(10-29-2023 08:09 AM)TealNation Wrote:  

(10-29-2023 05:39 AM)Johns1124 Wrote:  Huff is done. The only question is how much is it going to cost to buy out his last year. No one is stupid enough to hire him away. He is just as full of
smoke and mirrors than Danny.

How the tables turn. Seems like not long ago, he was thrown into arguments to be the next head coach at Michigan State...

Teal - so true! He is a joke, and nowhere close to D1 HC material.

(10-29-2023 05:39 AM)Johns1124 Wrote:  Huff is done. The only question is how much is it going to cost to buy out his last year. No one is stupid enough to hire him away. He is just as full of
smoke and mirrors than Danny.

Someone shared with me last night, Rich Rod had inquired about the HC job in 2021. Would he be the right choice after Huff's departure?

(10-29-2023 09:51 AM)THE NC Herd Fan Wrote:  

(10-29-2023 05:39 AM)Johns1124 Wrote:  Huff is done. The only question is how much is it going to cost to buy out his last year. No one is stupid enough to hire him away. He is just as full of
smoke and mirrors than Danny.

Someone shared with me last night, Rich Rod had inquired about the HC job in 2021. Would he be the right choice after Huff's departure?

Rich Rod would be fine. Another year with Huff and our program would need years to recover.

(10-29-2023 09:51 AM)THE NC Herd Fan Wrote:  

(10-29-2023 05:39 AM)Johns1124 Wrote:  Huff is done. The only question is how much is it going to cost to buy out his last year. No one is stupid enough to hire him away. He is just as full of
smoke and mirrors than Danny.

Someone shared with me last night, Rich Rod had inquired about the HC job in 2021. Would he be the right choice after Huff's departure?

I don't know, I definitely think we need to go young coordinator on our next hire. Unfortunately we won't know that until the end of 2024, because Huff's contract has one more year on it and we're definitely not in a position to be buying out people's contracts after a .500 or slightly worse season.

Our only hope at this point is to go winless for these last four games, which is absolutely on the table.

(10-29-2023 10:11 AM)rileylives Wrote:  

(10-29-2023 09:51 AM)THE NC Herd Fan Wrote:  

(10-29-2023 05:39 AM)Johns1124 Wrote:  Huff is done. The only question is how much is it going to cost to buy out his last year. No one is stupid enough to hire him away. He is just as full of
smoke and mirrors than Danny.

Someone shared with me last night, Rich Rod had inquired about the HC job in 2021. Would he be the right choice after Huff's departure?

I don't know, I definitely think we need to go young coordinator on our next hire. Unfortunately we won't know that until the end of 2024, because Huff's contract has one more year on it and we're definitely not in a position to be buying out people's contracts after a .500 or slightly worse season.

Our only hope at this point is to go winless for these last four games, which is absolutely on the table.

Or Marshall could go 4-0 or 3-1, and then go bowling. Marshall is a talented team. The last third of the season will be interesting for the Herd.

(10-29-2023 10:11 AM)rileylives Wrote:  

(10-29-2023 09:51 AM)THE NC Herd Fan Wrote:  

(10-29-2023 05:39 AM)Johns1124 Wrote:  Huff is done. The only question is how much is it going to cost to buy out his last year. No one is stupid enough to hire him away. He is just as full of
smoke and mirrors than Danny.

Someone shared with me last night, Rich Rod had inquired about the HC job in 2021. Would he be the right choice after Huff's departure?

I don't know, I definitely think we need to go young coordinator on our next hire. Unfortunately we won't know that until the end of 2024, because Huff's contract has one more year on it and we're definitely not in a position to be buying out people's contracts after a .500 or slightly worse season.

Our only hope at this point is to go winless for these last four games, which is absolutely on the table.

Why can't Marshall afford to buyout his last year? Surely Marshall didn't give him a raise after last season? Most coaches have extenders built into their contract. If so you would think 9-4 would have triggered it and added a year?

