(03-14-2023 11:06 AM)CliftonAve Wrote: These students and the administrator should be ashamed of themselves for treating a guest speaker like this. Do they not realize how privileged they are to have a federal judge speak at their university? Moreover, do they not understand they might learn something from someone with more life and professional experience than they have (last I checked, Judge Duncan has been in the profession for decades while they haven't even taken the bar exam). The DEI administrator had the audacity to lecture to this man and tell him he needs to "learn" something (but they don't)? Seriously?
In terms of culpability, I find the actions of the administrator far worse than the students.
In fact, that administrator has in her title 'inclusion'. Yet she felt absolutely comfortable in attacking the speaker.
As for the issue of the 'yelling shutdown', think about three other episodes in the past that have included these types of 'shutdowns', and tell me what your stances are on those in light of the Stanford shutdown ---
1. The shutdown of the Miami (?) county clerk office during the Gore/Bush recount fiasco by protesting 'righties'?
2. The shutdown of *a figurative ton* of town hall meetings of Democratic congressman during the 'Tea Party summer'?
3. Last, but not least the shutdown of Congress during the certification of the last election?
Not trying to do a 'whadabout', if I am apologies. Just bringing to the forefront that not all shutdowns are against the right. If you all are so adamant about how horrific the Stanford event was (and, I admit, the conduct by the students was stupid, immature, and in horribly bad form, and the conduct by the administrator should get her a suspension), what are your views on the 'shutdowns' by the right above?
Finally, Duncan does sit at the *very* extreme in terms of jurisprudence, even in the 5th Circ. To the extent that while I am comfortable with Ho, Willett, and the another 3 or four in that Circuit that are considered *very* right, Duncan has represented some absolutely highly extreme causes prior to becoming a Circuit of Appeals judge.
I mean, seriously ---- backing state restrictions on adoption focused on being gay?
Good grief. I know loads of gay couples that would make *far* better parents than many man/ woman couples. That is one aspect of Duncan I cant seemingly gloss over.