Colorado hangs on to beat Washington State 58-52 and reach the Pac-12 championship game against Oregon. It was their 8th consecutive win.

(03-15-2024 11:54 PM)stever20 Wrote:  

(03-15-2024 11:52 PM)esayem Wrote:  

(03-15-2024 11:30 PM)stever20 Wrote:  

(03-15-2024 11:21 PM)esayem Wrote:  

(03-15-2024 11:09 PM)stever20 Wrote:  Texas A&M has the #23 SOS in the country, and #21 OOC. Some weak ass schedule. Meanwhile Pittsburgh is at 83 and 344. Now 344 is weak ass for sure.

Stever, aTm lost FIVE Q3 games. I don't care how many good teams they lost to, they lost to a bunch of stink buckets!

and Pittsburgh scheduled Cupcake State OOC and they're going to get ****** by it. 10 of their 11 OOC games were Q3 or Q4. That sucks. The committee often times makes statements with garbage **** like that.

Stever, they won their games. They went 12-8 in a Power conference. Their NET is ~40.

Your boys at Seton Hall are in the 60’s. You LOVE the NET. You LOVE it! Who cares if you lose to good teams, Stever. You need to win games. I’m surprised your boy Lunardi doesn’t have St. Joe’s in lol

They scheduled like **** OOC. And the ACC is garbage this year. All it spells is NIT.

And you say 12-8 in a power conference. Well Seton Hall went 13-7 in a power conference. So therefore they must be better according to your ******* "logic".

Stever Stever Stever. Are you a Seton Hall fan? Will you admit your fandom for all to see? Or are you still being a coward?

Can you explain why Seton Hall’s NET is pathetic and they were waxed by the Johnnies in a must-win game? Why is their NET 20+ spots behind Pitt? Don’t forget, you LOVE the NET.

(03-15-2024 11:59 PM)stever20 Wrote:  saw someone mention that this year is one of the stronger bubbles. Normally a lot of these resumes are in pretty easily. Not this year.

Yeah, this is the strongest bubble in a long time. Some teams who would get in 8 of 10 years are going to be left out.

Too bad the NCAA Tournament isn't 72 this year.

(03-16-2024 12:00 AM)esayem Wrote:  

(03-15-2024 11:54 PM)stever20 Wrote:  

(03-15-2024 11:52 PM)esayem Wrote:  

(03-15-2024 11:30 PM)stever20 Wrote:  

(03-15-2024 11:21 PM)esayem Wrote:  Stever, aTm lost FIVE Q3 games. I don't care how many good teams they lost to, they lost to a bunch of stink buckets!

and Pittsburgh scheduled Cupcake State OOC and they're going to get ****** by it. 10 of their 11 OOC games were Q3 or Q4. That sucks. The committee often times makes statements with garbage **** like that.

Stever, they won their games. They went 12-8 in a Power conference. Their NET is ~40.

Your boys at Seton Hall are in the 60’s. You LOVE the NET. You LOVE it! Who cares if you lose to good teams, Stever. You need to win games. I’m surprised your boy Lunardi doesn’t have St. Joe’s in lol

They scheduled like **** OOC. And the ACC is garbage this year. All it spells is NIT.

And you say 12-8 in a power conference. Well Seton Hall went 13-7 in a power conference. So therefore they must be better according to your ******* "logic".

Stever Stever Stever. Are you a Seton Hall fan? Will you admit your fandom for all to see? Or are you still being a coward?

Can you explain why Seton Hall’s NET is pathetic and they were waxed by the Johnnies in a must-win game? Why is their NET 20+ spots behind Pitt? Don’t forget, you LOVE the NET.

The NET isn't everything at all. Pitt just doesn't have the wins against tourney teams. Exactly 1 win against a definite tourney team in Duke (plus 1 vs Virginia). Seton Hall on the other hand at least has 2, plus 2 against St John's.

Frankly I think both ultimately miss the tourney.

