is). I've not been to any of these stadiums but I've heard USA is in a similar situation with an aging city stadium in not a great neighborhood.

(05-06-2016 06:15 PM)Westhoff123 Wrote: [ -> ]

(05-06-2016 05:44 PM)Stay Cool Wrote: [ -> ]

(05-06-2016 04:38 PM)panicstricken Wrote: [ -> ]Im pretty excited about being in a conference with Southern again.

Id be more than fine with NIU and Southern as replacement.

We look forward to being conference mates as well!

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Don't get ahead of yourself just yet...

That's all i do man haha

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(05-06-2016 09:14 AM)NYCTUFan Wrote: [ -> ]

(05-06-2016 08:38 AM)cmett003 Wrote: [ -> ]

(05-06-2016 08:27 AM)NYCTUFan Wrote: [ -> ]

(05-06-2016 08:08 AM)cmett003 Wrote: [ -> ]What do you guys think of my conference realignment solution?

The American (after Cincinnati leaves to Big 12 (hypothetical)) and C-USA need to re-align, plus App state moves from the sunbelt. To me no power is lost in the either conference just shifted around to make geographical sense. Regional footprints are way to big in the AAC and C-USA, I doubt people in the AAC can go to very many road games. I know some AAC people are going to scoff at this but a guy can dream right?

Proposed Conferences: (12 teams each)

Conference A: Old Dominion, Marshall, East Carolina, WKU, Charlotte, App State, Temple, Navy, UCF, S Florida, FAU, FIU, UConn

Conference B: Tulsa, SMU, Houston, North Texas, Rice, UTSA, La Tech, Tulane, MTSU, UAB, Southern Miss, UTEP, Memphis

With all due respect I think it’s been documented that the programs and markets in the AAC command the highest TV contract revenue of the G5, what business sense would it make (especially if the AAC lost only 1 school) to completely blow up the conference to merge with a group of schools which it’s just been demonstrated doesn’t attract much TV revenue?

I think if the AAC lost only UC, I would think the pecking order should be BYU (if still available), Army, and then Air Force to fill that single spot. If the AAC couldn’t land any of those 3 I think they can cherry pick whichever program from CUSA or MAC they wish to fill the hole and really not miss a beat.

BYU is probably going to the Big12, Army brings little to no value, their name is popular but product is not. Air Force fits pretty good in the mountian west. The funny thing is that the AAC members think that they are all equal when in reality is a few teams that float the whole conference.

I don’t disagree on your assessment at all, BYU would be a good target for the Big 12 but for some reason (maybe religious restrictions) they don’t seem sold on them.

Army brings 2 things to the table. The number 1 media market in the country being located 30 miles from NYC, and the Army Navy game becomes a conference game, and it’s all about money.

AFA same thing, I also believe they are happy in the MWC but the unequal revenue sharing TV deal the conference has and the chance to be in a conference with Navy may be enough to get them to listen, but again it’s a long shot.

On your last part you are correct to some extent. There are a few teams that float the conference from a performance standpoint, UConn basketball, Houston football ect, but the markets are what also make the conference, and because of those markets the potential exposure is tremendous.

Two examples, last year’s SMU’s basketball team was 18-0 and getting a ton of publicity even though they were ineligible for the NCAA tournament, it’s because it’s SMU and they are in Dallas. Last year a 7-0 Temple football team is playing ND and ends up getting college game day, now a big part of that was ND being in the game but also part of that was because Temple is in Philly. Location isn’t the only part of driving this type of exposure, the performance has to be there (don’t forget the AAC did get 4 teams in the NCAA even with an ineligible SMU team left home and at one time last season had Houston, Navy, Memphis and Temple all ranked in the top 25 in football), my point is when the performance is there, because of the major metropolitan areas the schools are located in the conference gets noticed.

No Sunday games

(05-06-2016 06:16 PM)mturn017 Wrote: [ -> ]

(05-06-2016 12:36 PM)shere khan Wrote: [ -> ]Sunbelt has some really good regional univs, stadiums, recruiting well, solid fanbases. Like top of the line d1-aa

Cusa is just a clusterfrick of awful unseen terrible bottom barrell D1 football, a program that got killed and plays in a dump. Id take Troy or South Bama over UAB any day. Been to all three. App over charlotte every day. Been to both campuses. I could go on..

