(09-18-2022 09:11 AM)IslandHerd1 Wrote:  

(09-18-2022 09:04 AM)Sakatalonzo Wrote:  

(09-17-2022 09:52 PM)Dukes94 Wrote:  Hey, at least Liberty lost. Are we losing sight of our priorities here?

There's always next week, SBC.

Liberty Lost by 1 on the road to the # 19 team in the country, that has a future NFL QB. Tough loss but again Liberty is no push over. JMU has had pillow fights in their first 2 games. Your schedule gets real next week! Now we will all, see how good you really are.

Nobody cares about Liberty or Liberty’s “quality loss”.

Coastal fans do not like Liberty probably more than anybody on this board but the JMU fan did randomly bring them up and opened up a potential response from a Liberty fan.

Anyone of us would've probably responded if our school was thrown out there lol. Let's be real too.

(09-17-2022 10:33 PM)FidelCashflow18 Wrote:  

(09-17-2022 08:34 PM)WinstonTheWolf Wrote:  APP ST should be 0-3.

I can certainly see 1-2 but in no universe did we deserve to lose to A&M. We should have won by more if anything

The difference between winning and losing is always slim when good teams play each other. What separates good from really good is finding a way to push yourself over that edge, and yes, sometimes the opponent helps you out a little and blind luck doesn't hurt, either. You'd be hard pressed to find a national champion over the past 50 years that didn't win a game or 3 they just as easily could've lost.

The rest of the league 0-fered against the future AAC and lost to Bowling Green, but yeah, let's talk about how an App team that won at TAMU might not be as good as they appear.

(09-18-2022 09:20 AM)ericsaid Wrote:  

(09-18-2022 09:04 AM)Sakatalonzo Wrote:  

(09-17-2022 09:52 PM)Dukes94 Wrote:  Hey, at least Liberty lost. Are we losing sight of our priorities here?

There's always next week, SBC.

Liberty Lost by 1 on the road to the # 19 team in the country, that has a future NFL QB. Tough loss but again Liberty is no push over. JMU has had pillow fights in their first 2 games. Your schedule gets real next week! Now we will all, see how good you really are.

Are you admitting App is a solid team? Seems the Jacksonville State guys (ouch) and Liberty people on the C-USA board love to say "what has App actually done?".

I had a parlay with ODU, Liberty, and USA winning. Disappointment reigns supreme.

I give respect when its earn. APP STATE is a solid program.

(09-18-2022 09:46 AM)Herd-in-ATL Wrote:  

(09-18-2022 09:04 AM)Sakatalonzo Wrote:  

(09-17-2022 09:52 PM)Dukes94 Wrote:  Hey, at least Liberty lost. Are we losing sight of our priorities here?

There's always next week, SBC.

Liberty Lost by 1 on the road to the # 19 team in the country, that has a future NFL QB. Tough loss but again Liberty is no push over. JMU has had pillow fights in their first 2 games. Your schedule gets real next week! Now we will all, see how good you really are.

I had a chance to watch part of the game, Liberty looked very impressive. Don't know what happened at the end as every time I switched over to watch Liberty was leading.

We went for the upset. Good play call and it was there. Hope the WR learns from it and see the open guy next time.

(09-18-2022 09:59 AM)HarborPointe Wrote:  

(09-17-2022 10:33 PM)FidelCashflow18 Wrote:  

(09-17-2022 08:34 PM)WinstonTheWolf Wrote:  APP ST should be 0-3.

I can certainly see 1-2 but in no universe did we deserve to lose to A&M. We should have won by more if anything

The difference between winning and losing is always slim when good teams play each other. What separates good from really good is finding a way to push yourself over that edge, and yes, sometimes the opponent helps you out a little and blind luck doesn't hurt, either. You'd be hard pressed to find a national champion over the past 50 years that didn't win a game or 3 they just as easily could've lost.

The rest of the league 0-fered against the MAC and future AAC, but yeah, let's talk about how an App team that won at TAMU might not be as good as they appear.

Coastal beat a MAC school. It wasn't pretty but they still won.

(09-18-2022 09:11 AM)IslandHerd1 Wrote:  

(09-18-2022 09:04 AM)Sakatalonzo Wrote:  

(09-17-2022 09:52 PM)Dukes94 Wrote:  Hey, at least Liberty lost. Are we losing sight of our priorities here?

There's always next week, SBC.

Liberty Lost by 1 on the road to the # 19 team in the country, that has a future NFL QB. Tough loss but again Liberty is no push over. JMU has had pillow fights in their first 2 games. Your schedule gets real next week! Now we will all, see how good you really are.