Sometimes a school has to look at it another way....can you afford not to. That is the position Western took firing Boy Idiot after two seasons. I was hoping Western would have had another 9 win season so some foolish AD would be offering Helton. Western is in the same position As Marshall with Doc....

coach that 3 out of 4 years going to get you 9 wins but choke and loses a 2 to 3 games he shouldn't lose EVERY YEAR. But I guess that happens when you are replacing your OC 4 times in 5 seasons and DC 3 times

I personally thought Marshall should have went with a offensive coach after Doc. Correct offensive system and a decent QB and a few good skill players is hard to beat in the G5. Especially with a average to above defense.

BTW that Pennington kid doesn't look like he's a chip off the old block

(10-30-2023 12:55 AM)WKUYG Wrote:  

(10-29-2023 10:11 AM)rileylives Wrote:  

(10-29-2023 09:51 AM)THE NC Herd Fan Wrote:  

(10-29-2023 05:39 AM)Johns1124 Wrote:  Huff is done. The only question is how much is it going to cost to buy out his last year. No one is stupid enough to hire him away. He is just as full of
smoke and mirrors than Danny.

Someone shared with me last night, Rich Rod had inquired about the HC job in 2021. Would he be the right choice after Huff's departure?

I don't know, I definitely think we need to go young coordinator on our next hire. Unfortunately we won't know that until the end of 2024, because Huff's contract has one more year on it and we're definitely not in a position to be buying out people's contracts after a .500 or slightly worse season.

Our only hope at this point is to go winless for these last four games, which is absolutely on the table.

Why can't Marshall afford to buyout his last year? Surely Marshall didn't give him a raise after last season? Most coaches have extenders built into their contract. If so you would think 9-4 would have triggered it and added a year?

Sometimes a school has to look at it another way....can you afford not to. That is the position Western took firing Boy Idiot after two seasons. I was hoping Western would have had another 9 win season so some foolish AD would be offering Helton. Western is in the same position As Marshall with Doc....

coach that 3 out of 4 years going to get you 9 wins but choke and loses a 2 to 3 games he shouldn't lose EVERY YEAR. But I guess that happens when you are replacing your OC 4 times in 5 seasons and DC 3 times

I personally thought Marshall should have went with a offensive coach after Doc. Correct offensive system and a decent QB and a few good skill players is hard to beat in the G5. Especially with a average to above defense.

BTW that Pennington kid doesn't look like he's a chip off the old block

The rumor is that Coach Huff was offered an extension after last season and turned it down. I am not sure if that is true, because it doesn't make sense to me. I mean it's not like a P5 couldn't afford to buy him out regardless of he signed the extension or not.

And you are right about Marshall needing to go with an offensive coach. WKU always seems to make good decisions when it comes to hiring offensive minded coaches. IMO, we need to follow that model.

Huff had no solid coaching connections to pull from on the coordinator level. That's more crucial than the actual HC. We may win one more game this season and next year will be much the same. Huff won't leave and Marshall won't fire him.
I doubt he makes staff changes for 2024. His funeral. Well, at least we have men's soccer.

(10-30-2023 08:43 AM)SVHerd Wrote:  Marshall won't fire him.

What makes you think that? Unlike the previous FB coach and a BB coach we know. He has zero connections to the University to ensure his protection.

(10-30-2023 07:46 AM)GreenDaddy Wrote:  The rumor is that Coach Huff was offered an extension after last season and turned it down. I am not sure if that is true, because it doesn't make sense to me. I mean it's not like a P5 couldn't afford to buy him out regardless of he signed the extension or not.

And you are right about Marshall needing to go with an offensive coach. WKU always seems to make good decisions when it comes to hiring offensive minded coaches. IMO, we need to follow that model.

Not sure I believe that. He has yet to put together a complete season in the last three. He inherited a Top 25 caliber team (2019) and has done little with it. Not sure what I see to entend his contract.

(10-28-2023 09:22 PM)rileylives Wrote:  

(10-25-2023 01:16 PM)GreenBison Wrote:  I just asked if our backups are prepared for Saturday.
I wish our OLine could block like this.