(03-16-2024 12:03 AM)stever20 Wrote:  

(03-16-2024 12:00 AM)esayem Wrote:  

(03-15-2024 11:54 PM)stever20 Wrote:  

(03-15-2024 11:52 PM)esayem Wrote:  

(03-15-2024 11:30 PM)stever20 Wrote:  and Pittsburgh scheduled Cupcake State OOC and they're going to get ****** by it. 10 of their 11 OOC games were Q3 or Q4. That sucks. The committee often times makes statements with garbage **** like that.

Stever, they won their games. They went 12-8 in a Power conference. Their NET is ~40.

Your boys at Seton Hall are in the 60’s. You LOVE the NET. You LOVE it! Who cares if you lose to good teams, Stever. You need to win games. I’m surprised your boy Lunardi doesn’t have St. Joe’s in lol

They scheduled like **** OOC. And the ACC is garbage this year. All it spells is NIT.

And you say 12-8 in a power conference. Well Seton Hall went 13-7 in a power conference. So therefore they must be better according to your ******* "logic".

Stever Stever Stever. Are you a Seton Hall fan? Will you admit your fandom for all to see? Or are you still being a coward?

Can you explain why Seton Hall’s NET is pathetic and they were waxed by the Johnnies in a must-win game? Why is their NET 20+ spots behind Pitt? Don’t forget, you LOVE the NET.

The NET isn't everything at all. Pitt just doesn't have the wins against tourney teams. Exactly 1 win against a definite tourney team in Duke (plus 1 vs Virginia). Seton Hall on the other hand at least has 2, plus 2 against St John's.

Frankly I think both ultimately miss the tourney.

I’m old school. I want to see teams playing like tournament teams in their do or die tournaments. Pitt 100% did that, as much as I hate to admit because I don’t particularly like them. They will win a game or two right now.

Meanwhile Seton Hall s’d the bed in a game they knew was important. Their resume doesn’t excuse them from that.

If aTm makes it, look out for the upset! They’re prone to it!

(03-16-2024 12:17 AM)esayem Wrote:  

(03-16-2024 12:03 AM)stever20 Wrote:  

(03-16-2024 12:00 AM)esayem Wrote:  

(03-15-2024 11:54 PM)stever20 Wrote:  

(03-15-2024 11:52 PM)esayem Wrote:  Stever, they won their games. They went 12-8 in a Power conference. Their NET is ~40.

Your boys at Seton Hall are in the 60’s. You LOVE the NET. You LOVE it! Who cares if you lose to good teams, Stever. You need to win games. I’m surprised your boy Lunardi doesn’t have St. Joe’s in lol

They scheduled like **** OOC. And the ACC is garbage this year. All it spells is NIT.

And you say 12-8 in a power conference. Well Seton Hall went 13-7 in a power conference. So therefore they must be better according to your ******* "logic".

Stever Stever Stever. Are you a Seton Hall fan? Will you admit your fandom for all to see? Or are you still being a coward?

Can you explain why Seton Hall’s NET is pathetic and they were waxed by the Johnnies in a must-win game? Why is their NET 20+ spots behind Pitt? Don’t forget, you LOVE the NET.

The NET isn't everything at all. Pitt just doesn't have the wins against tourney teams. Exactly 1 win against a definite tourney team in Duke (plus 1 vs Virginia). Seton Hall on the other hand at least has 2, plus 2 against St John's.

Frankly I think both ultimately miss the tourney.

I’m old school. I want to see teams playing like tournament teams in their do or die tournaments. Pitt 100% did that, as much as I hate to admit because I don’t particularly like them. They will win a game or two right now.

Meanwhile Seton Hall s’d the bed in a game they knew was important. Their resume doesn’t excuse them from that.

If aTm makes it, look out for the upset! They’re prone to it!

A&M won't be playing in an upset possible game. They're going to wind up being a 9 or 10 seed. Totally miss Dayton after doing well in this do or die tourney like you say.

