I have a feeling this is just posturing by the league due to pressure from the member schools. Tarleton was actively selling the move to D1 as far back as 2008. I know because I went on a tour and they were touting that they would move up "soon". The WAC schools have probably been trying to sell "FBS" to recruits for the past 2 years and need the league to at least look like they're trying to move to FBS because they can only pitch FBS for so long with nothing to show for it.

(12-09-2022 09:51 AM)SENOREIDA Wrote:  Wouldn't this require a vote from the 10 current FBS conferences?

Not if they are under the "WAC" moniker.

(12-09-2022 09:49 AM)Yosef181 Wrote:  So why did Kennesaw State (ASUN), Jacksonville State (ASUN), and Sam Houston State (WAC) leave for C-USA? For a TV deal? To be with Liberty?

If this happens, there will be 17 FBS schools in Texas.

I think the original plan was for the WAC to move up alone. But it looked like it wasn't as guaranteed of a plan as first thought. So these schools (particularly SHSU) likely decided to go for a sure thing when CUSA reached out rather than wait on the WAC maybe being able to move up.

If this happens, where is C-USA going to promote from?

I guess University of West Florida better start getting ready.

(12-09-2022 09:51 AM)SENOREIDA Wrote:  Wouldn't this require a vote from the 10 current FBS conferences?

Seems like other leagues could push back. Or just not schedule them. This isn't the right way to become FBS.

Yikes. There needs to be some kind of minimum funding level in place for FBS schools to prevent stuff like this from happening.

Or some structure in place to let the FBS schools vote on pending moveups

(12-09-2022 09:45 AM)gdunn Wrote:  Hey look.. It's a CUSA feeder league.

It's also a league C-USA can be competitive with. Think of the epic matchups between Kenny Saw and Tarlyton State. No one will care mind you, but epic nonetheless!

(12-09-2022 09:49 AM)Yosef181 Wrote:  So why did Kennesaw State (ASUN), Jacksonville State (ASUN), and Sam Houston State (WAC) leave for C-USA? For a TV deal? To be with Liberty?

If this happens, there will be 17 FBS schools in Texas.

With 17 FBS teams and Texas’ 29.53 million population, that would come to an FBS team per 1.7 million people. This league would give Alabama a 7th FBS team. With Alabama’s 5.4 million population we’d have an FBS team per every 720K people.

It just feels like them getting ahead of the split that will come eventually. At some point the top 30-40 teams will form their own league so they can keep all of the money. At that point G5 becomes FCS, basically every division goes down a level.

Hey, UTSA, North Texas, Texas State, and Rice can finally be in that all Texas FBS league their fans have dreamed of...

(12-09-2022 10:08 AM)space orange Wrote:  

(12-09-2022 09:49 AM)Yosef181 Wrote:  So why did Kennesaw State (ASUN), Jacksonville State (ASUN), and Sam Houston State (WAC) leave for C-USA? For a TV deal? To be with Liberty?

If this happens, there will be 17 FBS schools in Texas.

I think the original plan was for the WAC to move up alone. But it looked like it wasn't as guaranteed of a plan as first thought. So these schools (particularly SHSU) likely decided to go for a sure thing when CUSA reached out rather than wait on the WAC maybe being able to move up.

https://twitter.com/MattBrownEP/status/1...3134548993

This answers it. You were right about a guarantee vs. a risk.

I'm gonna need to take out a loan to buy Phil Steele and all the other preview magazines.

(12-09-2022 11:10 AM)rokamortis Wrote:  

this is an intriguing point.

if the WAC pulls this off, do NMSU and Sam Houston bail on CUSA to join this new league?

What happened to all the attendance and fundraising requirements that they made us jump through to join the FBS? Some of these schools couldn’t out-fundraise my high school

Texas-Rio Grand
Tarleton State
Abeline Christian
Stephen F Austin
UTSA
Rice
North Texas
SMU
Texas State
UTEP
SHSU

Get UT Arlington on board, and maybe you have that Texas league.

I don't want to lose Texas State. Keep em here.

BTW, North Texas fans would still complain about this.

(12-09-2022 11:12 AM)Duke Dawg Wrote:  

(12-09-2022 11:10 AM)rokamortis Wrote:  

this is an intriguing point.

if the WAC pulls this off, do NMSU and Sam Houston bail on CUSA to join this new league?

No. Because this new league is going to be hot garbage for TV deal, as bad as cusa is it's as crazy as this sounds, a little bit more stable.

It's not like this new league is going to cut costs on travel, it still goes all the way from Utah to Kentucky.

(12-09-2022 09:40 AM)slycat Wrote:  Just feels like a bunch of teams the SBC is going to get stuck in really awful home and homes with.

Luckily Larry has the next 4 seasons of schedules pretty much fully booked. At least that is one thing we can say about him. After 2027 is when the non-conference schedule could really fall off the rails (openings for G5 away games) especially if/when Traylor leaves UTSA ends up becoming a laughingstock like TXST is currently. If it happened to UCF and O' Leary in 2015 when they went from 12 wins in '13 to 9 wins in 14' to 0 wins in 15' it can happen to anyone.

(12-09-2022 11:02 AM)chiefsfan Wrote:  Hey, UTSA, North Texas, Texas State, and Rice can finally be in that all Texas FBS league their fans have dreamed of...

StAte would finally have an in-state peer at the FBS level.