Southern Miss and LaTech need to get the frick out while they can

Not me, maybe Memphis is ready to give up on men's basketball but we still care about it at ODU. I'll take UAB any day, football among those three AL is close enough to not matter. UAB was on the right track before their legs got cut out from under them, have a good coach in Clark and are building a new stadium(well Birmingham is). I've not been to any of these stadiums but I've heard USA is in a similar situation with an aging city stadium in not a great neighborhood.

We just ran Pastner out and hired Tubby Smith at $3M a year. How is that giving up?

(05-06-2016 02:37 PM)Jayesseagle Wrote: [ -> ]

(05-06-2016 07:11 AM)NYCTUFan Wrote: [ -> ]

(05-05-2016 07:08 PM)Jayesseagle Wrote: [ -> ]

(05-05-2016 01:18 PM)NYCTUFan Wrote: [ -> ]Place your bets!

What’s the over under on how many posts before the USM fans are here telling us why they deserve to be in the AAC, telling us about their rich athletic history, and how with just a few AAC bucks their facilities and academics will be on par with the rest of the AAC.

You mean kinda the same as Tulane telling us about their academics and market ???

You can say that, however the difference is that Tulane is already in the conference and their fans are simply boasting about their achievements, USM fans are shamelessly pimping their program and begging for a lifeline.

Yea, you are right...Tulane got in because of New Orleans market...and Temple is in because their market...congrats on that. That's about the only reasons...to bad either of you don't strengthen the conference on the football field..but hey, what's athletics got to do with the strength of a football oriented conference, right ?? That's was proven when Tulane got invited.

This is the biggest case of how much BS these "markets" are. The new orleans "market" goes north all the way to the state line. Once you hit the causeway heading north please find me 5 people who will sit and watch a tulane game on the tube. I will wait.

(05-06-2016 07:32 PM)TripleA Wrote: [ -> ]

(05-06-2016 06:16 PM)mturn017 Wrote: [ -> ]

(05-06-2016 12:36 PM)shere khan Wrote: [ -> ]Sunbelt has some really good regional univs, stadiums, recruiting well, solid fanbases. Like top of the line d1-aa

Cusa is just a clusterfrick of awful unseen terrible bottom barrell D1 football, a program that got killed and plays in a dump. Id take Troy or South Bama over UAB any day. Been to all three. App over charlotte every day. Been to both campuses. I could go on..

Southern Miss and LaTech need to get the frick out while they can

Not me, maybe Memphis is ready to give up on men's basketball but we still care about it at ODU. I'll take UAB any day, football among those three AL is close enough to not matter. UAB was on the right track before their legs got cut out from under them, have a good coach in Clark and are building a new stadium(well Birmingham is). I've not been to any of these stadiums but I've heard USA is in a similar situation with an aging city stadium in not a great neighborhood.

We just ran Pastner out and hired Tubby Smith at $3M a year. How is that giving up?

Ask Shere Kahn, he's the one that'd rather be in a conference with Troy than UAB. And ran out of town? I'd say gifted by the basketball gods that GT took him off your hands unless some of your boosters paid them to take him.

(05-06-2016 08:26 PM)mturn017 Wrote: [ -> ]

(05-06-2016 07:32 PM)TripleA Wrote: [ -> ]

(05-06-2016 06:16 PM)mturn017 Wrote: [ -> ]

(05-06-2016 12:36 PM)shere khan Wrote: [ -> ]Sunbelt has some really good regional univs, stadiums, recruiting well, solid fanbases. Like top of the line d1-aa

Cusa is just a clusterfrick of awful unseen terrible bottom barrell D1 football, a program that got killed and plays in a dump. Id take Troy or South Bama over UAB any day. Been to all three. App over charlotte every day. Been to both campuses. I could go on..

