(08-14-2014 02:53 PM)mlb Wrote: [ -> ]I give up.
You guys know everything about international business so you should take over your own multinational and show everyone how all you need is American white males to tell the world what it should like.
We just know how to recognize racism ..veiled as affirmative action.
(08-14-2014 01:08 PM)Smaug Wrote: [ -> ]So, Coke, Apple, the NFL...
Who am I missing in the cabal?
(08-14-2014 02:50 PM)oklalittledixie Wrote: [ -> ]1. Not if that person isn't qualified to design the product.
No sh#t Sherlock. The point of the matter is that they are heavy with American white males. That is their point... they would like to have a more diversified workforce of qualified candidates from all walks of life. They don't have that now hence they can't hire people whom are not able to do the job.
Quote:2. Your second paragraph only states the obvious. How are they going to do that when the pool of eligibles consists of a bunch of white guys?
They are only going to hire those people because it is their only option. As happens now. And they are concerned that they could have better market share if they had more qualified candidates from those other segments... hence they'd like to see more people from those segments become qualified applicants.
Quote:3. Why does it matter what color the person is? Shouldn't the position be filled by the most qualified person?
Sigh... obviously it goes to the most qualified candidate otherwise Apple wouldn't be 70% white male.
Quote:This is why liberalism is a flawed ideology and destroys societies.
This is why your ignorance is unbecoming. You have not actually tried to understand anything that has been posted here today. You just want to shove your idealistic views down everyone's throat and tell them that is how it is going to be. Sorry, this is America. Doesn't happen. The market dictates who wins and who loses, so you better have what the market wants.
For 2 people who claim to be conservatives who love America, Okla and ER certainly ***** about capitalism and the free market.
Nobody is imposing anything on Apple, Apple is the largest company in the world and they are putting a PR blitz, on their own accord, saying they'd like to diversify their workforce. A white male is the head of the company and that is what he has said he'd like to do.
This isn't an attack on the white male. This is a statement that long term they'd like to be more diversified... kind of like what my financial adviser tells me every time I meet him. "Don't go heavy in 1 industry, diversify."
I am guessing Apple is very diverse already. Almost all high tech companies are; Unless one defines Asians as white.
And I suggest everyone ditch Windows 8 for Linux Mint. You will thank me.
(08-14-2014 03:07 PM)Clueless Economist Wrote: [ -> ]I am guessing Apple is very diverse already. Almost all high tech companies are; Unless one defines Asians as white.
And I suggest everyone ditch Windows 8 for Linux Mint. You will thank me.
The original article stated that they are 70% white male. Very few high tech companies are diverse, which is the point of the article. It quotes figures from many others.
(08-14-2014 03:07 PM)Clueless Economist Wrote: [ -> ]I am guessing Apple is very diverse already. Almost all high tech companies are; Unless one defines Asians as white.
And I suggest everyone ditch Windows 8 for Linux Mint. You will thank me.
Liberals do think of orientals as whites.
(08-14-2014 01:51 PM)blunderbuss Wrote: [ -> ]I have this question for okla. What major company today doesn't have some sort of diversity policy?
Still waiting.......
What's there to understand MLB?
"We are mad that we have too many white guys working here. We know that is not because we consciously hire only white people, but we can't come out and say that minorities don't apply for our high level positions, so we'll make ourselves look good by acting like we are upset over our lack of diversity. The white left will love us even more"
MOST of the big tech companies have a distinct LACK of diversity - IF we define diversity as skin color alone, as most libs I know do. Been well documented.
Has to do with what fields minorities are going into when they do pursue higher education.
I couldn't believe that we were led into another of the lame Apple vs PC wars again. That is so last decade.
I cut my teeth on Apple products. I've used PCs as well. To each his own - whatever you are comfortable with.
Newsflash for Okie - most of the big tech companies lean left, as well but I'm sure you know this. I only despise one of them. Google. Any company that has to have a slogan that says, even jokingly, "Don't be evil" probably is. We know of their close co-operation with the NSA and that is about all I need to confirm what I had suspected.
(08-14-2014 08:17 PM)MileHighBronco Wrote: [ -> ]MOST of the big tech companies have a distinct LACK of diversity - IF we define diversity as skin color alone, as most libs I know do. Been well documented.
Has to do with what fields minorities are going into when they do pursue higher education.
I couldn't believe that we were led into another of the lame Apple vs PC wars again. That is so last decade.
I cut my teeth on Apple products. I've used PCs as well. To each his own - whatever you are comfortable with.
Newsflash for Okie - most of the big tech companies lean left, as well but I'm sure you know this. I only despise one of them. Google. Any company that has to have a slogan that says, even jokingly, "Don't be evil" probably is. We know of their close co-operation with the NSA and that is about all I need to confirm what I had suspected.
