Let our AI overlords decide


In all seriousness, there has to be a human element involved but their input should be balanced with some objective metric like computer rankings/ analysis lest things get too biased.

(10-06-2022 08:02 AM)Milwaukee Wrote:  

(10-06-2022 07:05 AM)Bronco14 Wrote:  The 5 P5 champs, 2 at-larges, the top G5 team. That way committee's involved only in the 2 at-larges & possibly the G5 team.

5+2+1=8. Isn't it going to be a 12-team playoff?

Also, the committee would also be involved in seeding the playoff teams.

You started a thread re-opening questions that have been settled. So people are free to throw their preferred ideas out there, if it's vaguely connected to the Selection Committee vs Other Method question.

(10-06-2022 03:26 AM)Milwaukee Wrote:  

(10-05-2022 09:32 PM)TrojanCampaign Wrote:  

(10-05-2022 08:50 PM)NJMark Wrote:  

(10-05-2022 07:51 PM)Miami (Oh) Yeah ! Wrote:  Literally ANYTHING is better than a CFP Selection Committee.

Wasn't the premise of a football playoff to be "just like every other sport"? And isn't the playoff of every other NCAA sport determined by a committee?

Yeah, but it actually does seem fair for every sport except football.

DISAGREE. The NCAA men's basketball selection committee hasn't been fair at all.

Only 9 (24%) of the 37 at-large bids went to non-P5 teams in 2021. The other 28 (76%) were P5 teams.

What that means is that more than 3/4ths (76%) of the at-large bids went to 5 (16%) of the 31 conferences.

The selection committee put (#75) Michigan State into the NCAA tournament over (#31) Memphis, which they didn't give a bid.

You call that "fair?"

It was a lot fairer a decade ago (e.g., 1994 and 2000), when twice as many (33%) of the at-large bids went to teams from non-P5 conferences.

The selection committees have become more and more biased toward P5 teams in their selections of at-large teams over the past decade.

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There has been a shift in the last 5-10 years

(10-06-2022 03:26 AM)Milwaukee Wrote:  

(10-05-2022 09:32 PM)TrojanCampaign Wrote:  

(10-05-2022 08:50 PM)NJMark Wrote:  

(10-05-2022 07:51 PM)Miami (Oh) Yeah ! Wrote:  Literally ANYTHING is better than a CFP Selection Committee.

Wasn't the premise of a football playoff to be "just like every other sport"? And isn't the playoff of every other NCAA sport determined by a committee?

Yeah, but it actually does seem fair for every sport except football.

DISAGREE. The NCAA men's basketball selection committee hasn't been fair at all.

Only 9 (24%) of the 37 at-large bids went to non-P5 teams in 2021. The other 28 (76%) were P5 teams.

What that means is that more than 3/4ths (76%) of the at-large bids went to 5 (16%) of the 31 conferences.

The selection committee put (#75) Michigan State into the NCAA tournament over (#31) Memphis, which they didn't give a bid.

You call that "fair?"

It was a lot fairer a decade ago (e.g., 1994 and 2000), when twice as many (33%) of the at-large bids went to teams from non-P5 conferences.

The selection committees have become more and more biased toward P5 teams in their selections of at-large teams over the past decade.

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I think it's more that the strong programs have been concentrated into the top 6-7-8 leagues. Counting the AAC as a major conference, you've seen Louisville, Cincinnati, Houston, Memphis, DePaul, Marquette, Xavier, Butler, Creighton, Wichita State, Temple and soon BYU hoovered up.

And you have the A-10 grabbing anyone who shows something in basketball-- VCU, Loyola, Davidson, George Mason.

The American maybe doesn't get respect from the committee as a full scale power conference, but I think the situation is that there are fewer strong programs and less talent outside the P5+Big East (plus American, A-10). The Mountain West usually gets multiple bids, the WCC does sometimes.

I’m always abhorred having the selection committee for a 4 team playoff.

Arguable it isn’t that much different than the selection process for the NCAA basketball tournament. I think the main difference is that nobody except for the fans of the excluded “bubble teams” will care about who doesn’t get into a 68 team basketball tournament. The general attitude is that you should have had a better season and not been a bubble team if you wanted to get into the tournament.


But excluding teams from a 4 team playoff creates a lot more controversy. It’s a lot harder to say “You should have had a better season and been a clear top 4 team.”

FBS Pairwise.

(10-06-2022 09:01 AM)Huan Wrote:  Let our AI overlords decide


In all seriousness, there has to be a human element involved but their input should be balanced with some objective metric like computer rankings/ analysis lest things get too biased.

Yeah and the human element are football players playing on the gridiron, period the end…
Go Astros…

Yes. Move to a P3 where each conference had 4 divisions and let the divisional champs play it off!