Southern Miss and LaTech need to get the frick out while they can

Not me, maybe Memphis is ready to give up on men's basketball but we still care about it at ODU. I'll take UAB any day, football among those three AL is close enough to not matter. UAB was on the right track before their legs got cut out from under them, have a good coach in Clark and are building a new stadium(well Birmingham is). I've not been to any of these stadiums but I've heard USA is in a similar situation with an aging city stadium in not a great neighborhood.

We just ran Pastner out and hired Tubby Smith at $3M a year. How is that giving up?

Ask Shere Kahn, he's the one that'd rather be in a conference with Troy than UAB. And ran out of town? I'd say gifted by the basketball gods that GT took him off your hands unless some of your boosters paid them to take him.

They did. They paid $1.2M for him to vamoose, rather then him paying us the $500K. And they sorta "encouraged" him to leave, and helped with the references to Ga Tech, lol.

P.S. If you take SK seriously on most topics, I can't help you.

(05-06-2016 08:22 PM)Thegoldstandard Wrote: [ -> ]

(05-06-2016 02:37 PM)Jayesseagle Wrote: [ -> ]

(05-06-2016 07:11 AM)NYCTUFan Wrote: [ -> ]

(05-05-2016 07:08 PM)Jayesseagle Wrote: [ -> ]

(05-05-2016 01:18 PM)NYCTUFan Wrote: [ -> ]Place your bets!

What’s the over under on how many posts before the USM fans are here telling us why they deserve to be in the AAC, telling us about their rich athletic history, and how with just a few AAC bucks their facilities and academics will be on par with the rest of the AAC.

You mean kinda the same as Tulane telling us about their academics and market ???

You can say that, however the difference is that Tulane is already in the conference and their fans are simply boasting about their achievements, USM fans are shamelessly pimping their program and begging for a lifeline.

Yea, you are right...Tulane got in because of New Orleans market...and Temple is in because their market...congrats on that. That's about the only reasons...to bad either of you don't strengthen the conference on the football field..but hey, what's athletics got to do with the strength of a football oriented conference, right ?? That's was proven when Tulane got invited.

This is the biggest case of how much BS these "markets" are. The new orleans "market" goes north all the way to the state line. Once you hit the causeway heading north please find me 5 people who will sit and watch a tulane game on the tube. I will wait.

Hahahaha

if we loose 2 teams we should stay at ten for at least a year

(05-06-2016 08:34 PM)TripleA Wrote: [ -> ]

(05-06-2016 08:26 PM)mturn017 Wrote: [ -> ]

(05-06-2016 07:32 PM)TripleA Wrote: [ -> ]

(05-06-2016 06:16 PM)mturn017 Wrote: [ -> ]

(05-06-2016 12:36 PM)shere khan Wrote: [ -> ]Sunbelt has some really good regional univs, stadiums, recruiting well, solid fanbases. Like top of the line d1-aa

Cusa is just a clusterfrick of awful unseen terrible bottom barrell D1 football, a program that got killed and plays in a dump. Id take Troy or South Bama over UAB any day. Been to all three. App over charlotte every day. Been to both campuses. I could go on..

Southern Miss and LaTech need to get the frick out while they can

Not me, maybe Memphis is ready to give up on men's basketball but we still care about it at ODU. I'll take UAB any day, football among those three AL is close enough to not matter. UAB was on the right track before their legs got cut out from under them, have a good coach in Clark and are building a new stadium(well Birmingham is). I've not been to any of these stadiums but I've heard USA is in a similar situation with an aging city stadium in not a great neighborhood.

We just ran Pastner out and hired Tubby Smith at $3M a year. How is that giving up?

Ask Shere Kahn, he's the one that'd rather be in a conference with Troy than UAB. And ran out of town? I'd say gifted by the basketball gods that GT took him off your hands unless some of your boosters paid them to take him.

They did. They paid $1.2M for him to vamoose, rather then him paying us the $500K. And they sorta "encouraged" him to leave, and helped with the references to Ga Tech, lol.

P.S. If you take SK seriously on most topics, I can't help you.