(03-15-2024 11:06 PM)esayem Wrote:  

(03-15-2024 08:57 PM)WhoseHouse? Wrote:  

(03-15-2024 08:44 PM)esayem Wrote:  

(03-15-2024 08:40 PM)WhoseHouse? Wrote:  

(03-15-2024 08:35 PM)esayem Wrote:  Pitt is playing like tournament team. I don't like them, I call them Dook Lite. But I can't even hate, they are a tournament team. Oh, and they didn't lose 5 Q3 games and their NET isn't in the 60's.

At some point people need to realize if you finish fourth in a power conference, you're probably capable of playing in the Big Dance.

I thought the ACC crowd didn't like teams that played soft non-conf schedules?

They went 2-2 against P6 teams. Not great, but not terrible.

Can't punish them too harshly for drunk 'n' a slurrin' Huggy Bear, right? He was supposed to have a contender.

They played the 5th worst non-conference slate among P6 teams according to KP and the 2nd worst according to ESPN. They only played 4 P6 teams, 3 of whom finished in last place in their respective leagues. Not great would be an understatement. So would terrible.

Yeah but is it their fault those teams ended up sucking?

I don't care about metrics, that's a tournament team. They finished 4th in a conference, ahead of other teams getting in. Yet, aTm gets a pass despite losing 5 Q3 games on a weak ass schedule. Make sense of that please.

It’s certainly their fault that they lost to a Mizzou team that went 0-18 in the SEC. It’s funny that the ACC fans have been clamoring about how teams shouldn’t be rewarded for playing a cupcake non-conference until it’s one of their own. Lol

Reality is Pitt played one team in their 11 game non-conference slate that had a pulse (Florida). They lost that game by 15. They didn’t pick up a single noteworthy win in the non-conference. In the meantime A&M played a much tougher non-conference slate and while they have a couple more bad losses, they also have way more quality wins than Pitt (7-6 in Q1 compared to 4-6 and 6-2 in Q2 compared to 5-3).

Only thing we can really ask from the committee is that they’re consistent with their criteria. A&M was left out a few years ago with a very similar resume to what Pitt has. Imo they deserve to make it this year because of their Q1 record and overall SOS which is currently rated higher than every ACC team’s.

(03-16-2024 12:17 AM)esayem Wrote:  

(03-16-2024 12:03 AM)stever20 Wrote:  

(03-16-2024 12:00 AM)esayem Wrote:  

(03-15-2024 11:54 PM)stever20 Wrote:  

(03-15-2024 11:52 PM)esayem Wrote:  Stever, they won their games. They went 12-8 in a Power conference. Their NET is ~40.

Your boys at Seton Hall are in the 60’s. You LOVE the NET. You LOVE it! Who cares if you lose to good teams, Stever. You need to win games. I’m surprised your boy Lunardi doesn’t have St. Joe’s in lol

They scheduled like **** OOC. And the ACC is garbage this year. All it spells is NIT.

And you say 12-8 in a power conference. Well Seton Hall went 13-7 in a power conference. So therefore they must be better according to your ******* "logic".

Stever Stever Stever. Are you a Seton Hall fan? Will you admit your fandom for all to see? Or are you still being a coward?

Can you explain why Seton Hall’s NET is pathetic and they were waxed by the Johnnies in a must-win game? Why is their NET 20+ spots behind Pitt? Don’t forget, you LOVE the NET.

The NET isn't everything at all. Pitt just doesn't have the wins against tourney teams. Exactly 1 win against a definite tourney team in Duke (plus 1 vs Virginia). Seton Hall on the other hand at least has 2, plus 2 against St John's.

Frankly I think both ultimately miss the tourney.

I’m old school. I want to see teams playing like tournament teams in their do or die tournaments. Pitt 100% did that, as much as I hate to admit because I don’t particularly like them. They will win a game or two right now.

Meanwhile Seton Hall s’d the bed in a game they knew was important. Their resume doesn’t excuse them from that.

If aTm makes it, look out for the upset! They’re prone to it!

So Pitt beating a WF team that’s a bubble team at best and losing to UNC is looking like a tourney team but A&M beating Ole Miss and a highly ranked Kentucky team isn’t? Lol cmon man.