He actually blocked you for making a comment in jest?

Well after tonight's performance, he's gonna be able to build his own house with all the blocks this week.

Yeah, that's some real weak sauce from Huff-n-Puff.

(10-30-2023 09:03 AM)Johns1124 Wrote:  

(10-30-2023 08:43 AM)SVHerd Wrote:  Marshall won't fire him.

What makes you think that? Unlike the previous FB coach and a BB coach we know. He has zero connections to the University to ensure his protection.

We don't have the money to buy him out now. That's why he'll be back in 2024.

(10-30-2023 09:54 AM)SVHerd Wrote:  

(10-30-2023 09:03 AM)Johns1124 Wrote:  

(10-30-2023 08:43 AM)SVHerd Wrote:  Marshall won't fire him.

What makes you think that? Unlike the previous FB coach and a BB coach we know. He has zero connections to the University to ensure his protection.

We don't have the money to buy him out now. That's why he'll be back in 2024.

How do you know that?

(10-30-2023 11:42 AM)Johns1124 Wrote:  

(10-30-2023 09:54 AM)SVHerd Wrote:  

(10-30-2023 09:03 AM)Johns1124 Wrote:  [quote='SVHerd' pid='19243387' dateline='1698673394']
Marshall won't fire him.

What makes you think that? Unlike the previous FB coach and a BB coach we know. He has zero connections to the University to ensure his protection.

We don't have the money to buy him out now. That's why he'll be back in 2024.

How do you know that?
[/quote

Have you ever known us to buy out a coach. We let them stay until their contract runs out so we don't owe them any money. Happened to Doc.

(10-30-2023 09:54 AM)SVHerd Wrote:  

(10-30-2023 09:03 AM)Johns1124 Wrote:  

(10-30-2023 08:43 AM)SVHerd Wrote:  Marshall won't fire him.

What makes you think that? Unlike the previous FB coach and a BB coach we know. He has zero connections to the University to ensure his protection.

We don't have the money to buy him out now. That's why he'll be back in 2024.

Nonsense. We can absolutely move on if we want to do so, and I think it's a good bet we will.

(10-30-2023 12:52 PM)SVHerd Wrote:  

(10-30-2023 11:42 AM)Johns1124 Wrote:  

(10-30-2023 09:54 AM)SVHerd Wrote:  

(10-30-2023 09:03 AM)Johns1124 Wrote:  [quote='SVHerd' pid='19243387' dateline='1698673394']
Marshall won't fire him.

What makes you think that? Unlike the previous FB coach and a BB coach we know. He has zero connections to the University to ensure his protection.

We don't have the money to buy him out now. That's why he'll be back in 2024.

How do you know that?
[/quote

Have you ever known us to buy out a coach. We let them stay until their contract runs out so we don't owe them any money. Happened to Doc.

We will owe him $755k minus what he makes with his next job or something similar to that.

(10-30-2023 01:09 PM)GreenBison Wrote:  

(10-30-2023 12:52 PM)SVHerd Wrote:  

(10-30-2023 11:42 AM)Johns1124 Wrote:  

(10-30-2023 09:54 AM)SVHerd Wrote:  

(10-30-2023 09:03 AM)Johns1124 Wrote:  [quote='SVHerd' pid='19243387' dateline='1698673394']
Marshall won't fire him.

What makes you think that? Unlike the previous FB coach and a BB coach we know. He has zero connections to the University to ensure his protection.

We don't have the money to buy him out now. That's why he'll be back in 2024.

How do you know that?
[/quote

Have you ever known us to buy out a coach. We let them stay until their contract runs out so we don't owe them any money. Happened to Doc.

We will owe him $755k minus what he makes with his next job or something similar to that.

If he's fired he'll sit out a season and collect the $755k unless he lands an assistant coaching gig that pays more. He's not bound for any FBS level head coaching job if he and Marshall part ways at season's end. Paying $755k to get rid of him would make it hard to offer a competitive compensation package for top tier coaching candidates.