Nobody cares about Liberty or Liberty’s “quality loss”.

Quality losses are important. When you begin to digest a Teams wins and losses,

1. Do they have good quality wins
2. Do they have good quality losses
3. Do they have bad losses


I mean losing to BG is a bad loss. Just like Liberty losing to ULM last year.

(09-18-2022 10:07 AM)TealNation Wrote:  

(09-18-2022 09:59 AM)HarborPointe Wrote:  

(09-17-2022 10:33 PM)FidelCashflow18 Wrote:  

(09-17-2022 08:34 PM)WinstonTheWolf Wrote:  APP ST should be 0-3.

I can certainly see 1-2 but in no universe did we deserve to lose to A&M. We should have won by more if anything

The difference between winning and losing is always slim when good teams play each other. What separates good from really good is finding a way to push yourself over that edge, and yes, sometimes the opponent helps you out a little and blind luck doesn't hurt, either. You'd be hard pressed to find a national champion over the past 50 years that didn't win a game or 3 they just as easily could've lost.

The rest of the league 0-fered against the MAC and future AAC, but yeah, let's talk about how an App team that won at TAMU might not be as good as they appear.

Coastal beat a MAC school. It wasn't pretty but they still won.

Ah, yes. Thanks. Even after 20-somthing years, I still forget Buffalo's in the MAC. I'll go fix that.

SEC teams use the "quality loss" pitch every year. "We lost to Alabama by 10."

Every loss in the SEC is good, unless you are blow out. That is one of the ways they stay rank. Let if be ones of us to lose a game, we would drop 1000 spots

There's a glass half full and glass half empty way to look at App.

On one hand, they are a dropped 2 point conversion pass from being 3-0

On the other, they are one decent A&M drive, and a Hail Mary from 0-3

(09-18-2022 10:17 AM)Sakatalonzo Wrote:  SEC teams use the "quality loss" pitch every year. "We lost to Alabama by 10."

Every loss in the SEC is good, unless you are blow out. That is one of the ways they stay rank. Let if be ones of us to lose a game, we would drop 1000 spots

It was a quality loss and you guys obviously had an impressive day that fell just short of being a lot more meaningful. It's just funny that the SBC has a rough day then some Liberty fans come over here beating their chests about it and about how Liberty almost didn't lose. Not you so much since you weren't totally unprovoked like others, you were responding to a little joke at your school's expense.

The entire SEC mocked Florida relentlessly last year for celebrating a moral victory against Alabama and look what Florida did the rest of the year. There's just a difference between pitching a quality loss as part of your full resume and beating your chest after a game you didn't even win.

(09-18-2022 09:20 AM)ericsaid Wrote:  

(09-18-2022 09:04 AM)Sakatalonzo Wrote:  

(09-17-2022 09:52 PM)Dukes94 Wrote:  Hey, at least Liberty lost. Are we losing sight of our priorities here?

There's always next week, SBC.

Liberty Lost by 1 on the road to the # 19 team in the country, that has a future NFL QB. Tough loss but again Liberty is no push over. JMU has had pillow fights in their first 2 games. Your schedule gets real next week! Now we will all, see how good you really are.

Are you admitting App is a solid team? Seems the Jacksonville State guys (ouch) and Liberty people on the C-USA board love to say "what has App actually done?".

I had a parlay with ODU, Liberty, and USA winning. Disappointment reigns supreme.

These guys are coming over here gloating because a couple of you (I’m not naming anyone but you know who you are) can’t keep yourselves off their boards. Nothing wrong with lurking but if you’re posting sun belt specific stuff constantly over there, you’re asking for this.

(09-17-2022 11:12 PM)space orange Wrote:  

(09-17-2022 10:33 PM)FidelCashflow18 Wrote:  

(09-17-2022 08:34 PM)WinstonTheWolf Wrote:  APP ST should be 0-3.

I can certainly see 1-2 but in no universe did we deserve to lose to A&M. We should have won by more if anything

Deserve to lose is too strong of wording. But all games were so close that App could be anywhere from 0-3 to 3-0 after this stretch.

Yet, here App is at 2-1. Because the conjecture doesn't matter, its not the off-season. I think App was far closer to beating UNC than to losing to Texas A&M. Anyone who watched the Texas A&M game in its entirety knows App was in control from the opening kick.

App could've lost the Troy game but some situational football came into play. That's a play App practices multiple days a week and it worked exactly as it was designed to. What is luck? When preparation meets opportunity.

(09-18-2022 10:41 AM)chiefsfan Wrote:  There's a glass half full and glass half empty way to look at App.