Both TAMU and Mississippi State had the kind of nights where they can rest easier for Sunday.

And then you look at all the metrics for those out on the bubble and see where Indiana State has something over all of them, but could still miss this thing. Ugh.

(03-16-2024 03:41 AM)WhoseHouse? Wrote:  

(03-16-2024 12:17 AM)esayem Wrote:  

(03-16-2024 12:03 AM)stever20 Wrote:  

(03-16-2024 12:00 AM)esayem Wrote:  

(03-15-2024 11:54 PM)stever20 Wrote:  They scheduled like **** OOC. And the ACC is garbage this year. All it spells is NIT.

And you say 12-8 in a power conference. Well Seton Hall went 13-7 in a power conference. So therefore they must be better according to your ******* "logic".

Stever Stever Stever. Are you a Seton Hall fan? Will you admit your fandom for all to see? Or are you still being a coward?

Can you explain why Seton Hall’s NET is pathetic and they were waxed by the Johnnies in a must-win game? Why is their NET 20+ spots behind Pitt? Don’t forget, you LOVE the NET.

The NET isn't everything at all. Pitt just doesn't have the wins against tourney teams. Exactly 1 win against a definite tourney team in Duke (plus 1 vs Virginia). Seton Hall on the other hand at least has 2, plus 2 against St John's.

Frankly I think both ultimately miss the tourney.

I’m old school. I want to see teams playing like tournament teams in their do or die tournaments. Pitt 100% did that, as much as I hate to admit because I don’t particularly like them. They will win a game or two right now.

Meanwhile Seton Hall s’d the bed in a game they knew was important. Their resume doesn’t excuse them from that.

If aTm makes it, look out for the upset! They’re prone to it!

So Pitt beating a WF team that’s a bubble team at best and losing to UNC is looking like a tourney team but A&M beating Ole Miss and a highly ranked Kentucky team isn’t? Lol cmon man.

They went 12-8 in conference

Have a 40 ~NET w/ 4 Q1 wins

Beat Wake in a must-win game

Just played a #1 seed to the wire

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Seton Hall

13 wins in conference

60 something NET w/ 5 Q1 wins

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Lost to the Johnnies in a must-win (blew out)

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I know aTm will make it, but let’s not ignore the fact they lost 5 Q3 games and y’all are ignoring it

(03-16-2024 07:11 AM)esayem Wrote:  

(03-16-2024 03:41 AM)WhoseHouse? Wrote:  

(03-16-2024 12:17 AM)esayem Wrote:  

(03-16-2024 12:03 AM)stever20 Wrote:  

(03-16-2024 12:00 AM)esayem Wrote:  Stever Stever Stever. Are you a Seton Hall fan? Will you admit your fandom for all to see? Or are you still being a coward?

Can you explain why Seton Hall’s NET is pathetic and they were waxed by the Johnnies in a must-win game? Why is their NET 20+ spots behind Pitt? Don’t forget, you LOVE the NET.

The NET isn't everything at all. Pitt just doesn't have the wins against tourney teams. Exactly 1 win against a definite tourney team in Duke (plus 1 vs Virginia). Seton Hall on the other hand at least has 2, plus 2 against St John's.

Frankly I think both ultimately miss the tourney.

I’m old school. I want to see teams playing like tournament teams in their do or die tournaments. Pitt 100% did that, as much as I hate to admit because I don’t particularly like them. They will win a game or two right now.

Meanwhile Seton Hall s’d the bed in a game they knew was important. Their resume doesn’t excuse them from that.

If aTm makes it, look out for the upset! They’re prone to it!

So Pitt beating a WF team that’s a bubble team at best and losing to UNC is looking like a tourney team but A&M beating Ole Miss and a highly ranked Kentucky team isn’t? Lol cmon man.

They went 12-8 in conference

Have a 40 ~NET w/ 4 Q1 wins

Beat Wake in a must-win game

Just played a #1 seed to the wire

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Seton Hall

13 wins in conference

60 something NET w/ 5 Q1 wins

BUT

Lost to the Johnnies in a must-win (blew out)

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I know aTm will make it, but let’s not ignore the fact they lost 5 Q3 games and y’all are ignoring it

No one’s ignoring it. It’s why they’re a bubble team to begin with. If they didn’t have those losses they’d be a very high seed.

