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<a href='http://www.collegefootballnews.com/2004/Preview/Ask_CFN_PreviewEdition.htm' target='_blank'>CFN at it again</a>

They are calling you this year's TCU. Stellar record while not facing any real challenge on the schedule. Any opinions? Of course, this is half way flame bait. But I thought I'd let you know, that there's a buzz in the air about you.
Quote:Of course, this is half way flame bait.


Only halfway? :rolleyes:
knight_01 Wrote:<a href='http://www.collegefootballnews.com/2004/Preview/Ask_CFN_PreviewEdition.htm' target='_blank'>CFN at it again</a>

They are calling you this year's TCU.&nbsp; Stellar record while not facing any real challenge on the schedule.&nbsp; Any opinions?&nbsp; Of course, this is half way flame bait.&nbsp; But I thought I'd let you know, that there's a buzz in the air about you.

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Do we have to do this again? :crying:
This is old news as that has been on their site for almost 2 weeks.

That is definitely locker room incentive for our boys though, so we'll take it.


But like I said somewhere else, CFN is way too inconsistent. One time they say we are the Miami of the MAC this year. Then they ranked us in their 117 team ranking back in the 60's somewhere with 3 MAC teams ahead of us. Then they say we will win the West Division but lose to Marshall in the MACC. Now, in their 117 team ranking they had Marshall ranked behind us. Now they say we are over-rated.

They change their mind more than a pregnant woman.
Minnesota,Kansas, and a tough MAC road schedule will be a good indicator of how good the Rockets really are. Maryland found out what it's like to play on the road in the MAC.
rocketfootball Wrote:They change their mind more than a pregnant woman.
I'll second that, and that's a lot of mind changing! 04-bow
Boca Rocket Wrote:Minnesota,Kansas, and a tough MAC road schedule will be a good indicator of how good the Rockets really are. Maryland found out what it's like to play on the road in the MAC.
I'll give you Minnesota I guess, but Kansas? C'mon...
The Knight Time Wrote:
Boca Rocket Wrote:Minnesota,Kansas, and a tough MAC road schedule will be a good indicator of how good the Rockets really are. Maryland found out what it's like to play on the road in the MAC.
I'll give you Minnesota I guess, but Kansas? C'mon...
Kansas probably won't be as good this year, but they were in a bowl game last year so I wouldn't knock them to much. They are a lot like Missouri in the Big 12. Getting better but not as good as the top teams in the conference.

But just to show you that they are pretty decent, here are some scores from last year:

Kansas 35
Missouri 14

Kansas 36
Iowa St 7

Kansas 46
UNLV 24 (UNLV did beat Wisconsin and Toledo despite several losses)

They were only 3-5 in the Big 12.
rocketfootball Wrote:
The Knight Time Wrote:
Boca Rocket Wrote:Minnesota,Kansas, and a tough MAC road schedule will be a good indicator of how good the Rockets really are. Maryland found out what it's like to play on the road in the MAC.
I'll give you Minnesota I guess, but Kansas? C'mon...
Kansas probably won't be as good this year, but they were in a bowl game last year so I wouldn't knock them to much. They are a lot like Missouri in the Big 12. Getting better but not as good as the top teams in the conference.

But just to show you that they are pretty decent, here are some scores from last year:

Kansas 35
Missouri 14

Kansas 36
Iowa St 7

Kansas 46
UNLV 24 (UNLV did beat Wisconsin and Toledo despite several losses)

They were only 3-5 in the Big 12.
I watched Kansas play NC State in the Tangerine Bowl. They were downright pathetic.

I believe their team was "experienced" last year too, so I'd expect them to be sub .500 easilly next year.
Agreed, KT, but the most pathetic bowl team of all had to be Southern Miss..........man, that game was painful to watch with all the bad quarterbacking and all.
ex Cincy Kid Wrote:Agreed, KT, but the most pathetic bowl team of all had to be Southern Miss..........man, that game was painful to watch with all the bad quarterbacking and all.
I'm guessing this is a backhanded joke about CUSA.

USM is a good team who had a bad game vs. a good team. It happens.
The Knight Time Wrote:
ex Cincy Kid Wrote:Agreed, KT, but the most pathetic bowl team of all had to be Southern Miss..........man, that game was painful to watch with all the bad quarterbacking and all.
I'm guessing this is a backhanded joke about CUSA.

USM is a good team who had a bad game vs. a good team. It happens.
Isn't that what happened to Kansas? I mean they went into the bowl game averaging 29.3 ppg and giving up 28.3 ppg. They scored close to their average in 26 points, but gave up a season high 52 points to NC State. And it's not like they didn't play good competition with being in the Big 12.
8/30 Northwestern L 28-20
9/6 UNLV W 46-24
9/13 at Wyoming W 42-35
9/20 at J'ville St W 41-6
9/27 Missouri W 35-14
10/11 at Colorado L 50-47 OT
10/18 Baylor W 28-21
10/25 at Kansas St L 42-6
11/1 at Texas A&M L 45-33
11/8 Nebraska L 24-3
11/15 at Oklahoma St L 44-21
11/22 Iowa State W 36-7

The only team they beat with a winning record was Missouri, at 8-5.

