It would make sense for Warner/Turner or whatever it's called this week to invest in college sports.

There were rumors of them looking at other leagues in the past few years, but now might not be the time to invest in the PAC.

Either way, this report isn't accurate. College presidents are not equipped to negotiate with a major media company.

(03-30-2023 10:13 PM)Skyhawk Wrote:  

(03-30-2023 03:26 PM)DavidSt Wrote:  

(03-30-2023 02:15 AM)Skyhawk Wrote:  

(03-29-2023 11:53 PM)DavidSt Wrote:  

(03-29-2023 09:48 PM)GTFletch Wrote:  Please note that Brett McMurphy reported Mid Feb that CBS and Turner pulled out of negotiations.

So is TNT back at the table speaking to the Stanford & Utah Presidents?

Link
https://twitter.com/Brett_McMurphy/statu...8352281600

Turner does not own TNT anymore. It is now own by Discovry Inc which they said they were looking at sporting events after stop making scripted shows.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Warner_Bros._Discovery

Warner owns Turner...

Discovery bought them out in a merger. The parent company is Discovery Inc, not Turner.

So you have more than a few facts incorrect.

First there's a difference between Turner Entertainment, and Turner Sports.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turner_Entertainment

Second, Turner apparently still existed as a holding company in Time-Warner after the purchase. As did Turner Sports, and other Turner divisions.

This didn't change (much) until after AT&T bought Warner, and did a Re-Org, including creating a separate division for all News/Sports.

Then later AT&T spun-off Warner, and then Warner merged with Discovery.

So Turner is still owned by them, through the Warner bros. purchase.

As for the actual name of the company, it's:

Warner Bros. Discovery

And as for the "parent" of TNT (and TBS) - the parent is:

Warner Bros. Discovery Networks.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_as...y_Networks

And per the most recent Re-Org, Turner Sports is under:

Warner Bros. Discovery Sports

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Warner_Bro...ery_Sports

Anyway, I'm not a corporate lawyer, and have not seen the actual corporate documents, and I doubt that you have either, so I think we can leave this nonsense there.

Is Warner Bros. Discovery interested in sports? Sure.

Are they trying to get them cheaply? Apparently - For example, they've apparently already told the NBA they expect to be changing up their next deal.

Will they overpay for the PAC? Incredibly unlikely.

They may not be able to renew the NBA, but get the PAC 12 at $40 million per school could be way cheaper than the NBA right now.

(03-30-2023 08:42 AM)Skyhawk Wrote:  

(03-30-2023 07:35 AM)GarnetAndBlue Wrote:  

(03-30-2023 07:29 AM)jrj84105 Wrote:  In case people hadn’t already figured this out, there is nothing on the Utah 247 boards about this.

There's a rumor swirling around Twitter this morning that Kliavkoff pulled off a miracle deal - "$200M from Turner, $200M from Apple for a 50-50 split"! ;-)

espn and amazon walked away?

that's interesting, if true.

(03-31-2023 10:18 AM)DavidSt Wrote:  

(03-30-2023 10:13 PM)Skyhawk Wrote:  

(03-30-2023 03:26 PM)DavidSt Wrote:  

(03-30-2023 02:15 AM)Skyhawk Wrote:  

(03-29-2023 11:53 PM)DavidSt Wrote:  Turner does not own TNT anymore. It is now own by Discovry Inc which they said they were looking at sporting events after stop making scripted shows.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Warner_Bros._Discovery

Warner owns Turner...

Discovery bought them out in a merger. The parent company is Discovery Inc, not Turner.

So you have more than a few facts incorrect.

First there's a difference between Turner Entertainment, and Turner Sports.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turner_Entertainment

Second, Turner apparently still existed as a holding company in Time-Warner after the purchase. As did Turner Sports, and other Turner divisions.

This didn't change (much) until after AT&T bought Warner, and did a Re-Org, including creating a separate division for all News/Sports.

Then later AT&T spun-off Warner, and then Warner merged with Discovery.

So Turner is still owned by them, through the Warner bros. purchase.

As for the actual name of the company, it's:

Warner Bros. Discovery

And as for the "parent" of TNT (and TBS) - the parent is:

Warner Bros. Discovery Networks.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_as...y_Networks

And per the most recent Re-Org, Turner Sports is under:

Warner Bros. Discovery Sports

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Warner_Bro...ery_Sports

Anyway, I'm not a corporate lawyer, and have not seen the actual corporate documents, and I doubt that you have either, so I think we can leave this nonsense there.

Is Warner Bros. Discovery interested in sports? Sure.

Are they trying to get them cheaply? Apparently - For example, they've apparently already told the NBA they expect to be changing up their next deal.

Will they overpay for the PAC? Incredibly unlikely.

They may not be able to renew the NBA, but get the PAC 12 at $40 million per school could be way cheaper than the NBA right now.