On one hand, they are a dropped 2 point conversion pass from being 3-0

On the other, they are one decent A&M drive, and a Hail Mary from 0-3

True, but we are neither of those. 2 and 1 is a good start for a good team with our starting schedule.

I feel that App still has a solid team and has a shot at the SBC title and a top 25 ranking. We may fall short but that’s the goal.

(09-18-2022 11:01 AM)ah59396 Wrote:  

(09-18-2022 09:20 AM)ericsaid Wrote:  

(09-18-2022 09:04 AM)Sakatalonzo Wrote:  

(09-17-2022 09:52 PM)Dukes94 Wrote:  Hey, at least Liberty lost. Are we losing sight of our priorities here?

There's always next week, SBC.

Liberty Lost by 1 on the road to the # 19 team in the country, that has a future NFL QB. Tough loss but again Liberty is no push over. JMU has had pillow fights in their first 2 games. Your schedule gets real next week! Now we will all, see how good you really are.

Are you admitting App is a solid team? Seems the Jacksonville State guys (ouch) and Liberty people on the C-USA board love to say "what has App actually done?".

I had a parlay with ODU, Liberty, and USA winning. Disappointment reigns supreme.

These guys are coming over here gloating because a couple of you (I’m not naming anyone but you know who you are) can’t keep yourselves off their boards. Nothing wrong with lurking but if you’re posting sun belt specific stuff constantly over there, you’re asking for this.

I'm not sure what they are gloating about though, they lost. App fans weren't gloating over losing to UNC. They were gloating over the Texas A&M game because of what the C-USA fans have been saying for some time now. Marshall fans were gloating because of the crap that was said about their program by the AAC 6 fans.

It's all in the spirit of competition so I'm fine with it. Most of the comments are not based in reality and it's much ado about nothing.

The reality is that the NY6 bids will be between the Sun Belt, AAC, and MWC more often than not. The new AAC schools still, delusional, believe the AAC is in even better position than before. That's obviously quite far from the truth. They have no Top 25 wins out of conference and have lost some FCS games I believe.

Meanwhile Marshall loses to Bowling Green in a rivalry game that has seen Marshall rarely do well in Kentucky. It's like App playing Georgia Southern, that may be the worst game they play all year.

Louisiana? New coach, entirely new support staff, exodus of talent, it was always going to be an adjustment.

Arkansas State losing to Memphis? That was as expected. Arkansas State is in full rebuild and the difference being only 11 points is actually encouraging.

ODU and USA? ODU was a victim of their own medicine and that's a shame; they almost won Virginia. USA coach Kane Womack over played his hand, as he's been shown to do the past 1.2 seasons and that's a shame because they had a shot at another statement win.

Georgia Southern losing to UAB? Again, another full rebuild situation, especially on defense. They are running a new scheme without the proper personnel and its showed up in all three of their games.

I'm not making excuses here. That's the reality of each of these teams. The Sun Belt trajectory is steeper than its ever been in spite of one bad week. Those conferences can use this moment to thump their chest.

(09-18-2022 10:59 AM)KickItToScotty Wrote:  

(09-18-2022 10:17 AM)Sakatalonzo Wrote:  SEC teams use the "quality loss" pitch every year. "We lost to Alabama by 10."

Every loss in the SEC is good, unless you are blow out. That is one of the ways they stay rank. Let if be ones of us to lose a game, we would drop 1000 spots

It was a quality loss and you guys obviously had an impressive day that fell just short of being a lot more meaningful. It's just funny that the SBC has a rough day then some Liberty fans come over here beating their chests about it and about how Liberty almost didn't lose. Not you so much since you weren't totally unprovoked like others, you were responding to a little joke at your school's expense.

The entire SEC mocked Florida relentlessly last year for celebrating a moral victory against Alabama and look what Florida did the rest of the year. There's just a difference between pitching a quality loss as part of your full resume and beating your chest after a game you didn't even win.

Hold on, We are not pumping our chest. I have looked over this entire board and not 1 LU fan has done it. Someone made a comment about how bad the conference did and that's about it. I personally responded to a JMU fan who took a shot at LU. Like I always say, Let's see what happens on the field.

Sunbelt had a bad day, P5's bad day was last week. Every has them. Just be able to take crap from others, if you are going to scream from the mountain top that you are great. Trust me I know, Liberty has great games and then they suck. I've learned to give my opinion and then let them prove it.

Once again.... APP STATE... down let me down!

