(06-20-2023 11:39 AM)Aztecgolfer Wrote: (06-19-2023 08:08 PM)johnbragg Wrote: (06-19-2023 07:36 PM)Aztecgolfer Wrote: From the MWC's response, and I believe they chose to make this public, they know SDSU is gone (it isn't a big secret), they have for some time and decided to be an ass about it. Really? Any other MWC school would jump at a chance for a B12 invite, much less one from the PAC. SDSU is a founding member of the MWC, its ties to the conference (via the WAC) going back to 1978. They just gave the conference huge exposure and money via their MM run culminating in playing in the national championship. And yet, this is how they are being treated because they are going to a P5 conference?
Like I have said. Good riddance.
How is the Mountain West mistreating SDSU here? The Mountain West has an exit fee, everybody knew that. The exit fee doubles if you leave with less than 12 months notice. EVerybody knew that too.
The 12 months provision is important, partially because most conferences have the same or similar provisions. So if the Mountain West wants to backfill to stay as 12, their process is delayed. Whoever they bring in (Texas State) for 2024 is going to have to leave their conference on short notice.
The request for an extension makes no sense. The Mountain West has their timetable, laid out by the bylaws, and SDSU can decide what to do based on that.
The request for a payment plan is more reasonable, but since it's in the context of the less-reasonable demands, I expect the Mountain West will withhold SDSU's 2023 and 2024 distributions and hope they can collect the rest in court.
SDSU has done nothing that other schools haven't done when exiting their conference.
I would ask the same question Quo Vadis did -- has anyone ever asked for an extension or an adjustment of a notice period?
I would add the question, has anyone ever notified their conference that they might want to withdraw, but they're not withdrawing, at least not yet?
Quote:Again, someone in the MWC decided to make this request public and, despite SDSU denying that this was an official letter to resign, the MWC says it is.
So you're saying this isn't a notice of withdrawal, it's just a list of hypothetical questions.
Quote:SDSU is going to a P5 conference, it isn't a lateral move.
Except it's not hypothetical at all. SDSU has a PAC invite in their pocket. OR they don't but they're 90% sure they're getting one in a few months.
Quote:Personally, I think it is the MWC that looks bad in all this and it just solidifies the Aztec community on the fact that this conference has been antagonistic towards SDSU for quite some time.
I don't know how important "looks bad" is. But the heirarchy of who looks worst:
1. The PAC. They don't have a media deal. Their member-to-be is twisting in the wind, but they won't invite them because it's apparently super important that the TV deal be done before expansion. Much more important than saving their new conference mate $17M.
2. SDSU looks a little silly, trying to thread the needle, trying to have it both ways. But they get some sympathy because they're in a tough spot.
3. Mountain West doesn't look bad at all. They have rules, SDSU made a fairly ridiculous request.
I'm going to point out that this is about withholding distributions. (I thinkk so anyway). I expect that the MWC sends out checks on June 15 or 30 or July 1 or whatever. Declaring that SDSU has withdrawn means that the Mountain West can withhold their check for 2022-23, paying the first 1/3 of the exit fee.
Do you really think that any conference would get the SDSU letter and respond positively to those requests? "Sure, take all the time you need. That 12 month notice provision isn't in there for any valid reason." Really?
You want an example of the Mountain West being petty, look at their treatment of Boise State, first refusing to scale the Boise STate $1.8M bonus as the contract grows, then trying to weasel out of the separate Boise STate contract entirely.