Newsflash for me? Where did I say they didn't? I pointed out the CEO is a flaming liberal. You'd have to be to believe that nonsense.
(08-14-2014 09:07 PM)oklalittledixie Wrote: [ -> ] (08-14-2014 08:17 PM)MileHighBronco Wrote: [ -> ]MOST of the big tech companies have a distinct LACK of diversity - IF we define diversity as skin color alone, as most libs I know do. Been well documented.
Has to do with what fields minorities are going into when they do pursue higher education.
I couldn't believe that we were led into another of the lame Apple vs PC wars again. That is so last decade.
I cut my teeth on Apple products. I've used PCs as well. To each his own - whatever you are comfortable with.
Newsflash for Okie - most of the big tech companies lean left, as well but I'm sure you know this. I only despise one of them. Google. Any company that has to have a slogan that says, even jokingly, "Don't be evil" probably is. We know of their close co-operation with the NSA and that is about all I need to confirm what I had suspected.
Newsflash for me? Where did I say they didn't? I pointed out the CEO is a flaming liberal. You'd have to be to believe that nonsense.
or...maybe the CEO is just a damn good businessman that is responding to market signals from his customers? He could be a flaming socialist for all I know...I have no idea what his gang preference is. What I do know is he is the head of one of the most successful and powerful companies in America and he has a duty to his stockholders to respond to market signals and keep it successful. If that means hiring some folks beside Whitey? He will bust his ass to do it....or he will not be the CEO going forward.
(08-14-2014 09:47 PM)Fo Shizzle Wrote: [ -> ]or...maybe the CEO is just a damn good businessman that is responding to market signals from his customers? He could be a flaming socialist for all I know...I have no idea what his gang preference is. What I do know is he is the head of one of the most successful and powerful companies in America and he has a duty to his stockholders to respond to market signals and keep it successful. If that means hiring some folks beside Whitey? He will bust his ass to do it....or he will not be the CEO going forward.
QFT.
Apple's CEO is the son of a stevedore from the Mobile area. He's an Auburn graduate too. He is reportedly Gay. While I'm not a fan of Apple products or their pricing, Tim Cook's story is quite inspirational. He's a product of the exurban South and a public institution in Alabama. His family didn't come from money. If someone can go from Robertsdale High School and Auburn to running the most valuable company on Planet Earth (which Apple is), then that is something to celebrate.
Apple has been a leader in equality for decades. Most successful technology companies are. Its hard to be in the business of new ideas when your business culture clings to old and outdated ones.
There's a reason why California generates a lot of innovation. They accept immigration, they accept people who are different. Different people bring different ideas. And that is usually a good thing.
(08-15-2014 10:02 AM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote: [ -> ]Apple's CEO is the son of a stevedore from the Mobile area. He's an Auburn graduate too. He is reportedly Gay. While I'm not a fan of Apple products or their pricing, Tim Cook's story is quite inspirational.
Apple has been a leader in equality for decades. Most technology companies are. Its hard to be in the business of new ideas when your business culture clings to old and outdated ones.
Apple is 70% white male. Read the article. It isn't their fault, every tech company out there is overwhelmingly white males due to the lack of talent from other backgrounds.
(08-15-2014 10:06 AM)mlb Wrote: [ -> ] (08-15-2014 10:02 AM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote: [ -> ]Apple's CEO is the son of a stevedore from the Mobile area. He's an Auburn graduate too. He is reportedly Gay. While I'm not a fan of Apple products or their pricing, Tim Cook's story is quite inspirational.
Apple has been a leader in equality for decades. Most technology companies are. Its hard to be in the business of new ideas when your business culture clings to old and outdated ones.
Apple is 70% white male. Read the article. It isn't their fault, every tech company out there is overwhelmingly white males due to the lack of talent from other backgrounds.
30% persons of color/females at a major corporation sounds pretty diverse to me. Please remember that the likely feeder degrees that Apple is looking for skew heavily male
There is nothing anyone can say that justifies this. It simply means we want less white people working for our company and that is racism. There is no valid argument against that.
Jobs should be filled on merit, not skin color. Any benefit given based on someone's race is racism...and it's wrong. Period.
The problem is not with Apple, and this CEO should have the balls to admit that. The problem is in the minority community.
If you found out that most workers there are Libs or gay I'll bet you'd be changing your tune. Just because a person is white does not guarantee that the person is smarter than someone who isn't. When I worked I found that out, many times.
(08-15-2014 01:14 PM)olliebaba Wrote: [ -> ]If you found out that most workers there are Libs or gay I'll bet you'd be changing your tune. Just because a person is white does not guarantee that the person is smarter than someone who isn't. When I worked I found that out, many times.
So you are suggesting that Apple actively passes over equally qualified minorities? Or you agree that it's a matter of there being more whites who are qualified for these jobs?