(09-18-2022 12:14 PM)Sakatalonzo Wrote:  

(09-18-2022 10:59 AM)KickItToScotty Wrote:  

(09-18-2022 10:17 AM)Sakatalonzo Wrote:  SEC teams use the "quality loss" pitch every year. "We lost to Alabama by 10."

Every loss in the SEC is good, unless you are blow out. That is one of the ways they stay rank. Let if be ones of us to lose a game, we would drop 1000 spots

It was a quality loss and you guys obviously had an impressive day that fell just short of being a lot more meaningful. It's just funny that the SBC has a rough day then some Liberty fans come over here beating their chests about it and about how Liberty almost didn't lose. Not you so much since you weren't totally unprovoked like others, you were responding to a little joke at your school's expense.

The entire SEC mocked Florida relentlessly last year for celebrating a moral victory against Alabama and look what Florida did the rest of the year. There's just a difference between pitching a quality loss as part of your full resume and beating your chest after a game you didn't even win.

Hold on, We are not pumping our chest. I have looked over this entire board and not 1 LU fan has done it. Someone made a comment about how bad the conference did and that's about it. I personally responded to a JMU fan who took a shot at LU. Like I always say, Let's see what happens on the field.

Sunbelt had a bad day, P5's bad day was last week. Every has them. Just be able to take crap from others, if you are going to scream from the mountain top that you are great. Trust me I know, Liberty has great games and then they suck. I've learned to give my opinion and then let them prove it.

Once again.... APP STATE... down let me down!

You say no one is beating their chests while you are over on the Marshall game thread beating your chest about Liberty being the next Boise State and playing three ranked teams lol. That other dude is constantly over here stirring **** up and derailing thread after thread beating his chest about Liberty and pretending he has no clue why conferences don't want them. Then when the SBC has a bad day and Liberty lost their game he's immediately over here to gloat.

I don't know, I'm not the type to go gloat on another team's or conference's board anyway. But if I was, I wouldn't do it on a day that JMU lost. I don't care if it was a one point loss to Alabama.

(09-17-2022 08:29 PM)Riverrunner Wrote:  Teams and coaches at these Power 5 schools have learned they must game plan the Sun Belt teams. Once upon a time that didn't happen.

Week 2 of the 2022 season was a banner weekend for the Sun Belt, but to say that this conference didn't win P5 games "once upon a time" is patently false. In the fourteen years of SBC 1.0 the conference took down 17 P5 opponents.

2001 Middle Tennesee 37 Vandy 28
2002 Middle Tennessee 21 Vandy 20
2004 Troy 24 Missouri 14
2005 Middle Tennessee 17 Vandy 15
2007 FAU 42 Minnesota 39
2007 Troy 41 Oklahoma State 23
2007 ULM 21 Alabama 14
2008 Arkansas State 18 Texas A&M 14
2008 Middle Tennessee 24 Maryland 14
2009 Louisiana 17 Kansas State 15
2009 Middle Tennessee 32 Maryland 31
2012 Middle Tennessee 49 Georgia Tech 28
2012 ULM 34 Arkansas 31
2012 Western Kentucky 32 Kentucky 31
2013 ULM 21 Wake Forest 19
2013 Western Kentucky 35 Kentucky 26
2014 ULM 17 Wake Forest 10

(09-18-2022 01:50 PM)MTPiKapp Wrote:  

(09-17-2022 08:29 PM)Riverrunner Wrote:  Teams and coaches at these Power 5 schools have learned they must game plan the Sun Belt teams. Once upon a time that didn't happen.

Week 2 of the 2022 season was a banner weekend for the Sun Belt, but to say that this conference didn't win P5 games "once upon a time" is patently false. In the fourteen years of SBC 1.0 the conference took down 17 P5 opponents.

2001 Middle Tennesee 37 Vandy 28
2002 Middle Tennessee 21 Vandy 20
2004 Troy 24 Missouri 14
2005 Middle Tennessee 17 Vandy 15
2007 FAU 42 Minnesota 39
2007 Troy 41 Oklahoma State 23
2007 ULM 21 Alabama 14
2008 Arkansas State 18 Texas A&M 14
2008 Middle Tennessee 24 Maryland 14
2009 Louisiana 17 Kansas State 15
2009 Middle Tennessee 32 Maryland 31
2012 Middle Tennessee 49 Georgia Tech 28
2012 ULM 34 Arkansas 31
2012 Western Kentucky 32 Kentucky 31
2013 ULM 21 Wake Forest 19
2013 Western Kentucky 35 Kentucky 26
2014 ULM 17 Wake Forest 10

You have to admit that one per year is pretty lame for a FBS conference when everybody plays at least one P5 and some ply 2 P5 teams.