Their losses weren't even really close. I don't consider them a good team. They're a bad team in a conference that has too many bowl ties.

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The Knight Time Wrote:I don't consider them a good team.&nbsp; They're a bad team in a conference that has too many bowl ties.
It doesn't matter what you consider them. They are a Big 12 team that has the potential to be a landmine for the Rockets in a road game. No, they aren't going to play for the MNC, but they aren't a team that any MAC (or C-USA) team could face on the road and take lightly.
The Big 12 does have too many bowl tie-ins, most BCS conferences do. But you said their losses weren't close and again you looked at a couple of games and that is it.

They lost by 3 in overtime at Colorado. They lost by 12 at Texas A&M. They lost by 8 against Northwestern. Want a quality win? A 35-14 victory over a good Missouri team.

I am not saying Kansas was great or even real good, but they were decent. No one knows how good they will be this year though, so this is really a weird conversation.
rocketfootball Wrote:The Big 12 does have too many bowl tie-ins, most BCS conferences do. But you said their losses weren't close and again you looked at a couple of games and that is it.

They lost by 3 in overtime at Colorado. They lost by 12 at Texas A&M. They lost by 8 against Northwestern. Want a quality win? A 35-14 victory over a good Missouri team.

I am not saying Kansas was great or even real good, but they were decent. No one knows how good they will be this year though, so this is really a weird conversation.
I do think BCS conferences get too many bowl ties. I'm sure the Tangerine Bowl will agree too.

The consistent flow of 8th place Big 12 teams, with no fan support, is really killing the bowl financially.

I've heard many times that they're considering dropping that tie, and possibly picking up another. CUSA maybe?
The Knight Time Wrote:
rocketfootball Wrote:The Big 12 does have too many bowl tie-ins, most BCS conferences do.&nbsp; But you said their losses weren't close and again you looked at a couple of games and that is it.

They lost by 3 in overtime at Colorado.&nbsp; They lost by 12 at Texas A&M.&nbsp; They lost by 8 against Northwestern.&nbsp; Want a quality win?&nbsp; A 35-14 victory over a good Missouri team.

I am not saying Kansas was great or even real good, but they were decent.&nbsp; No one knows how good they will be this year though, so this is really a weird conversation.
I do think BCS conferences get too many bowl ties. I'm sure the Tangerine Bowl will agree too.

The consistent flow of 8th place Big 12 teams, with no fan support, is really killing the bowl financially.

I've heard many times that they're considering dropping that tie, and possibly picking up another. CUSA maybe?
Nothing against C-USA, but don't they already have 5 tie-ins? Do they really need a 6th, and will they really have 6 bowl elgible teams every year? Don't put C-USA in that same breath as the BCS conferences that have 1 or 2 too many bowl tie-ins.
rocketfootball Wrote:
The Knight Time Wrote:
rocketfootball Wrote:The Big 12 does have too many bowl tie-ins, most BCS conferences do.  But you said their losses weren't close and again you looked at a couple of games and that is it.

They lost by 3 in overtime at Colorado.  They lost by 12 at Texas A&M.  They lost by 8 against Northwestern.  Want a quality win?  A 35-14 victory over a good Missouri team.

I am not saying Kansas was great or even real good, but they were decent.  No one knows how good they will be this year though, so this is really a weird conversation.
I do think BCS conferences get too many bowl ties. I'm sure the Tangerine Bowl will agree too.

The consistent flow of 8th place Big 12 teams, with no fan support, is really killing the bowl financially.

I've heard many times that they're considering dropping that tie, and possibly picking up another. CUSA maybe?
Nothing against C-USA, but don't they already have 5 tie-ins? Do they really need a 6th, and will they really have 6 bowl elgible teams every year? Don't put C-USA in that same breath as the BCS conferences that have 1 or 2 too many bowl tie-ins.
I think we're losing the Ft. Worth Bowl, since TCU is darting. I also know that CUSA is fed up with the Hawaii bowl, and have another bowl tie in in the process.
The Knight Time Wrote:
Boca Rocket Wrote:Minnesota,Kansas, and a tough MAC road schedule will be a good indicator of how good the Rockets really are. Maryland found out what it's like to play on the road in the MAC.
I'll give you Minnesota I guess, but Kansas? C'mon...
Still a Big 12 road game.It's not were playing 1-AA at home.It was a replacement game for Florida A&M.So it is an upgrade on the Rocket's schedule.We're not trying to duck other teams. They are avoiding us.We are willing to go play top teams at their places.Talk about a stacked deck.The Rockets aren't an automatic in the win column for the oppostion especially the way they stretch the field.Bruce G. is a better QB than Brock Berlin(Hurricanes'03).That is the level of talent the Rockets can put on the field.
Boca Rocket Wrote:Bruce G. is a better QB than Brock Berlin(Hurricanes'03).That is the level of talent the Rockets can put on the field.
You had me until this. There is no way you can accurately compare these two and say your guy is better. If Bruce played against the speed that the defenses from Florida, Florida State and Va Tech, just to name a few, put on the field, I suspect his numbers wouldn't look so gaudy.
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