.....because the PAC is a much, much less valuable property

(03-31-2023 10:18 AM)DavidSt Wrote:  

(03-30-2023 10:13 PM)Skyhawk Wrote:  

(03-30-2023 03:26 PM)DavidSt Wrote:  

(03-30-2023 02:15 AM)Skyhawk Wrote:  

(03-29-2023 11:53 PM)DavidSt Wrote:  Turner does not own TNT anymore. It is now own by Discovry Inc which they said they were looking at sporting events after stop making scripted shows.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Warner_Bros._Discovery

Warner owns Turner...

Discovery bought them out in a merger. The parent company is Discovery Inc, not Turner.

So you have more than a few facts incorrect.

First there's a difference between Turner Entertainment, and Turner Sports.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turner_Entertainment

Second, Turner apparently still existed as a holding company in Time-Warner after the purchase. As did Turner Sports, and other Turner divisions.

This didn't change (much) until after AT&T bought Warner, and did a Re-Org, including creating a separate division for all News/Sports.

Then later AT&T spun-off Warner, and then Warner merged with Discovery.

So Turner is still owned by them, through the Warner bros. purchase.

As for the actual name of the company, it's:

Warner Bros. Discovery

And as for the "parent" of TNT (and TBS) - the parent is:

Warner Bros. Discovery Networks.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_as...y_Networks

And per the most recent Re-Org, Turner Sports is under:

Warner Bros. Discovery Sports

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Warner_Bro...ery_Sports

Anyway, I'm not a corporate lawyer, and have not seen the actual corporate documents, and I doubt that you have either, so I think we can leave this nonsense there.

Is Warner Bros. Discovery interested in sports? Sure.

Are they trying to get them cheaply? Apparently - For example, they've apparently already told the NBA they expect to be changing up their next deal.

Will they overpay for the PAC? Incredibly unlikely.

They may not be able to renew the NBA, but get the PAC 12 at $40 million per school could be way cheaper than the NBA right now.

The NBA has value because people watch it.

Why would this company overpay for PAC media rights compared to their current competitors in a market where the sports rights have value, but are diminishing? Apple arguably has to spend more because their distribution model is entirely different from linear cable.

(03-31-2023 10:57 AM)Sicembear11 Wrote:  

(03-31-2023 10:18 AM)DavidSt Wrote:  

(03-30-2023 10:13 PM)Skyhawk Wrote:  

(03-30-2023 03:26 PM)DavidSt Wrote:  

(03-30-2023 02:15 AM)Skyhawk Wrote:  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Warner_Bros._Discovery

Warner owns Turner...

Discovery bought them out in a merger. The parent company is Discovery Inc, not Turner.

So you have more than a few facts incorrect.

First there's a difference between Turner Entertainment, and Turner Sports.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turner_Entertainment

Second, Turner apparently still existed as a holding company in Time-Warner after the purchase. As did Turner Sports, and other Turner divisions.

This didn't change (much) until after AT&T bought Warner, and did a Re-Org, including creating a separate division for all News/Sports.

Then later AT&T spun-off Warner, and then Warner merged with Discovery.

So Turner is still owned by them, through the Warner bros. purchase.

As for the actual name of the company, it's:

Warner Bros. Discovery

And as for the "parent" of TNT (and TBS) - the parent is:

Warner Bros. Discovery Networks.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_as...y_Networks

And per the most recent Re-Org, Turner Sports is under:

Warner Bros. Discovery Sports

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Warner_Bro...ery_Sports

Anyway, I'm not a corporate lawyer, and have not seen the actual corporate documents, and I doubt that you have either, so I think we can leave this nonsense there.

Is Warner Bros. Discovery interested in sports? Sure.

Are they trying to get them cheaply? Apparently - For example, they've apparently already told the NBA they expect to be changing up their next deal.

Will they overpay for the PAC? Incredibly unlikely.

They may not be able to renew the NBA, but get the PAC 12 at $40 million per school could be way cheaper than the NBA right now.

The NBA has value because people watch it.

Why would this company overpay for PAC media rights compared to their current competitors in a market where the sports rights have value, but are diminishing? Apple arguably has to spend more because their distribution model is entirely different from linear cable.

The NBA is a worldwide brand that multiple WBD brands would want to be tied to. The P12 has a much smaller base of interest.

The PAC just needs to get some d@mn deal options on the table so we can end the speculation on the conference's demise.

I sincerely hope 4/15 is a real deadline and not another "two weeks" meme but I suspect that Kliavkoff's charade will continue to drag out till the end of summer and then eventually we will see more realignment.

(03-31-2023 01:45 PM)UCbball21 Wrote:  The PAC just needs to get some d@mn deal options on the table so we can end the speculation on the conference's demise.

I sincerely hope 4/15 is a real deadline and not another "two weeks" meme but I suspect that Kliavkoff's charade will continue to drag out till the end of summer and then eventually we will see more realignment.

I'm hoping that deadline is legit too. I just can't see the Pac 10 schools waiting too much longer. GK seems to think he's going to find a bunch of money in the couch cushions.