This year has been the pinnacle for the Sun Belt and part of that is from teams that were never in the Sun Belt before now. ODU beats Va Tech, Marshall beats Notre Dame. There is still one more limited chance from a newby with transitioning JMU at Louisville.

The history of the conference is poor. The future is much brighter with the additions

(09-18-2022 05:48 PM)Hart Foundation Wrote:  

(09-18-2022 01:50 PM)MTPiKapp Wrote:  

(09-17-2022 08:29 PM)Riverrunner Wrote:  Teams and coaches at these Power 5 schools have learned they must game plan the Sun Belt teams. Once upon a time that didn't happen.

Week 2 of the 2022 season was a banner weekend for the Sun Belt, but to say that this conference didn't win P5 games "once upon a time" is patently false. In the fourteen years of SBC 1.0 the conference took down 17 P5 opponents.

2001 Middle Tennesee 37 Vandy 28
2002 Middle Tennessee 21 Vandy 20
2004 Troy 24 Missouri 14
2005 Middle Tennessee 17 Vandy 15
2007 FAU 42 Minnesota 39
2007 Troy 41 Oklahoma State 23
2007 ULM 21 Alabama 14
2008 Arkansas State 18 Texas A&M 14
2008 Middle Tennessee 24 Maryland 14
2009 Louisiana 17 Kansas State 15
2009 Middle Tennessee 32 Maryland 31
2012 Middle Tennessee 49 Georgia Tech 28
2012 ULM 34 Arkansas 31
2012 Western Kentucky 32 Kentucky 31
2013 ULM 21 Wake Forest 19
2013 Western Kentucky 35 Kentucky 26
2014 ULM 17 Wake Forest 10

You have to admit that one per year is pretty lame for a FBS conference when everybody plays at least one P5 and some ply 2 P5 teams.

This year has been the pinnacle for the Sun Belt and part of that is from teams that were never in the Sun Belt before now. ODU beats Va Tech, Marshall beats Notre Dame. There is still one more limited chance from a newby with transitioning JMU at Louisville.

The history of the conference is poor. The future is much brighter with the additions

SBC 1.0 got three in a season twice, two in a season three times, y'all have a few more shots to add a fourth(or more for the first time) time will tell if you continue to win multiple P5 games each and every year. There's no denying the Sun Belt appears to be at its highest point, but it was simply inaccurate to say there was a time where the Belt didn't win P5 games.

(09-18-2022 06:49 PM)MTPiKapp Wrote:  

(09-18-2022 05:48 PM)Hart Foundation Wrote:  

(09-18-2022 01:50 PM)MTPiKapp Wrote:  

(09-17-2022 08:29 PM)Riverrunner Wrote:  Teams and coaches at these Power 5 schools have learned they must game plan the Sun Belt teams. Once upon a time that didn't happen.

Week 2 of the 2022 season was a banner weekend for the Sun Belt, but to say that this conference didn't win P5 games "once upon a time" is patently false. In the fourteen years of SBC 1.0 the conference took down 17 P5 opponents.

2001 Middle Tennesee 37 Vandy 28
2002 Middle Tennessee 21 Vandy 20
2004 Troy 24 Missouri 14
2005 Middle Tennessee 17 Vandy 15
2007 FAU 42 Minnesota 39
2007 Troy 41 Oklahoma State 23
2007 ULM 21 Alabama 14
2008 Arkansas State 18 Texas A&M 14
2008 Middle Tennessee 24 Maryland 14
2009 Louisiana 17 Kansas State 15
2009 Middle Tennessee 32 Maryland 31
2012 Middle Tennessee 49 Georgia Tech 28
2012 ULM 34 Arkansas 31
2012 Western Kentucky 32 Kentucky 31
2013 ULM 21 Wake Forest 19
2013 Western Kentucky 35 Kentucky 26
2014 ULM 17 Wake Forest 10

You have to admit that one per year is pretty lame for a FBS conference when everybody plays at least one P5 and some ply 2 P5 teams.

This year has been the pinnacle for the Sun Belt and part of that is from teams that were never in the Sun Belt before now. ODU beats Va Tech, Marshall beats Notre Dame. There is still one more limited chance from a newby with transitioning JMU at Louisville.

The history of the conference is poor. The future is much brighter with the additions

SBC 1.0 got three in a season twice, two in a season three times, y'all have a few more shots to add a fourth(or more for the first time) time will tell if you continue to win multiple P5 games each and every year. There's no denying the Sun Belt appears to be at its highest point, but it was simply inaccurate to say there was a time where the Belt didn't win P5 games.