Pitt needs to be praying that teams like NCST lose. They’re odds of getting in diminish with every bid thief.

(03-16-2024 08:39 AM)WhoseHouse? Wrote:  No one’s ignoring it. It’s why they’re a bubble team to begin with. If they didn’t have those losses they’d be a very high seed.

Pitt needs to be praying that teams like NCST lose. They’re odds of getting in diminish with every bid thief.

I've watched both aTm and Pitt recently, and they both pass the eye test. Seton Hall does not.

Pitt has an all-freshman back court. Why is this not taken into account? They're now acclimated to the college game and they are 10-3 to finish the season with losses to two tournament teams (Carolina and Clemson) and bubblin' Wake—which they split the season with and won the rubber match on a neutral court.

I agree if State wins tonight, the committee pulls a bid from the ACC.

Who are potential bid thieves still alive in their CCTs (including bubble teams)?

I see NC State, Colorado, Oregon, USF and Temple. Any others?

(03-16-2024 08:39 AM)WhoseHouse? Wrote:  

(03-16-2024 07:11 AM)esayem Wrote:  

(03-16-2024 03:41 AM)WhoseHouse? Wrote:  

(03-16-2024 12:17 AM)esayem Wrote:  

(03-16-2024 12:03 AM)stever20 Wrote:  The NET isn't everything at all. Pitt just doesn't have the wins against tourney teams. Exactly 1 win against a definite tourney team in Duke (plus 1 vs Virginia). Seton Hall on the other hand at least has 2, plus 2 against St John's.

Frankly I think both ultimately miss the tourney.

I’m old school. I want to see teams playing like tournament teams in their do or die tournaments. Pitt 100% did that, as much as I hate to admit because I don’t particularly like them. They will win a game or two right now.

Meanwhile Seton Hall s’d the bed in a game they knew was important. Their resume doesn’t excuse them from that.

If aTm makes it, look out for the upset! They’re prone to it!

So Pitt beating a WF team that’s a bubble team at best and losing to UNC is looking like a tourney team but A&M beating Ole Miss and a highly ranked Kentucky team isn’t? Lol cmon man.

They went 12-8 in conference

Have a 40 ~NET w/ 4 Q1 wins

Beat Wake in a must-win game

Just played a #1 seed to the wire

Trending up


Vs

Seton Hall

13 wins in conference

60 something NET w/ 5 Q1 wins

BUT

Lost to the Johnnies in a must-win (blew out)

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I know aTm will make it, but let’s not ignore the fact they lost 5 Q3 games and y’all are ignoring it

No one’s ignoring it. It’s why they’re a bubble team to begin with. If they didn’t have those losses they’d be a very high seed.

Pitt needs to be praying that teams like NCST lose. They’re odds of getting in diminish with every bid thief.

Duke has 3 home loses this year: Arizona, UNC and Pitt.

Virginia has 2 home loses: UNC and Pitt

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(03-16-2024 12:03 AM)IWokeUpLikeThis Wrote:  

(03-15-2024 11:59 PM)stever20 Wrote:  saw someone mention that this year is one of the stronger bubbles. Normally a lot of these resumes are in pretty easily. Not this year.

Yeah, this is the strongest bubble in a long time. Some teams who would get in 8 of 10 years are going to be left out.

Too bad the NCAA Tournament isn't 72 this year.

Honestly, I'm old school, from back when the magic number was 20 wins and you're in was in effect, if you were a power-conference school.

But watching these conference tournaments, it seems like everyone, other than my Georgetown, is 21-12 or something like that, and I can't figure out if they are a bubble team or not, LOL.

It's like I watch 21-12 team X and they lose, and the announcers say things like "next stop, the big dance!" and then another team Y that is 21-12 and they lose and it's like "well this was must-win for them to have any chance at all to get in, so season over", and there's no rhyme or reason to it for me.