(10-30-2023 12:55 AM)WKUYG Wrote:  

(10-29-2023 10:11 AM)rileylives Wrote:  

(10-29-2023 09:51 AM)THE NC Herd Fan Wrote:  

(10-29-2023 05:39 AM)Johns1124 Wrote:  Huff is done. The only question is how much is it going to cost to buy out his last year. No one is stupid enough to hire him away. He is just as full of
smoke and mirrors than Danny.

Someone shared with me last night, Rich Rod had inquired about the HC job in 2021. Would he be the right choice after Huff's departure?

I don't know, I definitely think we need to go young coordinator on our next hire. Unfortunately we won't know that until the end of 2024, because Huff's contract has one more year on it and we're definitely not in a position to be buying out people's contracts after a .500 or slightly worse season.

Our only hope at this point is to go winless for these last four games, which is absolutely on the table.

Why can't Marshall afford to buyout his last year? Surely Marshall didn't give him a raise after last season? Most coaches have extenders built into their contract. If so you would think 9-4 would have triggered it and added a year?

Sometimes a school has to look at it another way....can you afford not to. That is the position Western took firing Boy Idiot after two seasons. I was hoping Western would have had another 9 win season so some foolish AD would be offering Helton. Western is in the same position As Marshall with Doc....

coach that 3 out of 4 years going to get you 9 wins but choke and loses a 2 to 3 games he shouldn't lose EVERY YEAR. But I guess that happens when you are replacing your OC 4 times in 5 seasons and DC 3 times

I personally thought Marshall should have went with a offensive coach after Doc. Correct offensive system and a decent QB and a few good skill players is hard to beat in the G5. Especially with a average to above defense.

BTW that Pennington kid doesn't look like he's a chip off the old block

His dad threw 5 interceptions in his first outing.... So, there is hope...

(10-29-2023 10:11 AM)rileylives Wrote:  

(10-29-2023 09:51 AM)THE NC Herd Fan Wrote:  

(10-29-2023 05:39 AM)Johns1124 Wrote:  Huff is done. The only question is how much is it going to cost to buy out his last year. No one is stupid enough to hire him away. He is just as full of
smoke and mirrors than Danny.

Someone shared with me last night, Rich Rod had inquired about the HC job in 2021. Would he be the right choice after Huff's departure?

I don't know, I definitely think we need to go young coordinator on our next hire. Unfortunately we won't know that until the end of 2024, because Huff's contract has one more year on it and we're definitely not in a position to be buying out people's contracts after a .500 or slightly worse season.

Our only hope at this point is to go winless for these last four games, which is absolutely on the table.

Disagree.. I think we need to go after a FCS coach (preferably in the south) who is winning at a good clip. Western Carolina's coach, Kerwin Bell may fit that bill..
He has taken WCU from a nobody, to a top 20 team in 2 years. Also has a few DII championships under his belt...

(10-31-2023 12:34 AM)TomorrowHerd Wrote:  

(10-29-2023 10:11 AM)rileylives Wrote:  

(10-29-2023 09:51 AM)THE NC Herd Fan Wrote:  

(10-29-2023 05:39 AM)Johns1124 Wrote:  Huff is done. The only question is how much is it going to cost to buy out his last year. No one is stupid enough to hire him away. He is just as full of
smoke and mirrors than Danny.

Someone shared with me last night, Rich Rod had inquired about the HC job in 2021. Would he be the right choice after Huff's departure?

I don't know, I definitely think we need to go young coordinator on our next hire. Unfortunately we won't know that until the end of 2024, because Huff's contract has one more year on it and we're definitely not in a position to be buying out people's contracts after a .500 or slightly worse season.

Our only hope at this point is to go winless for these last four games, which is absolutely on the table.

Disagree.. I think we need to go after a FCS coach (preferably in the south) who is winning at a good clip. Western Carolina's coach, Kerwin Bell may fit that bill..
He has taken WCU from a nobody, to a top 20 team in 2 years. Also has a few DII championships under his belt...

Given USC's history Lincoln Riley may be available by game three or four next season.