(03-31-2023 10:45 AM)johnbragg Wrote:  

(03-30-2023 08:42 AM)Skyhawk Wrote:  

(03-30-2023 07:35 AM)GarnetAndBlue Wrote:  

(03-30-2023 07:29 AM)jrj84105 Wrote:  In case people hadn’t already figured this out, there is nothing on the Utah 247 boards about this.

There's a rumor swirling around Twitter this morning that Kliavkoff pulled off a miracle deal - "$200M from Turner, $200M from Apple for a 50-50 split"! ;-)

espn and amazon walked away?

that's interesting, if true.

(03-31-2023 10:18 AM)DavidSt Wrote:  

(03-30-2023 10:13 PM)Skyhawk Wrote:  

(03-30-2023 03:26 PM)DavidSt Wrote:  

(03-30-2023 02:15 AM)Skyhawk Wrote:  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Warner_Bros._Discovery

Warner owns Turner...

Discovery bought them out in a merger. The parent company is Discovery Inc, not Turner.

So you have more than a few facts incorrect.

First there's a difference between Turner Entertainment, and Turner Sports.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turner_Entertainment

Second, Turner apparently still existed as a holding company in Time-Warner after the purchase. As did Turner Sports, and other Turner divisions.

This didn't change (much) until after AT&T bought Warner, and did a Re-Org, including creating a separate division for all News/Sports.

Then later AT&T spun-off Warner, and then Warner merged with Discovery.

So Turner is still owned by them, through the Warner bros. purchase.

As for the actual name of the company, it's:

Warner Bros. Discovery

And as for the "parent" of TNT (and TBS) - the parent is:

Warner Bros. Discovery Networks.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_as...y_Networks

And per the most recent Re-Org, Turner Sports is under:

Warner Bros. Discovery Sports

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Warner_Bro...ery_Sports

Anyway, I'm not a corporate lawyer, and have not seen the actual corporate documents, and I doubt that you have either, so I think we can leave this nonsense there.

Is Warner Bros. Discovery interested in sports? Sure.

Are they trying to get them cheaply? Apparently - For example, they've apparently already told the NBA they expect to be changing up their next deal.

Will they overpay for the PAC? Incredibly unlikely.

They may not be able to renew the NBA, but get the PAC 12 at $40 million per school could be way cheaper than the NBA right now.

.....because the PAC is a much, much less valuable property

PAC 12 is more valuable than the flyover country called the Big 12.

(03-31-2023 08:23 PM)DavidSt Wrote:  

(03-31-2023 10:45 AM)johnbragg Wrote:  

(03-30-2023 08:42 AM)Skyhawk Wrote:  

(03-30-2023 07:35 AM)GarnetAndBlue Wrote:  

(03-30-2023 07:29 AM)jrj84105 Wrote:  In case people hadn’t already figured this out, there is nothing on the Utah 247 boards about this.

There's a rumor swirling around Twitter this morning that Kliavkoff pulled off a miracle deal - "$200M from Turner, $200M from Apple for a 50-50 split"! ;-)

espn and amazon walked away?

that's interesting, if true.

(03-31-2023 10:18 AM)DavidSt Wrote:  

(03-30-2023 10:13 PM)Skyhawk Wrote:  

(03-30-2023 03:26 PM)DavidSt Wrote:  Discovery bought them out in a merger. The parent company is Discovery Inc, not Turner.

So you have more than a few facts incorrect.

First there's a difference between Turner Entertainment, and Turner Sports.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turner_Entertainment

Second, Turner apparently still existed as a holding company in Time-Warner after the purchase. As did Turner Sports, and other Turner divisions.

This didn't change (much) until after AT&T bought Warner, and did a Re-Org, including creating a separate division for all News/Sports.

Then later AT&T spun-off Warner, and then Warner merged with Discovery.

So Turner is still owned by them, through the Warner bros. purchase.

As for the actual name of the company, it's:

Warner Bros. Discovery

And as for the "parent" of TNT (and TBS) - the parent is:

Warner Bros. Discovery Networks.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_as...y_Networks

And per the most recent Re-Org, Turner Sports is under:

Warner Bros. Discovery Sports

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Warner_Bro...ery_Sports

Anyway, I'm not a corporate lawyer, and have not seen the actual corporate documents, and I doubt that you have either, so I think we can leave this nonsense there.

Is Warner Bros. Discovery interested in sports? Sure.

Are they trying to get them cheaply? Apparently - For example, they've apparently already told the NBA they expect to be changing up their next deal.

Will they overpay for the PAC? Incredibly unlikely.

They may not be able to renew the NBA, but get the PAC 12 at $40 million per school could be way cheaper than the NBA right now.

.....because the PAC is a much, much less valuable property

PAC 12 is more valuable than the flyover country called the Big 12.

Wow, just wow.

(03-31-2023 08:23 PM)DavidSt Wrote:  PAC 12 is more valuable than the flyover country called the Big 12.

#1 Rule of the Marketplace:

Something….Anything….
is only worth what someone is willing to pay for it.