(03-16-2024 09:36 AM)curtis0620 Wrote:  

(03-16-2024 08:39 AM)WhoseHouse? Wrote:  

(03-16-2024 07:11 AM)esayem Wrote:  

(03-16-2024 03:41 AM)WhoseHouse? Wrote:  

(03-16-2024 12:17 AM)esayem Wrote:  I’m old school. I want to see teams playing like tournament teams in their do or die tournaments. Pitt 100% did that, as much as I hate to admit because I don’t particularly like them. They will win a game or two right now.

Meanwhile Seton Hall s’d the bed in a game they knew was important. Their resume doesn’t excuse them from that.

If aTm makes it, look out for the upset! They’re prone to it!

So Pitt beating a WF team that’s a bubble team at best and losing to UNC is looking like a tourney team but A&M beating Ole Miss and a highly ranked Kentucky team isn’t? Lol cmon man.

They went 12-8 in conference

Have a 40 ~NET w/ 4 Q1 wins

Beat Wake in a must-win game

Just played a #1 seed to the wire

Trending up


Vs

Seton Hall

13 wins in conference

60 something NET w/ 5 Q1 wins

BUT

Lost to the Johnnies in a must-win (blew out)

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I know aTm will make it, but let’s not ignore the fact they lost 5 Q3 games and y’all are ignoring it

No one’s ignoring it. It’s why they’re a bubble team to begin with. If they didn’t have those losses they’d be a very high seed.

Pitt needs to be praying that teams like NCST lose. They’re odds of getting in diminish with every bid thief.

Duke has 3 home loses this year: Arizona, UNC and Pitt.

Virginia has 2 home loses: UNC and Pitt

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Those are good wins. I don’t think anyone’s knocking yalls conference performance. Maybe the committee will think y’all did enough. But if you don’t make it, it’ll be because yalls non-conference slate.

(03-16-2024 09:08 AM)esayem Wrote:  

(03-16-2024 08:39 AM)WhoseHouse? Wrote:  No one’s ignoring it. It’s why they’re a bubble team to begin with. If they didn’t have those losses they’d be a very high seed.

Pitt needs to be praying that teams like NCST lose. They’re odds of getting in diminish with every bid thief.

I've watched both aTm and Pitt recently, and they both pass the eye test. Seton Hall does not.

Pitt has an all-freshman back court. Why is this not taken into account? They're now acclimated to the college game and they are 10-3 to finish the season with losses to two tournament teams (Carolina and Clemson) and bubblin' Wake—which they split the season with and won the rubber match on a neutral court.

I agree if State wins tonight, the committee pulls a bid from the ACC.

You’d have to take that up with the committee. I’m sure we all have opinions on what should be part of the criteria and what shouldn’t. If it were up to me no team under .500 in conference play would be eligible to receive an at-large. I haven’t done a deep dive on SH so I’m not sure who has the better resume between them and Pitt (though I do know they beat UConn).

Main reason I’m interested in A&M is to see if the committee is going to be consistent with their selection criteria. In 2022 they were left out despite winning 23 games and having a NET of 36. They were left out for an 18-13 Rutgers team that had a NET of 80. The reason cited was that A&M had an unimpressive Q1 record while Rutgers had a 7-7 Q1 record. Of course they also were 2-4 in Q2, 4-2 in Q3, and 5-1 in Q4 but the committee ignored all of that because of their 7 Q1 wins.

(03-16-2024 09:15 AM)ken d Wrote:  Who are potential bid thieves still alive in their CCTs (including bubble teams)?

I see NC State, Colorado, Oregon, USF and Temple. Any others?

NC State, Oregon, and Temple are potential bid thieves. USF won the regular season title in the AAC and would not seem to be a bid thieve, except for their 73 Net Ranking and 0-0 Q1 record. Colorado is in with a Net Ranking of 24 and an eight-game winning streak. Joe Lunardi described the Buffs as a team with a high ceiling and he thinks the committee knows that.