Well then kudos to you guys finding an "out" to that contract

(05-06-2016 08:22 PM)Thegoldstandard Wrote: [ -> ]

(05-06-2016 02:37 PM)Jayesseagle Wrote: [ -> ]

(05-06-2016 07:11 AM)NYCTUFan Wrote: [ -> ]

(05-05-2016 07:08 PM)Jayesseagle Wrote: [ -> ]

(05-05-2016 01:18 PM)NYCTUFan Wrote: [ -> ]Place your bets!

What’s the over under on how many posts before the USM fans are here telling us why they deserve to be in the AAC, telling us about their rich athletic history, and how with just a few AAC bucks their facilities and academics will be on par with the rest of the AAC.

You mean kinda the same as Tulane telling us about their academics and market ???

You can say that, however the difference is that Tulane is already in the conference and their fans are simply boasting about their achievements, USM fans are shamelessly pimping their program and begging for a lifeline.

Yea, you are right...Tulane got in because of New Orleans market...and Temple is in because their market...congrats on that. That's about the only reasons...to bad either of you don't strengthen the conference on the football field..but hey, what's athletics got to do with the strength of a football oriented conference, right ?? That's was proven when Tulane got invited.

This is the biggest case of how much BS these "markets" are. The new orleans "market" goes north all the way to the state line. Once you hit the causeway heading north please find me 5 people who will sit and watch a tulane game on the tube. I will wait.

Hilarious coming from a USM fan. Hattiesburg is like the 347th biggest market and you don't even own it. It's divided by Alabama, LSU, Ole Miss, and Miss State. That's pathetic, I also know we own more of the MS gulf coast then you do. We had to carry you in the old C-USA, we won't allow that mistake to happen again. Go away and take the NIU guy with you. This board is for real athletic programs.

(05-06-2016 11:08 PM)GreenWave16 Wrote: [ -> ]

(05-06-2016 08:22 PM)Thegoldstandard Wrote: [ -> ]

(05-06-2016 02:37 PM)Jayesseagle Wrote: [ -> ]

(05-06-2016 07:11 AM)NYCTUFan Wrote: [ -> ]

(05-05-2016 07:08 PM)Jayesseagle Wrote: [ -> ]You mean kinda the same as Tulane telling us about their academics and market ???

You can say that, however the difference is that Tulane is already in the conference and their fans are simply boasting about their achievements, USM fans are shamelessly pimping their program and begging for a lifeline.

Yea, you are right...Tulane got in because of New Orleans market...and Temple is in because their market...congrats on that. That's about the only reasons...to bad either of you don't strengthen the conference on the football field..but hey, what's athletics got to do with the strength of a football oriented conference, right ?? That's was proven when Tulane got invited.

This is the biggest case of how much BS these "markets" are. The new orleans "market" goes north all the way to the state line. Once you hit the causeway heading north please find me 5 people who will sit and watch a tulane game on the tube. I will wait.

Hilarious coming from a USM fan. Hattiesburg is like the 347th biggest market and you don't even own it. It's divided by Alabama, LSU, Ole Miss, and Miss State. That's pathetic, I also know we own more of the MS gulf coast then you do. We had to carry you in the old C-USA, we won't allow that mistake to happen again. Go away and take the NIU guy with you. This board is for real athletic programs.

Hey i didn't do nothin here, don't bring me into this

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(05-06-2016 11:08 PM)GreenWave16 Wrote: [ -> ]

(05-06-2016 08:22 PM)Thegoldstandard Wrote: [ -> ]

(05-06-2016 02:37 PM)Jayesseagle Wrote: [ -> ]

(05-06-2016 07:11 AM)NYCTUFan Wrote: [ -> ]

(05-05-2016 07:08 PM)Jayesseagle Wrote: [ -> ]You mean kinda the same as Tulane telling us about their academics and market ???

You can say that, however the difference is that Tulane is already in the conference and their fans are simply boasting about their achievements, USM fans are shamelessly pimping their program and begging for a lifeline.

Yea, you are right...Tulane got in because of New Orleans market...and Temple is in because their market...congrats on that. That's about the only reasons...to bad either of you don't strengthen the conference on the football field..but hey, what's athletics got to do with the strength of a football oriented conference, right ?? That's was proven when Tulane got invited.

This is the biggest case of how much BS these "markets" are. The new orleans "market" goes north all the way to the state line. Once you hit the causeway heading north please find me 5 people who will sit and watch a tulane game on the tube. I will wait.

Hilarious coming from a USM fan. Hattiesburg is like the 347th biggest market and you don't even own it. It's divided by Alabama, LSU, Ole Miss, and Miss State. That's pathetic, I also know we own more of the MS gulf coast then you do. We had to carry you in the old C-USA, we won't allow that mistake to happen again. Go away and take the NIU guy with you. This board is for real athletic programs.

Wait, you had to carry us in the Old CUSA ?? Would you care to explain your theory, 16 ?? Please enlighten all of us USM fans...

And also, Tulane does not own most of the Gulf Coast than we do..that's a completely absurb statement from your ignorant rant raving mouth. Tulane does not own anything..no fanbase, no excitement anywhere in New Orleans, especially the Ms Gulf Coast area about the Mighty Green Wave..you stupid idiot! Whoo hoo...lets get ready for some Tulane football echoed by people from Mobile throughout New Orleans to Baton Rouge area, yea right....keep that fantasy up there 16!

(05-06-2016 11:08 PM)GreenWave16 Wrote: [ -> ]

(05-06-2016 08:22 PM)Thegoldstandard Wrote: [ -> ]

(05-06-2016 02:37 PM)Jayesseagle Wrote: [ -> ]

(05-06-2016 07:11 AM)NYCTUFan Wrote: [ -> ]

(05-05-2016 07:08 PM)Jayesseagle Wrote: [ -> ]You mean kinda the same as Tulane telling us about their academics and market ???

You can say that, however the difference is that Tulane is already in the conference and their fans are simply boasting about their achievements, USM fans are shamelessly pimping their program and begging for a lifeline.

Yea, you are right...Tulane got in because of New Orleans market...and Temple is in because their market...congrats on that. That's about the only reasons...to bad either of you don't strengthen the conference on the football field..but hey, what's athletics got to do with the strength of a football oriented conference, right ?? That's was proven when Tulane got invited.

This is the biggest case of how much BS these "markets" are. The new orleans "market" goes north all the way to the state line. Once you hit the causeway heading north please find me 5 people who will sit and watch a tulane game on the tube. I will wait.

Hilarious coming from a USM fan. Hattiesburg is like the 347th biggest market and you don't even own it. It's divided by Alabama, LSU, Ole Miss, and Miss State. That's pathetic, I also know we own more of the MS gulf coast then you do. We had to carry you in the old C-USA, we won't allow that mistake to happen again. Go away and take the NIU guy with you. This board is for real athletic programs.

Last I checked, you didn't carry anybody in Conference USA. You were mostly a bottom feeder. Southern Miss carried YOU, not the other way around.

(05-06-2016 08:54 PM)mturn017 Wrote: [ -> ]

(05-06-2016 08:34 PM)TripleA Wrote: [ -> ]

(05-06-2016 08:26 PM)mturn017 Wrote: [ -> ]

(05-06-2016 07:32 PM)TripleA Wrote: [ -> ]

(05-06-2016 06:16 PM)mturn017 Wrote: [ -> ]Not me, maybe Memphis is ready to give up on men's basketball but we still care about it at ODU. I'll take UAB any day, football among those three AL is close enough to not matter. UAB was on the right track before their legs got cut out from under them, have a good coach in Clark and are building a new stadium(well Birmingham is). I've not been to any of these stadiums but I've heard USA is in a similar situation with an aging city stadium in not a great neighborhood.

We just ran Pastner out and hired Tubby Smith at $3M a year. How is that giving up?

Ask Shere Kahn, he's the one that'd rather be in a conference with Troy than UAB. And ran out of town? I'd say gifted by the basketball gods that GT took him off your hands unless some of your boosters paid them to take him.

They did. They paid $1.2M for him to vamoose, rather then him paying us the $500K. And they sorta "encouraged" him to leave, and helped with the references to Ga Tech, lol.

P.S. If you take SK seriously on most topics, I can't help you.

Well then kudos to you guys finding an "out" to that contract

We did, but you'e right that we also got lucky. We still needed Ga Tech to cooperate.