(08-28-2022 09:41 AM)Fighting Muskie Wrote:  

(08-27-2022 03:49 PM)jcohen42 Wrote:  Always thought FDU would be a good fit for the MAAC, basketball-first program that's had some conference success in the past. Hope it's them.

FDU isn’t Catholic; I’m not sure if that’s a deal breaker for the MAAC or not.

If I’m the MAAC, I’d be weary of adding anyone with a football program

FDU plays football in division 3, if I were the MAAC I wouldn't be too worried about it.

(08-30-2022 02:14 PM)UpStreamRedTeam Wrote:  

(08-28-2022 09:41 AM)Fighting Muskie Wrote:  

(08-27-2022 03:49 PM)jcohen42 Wrote:  Always thought FDU would be a good fit for the MAAC, basketball-first program that's had some conference success in the past. Hope it's them.

FDU isn’t Catholic; I’m not sure if that’s a deal breaker for the MAAC or not.

If I’m the MAAC, I’d be weary of adding anyone with a football program

FDU plays football in division 3, if I were the MAAC I wouldn't be too worried about it.

That's the other FDU campus.

(08-27-2022 04:49 AM)PeteTheChop Wrote:  

(08-26-2022 10:55 PM)IWokeUpLikeThis Wrote:  As of next week, SFC’s campus will have been relocated to Floors 5-7 above a Macy’s.

Who needs Amazon when you can walk down one flight of stairs to a department store?

Great recruiting tool for student-athletes with a shopping addiction

...Lordy, don't let my daughter see this post... ...not an athlete, unless shopping is now an Olympic sport...

I think Le Moyne might be the attractive school for MAAC.

https://www.syracuse.com/sports/2022/05/...chool.html

Not looking to promising for the MAAC to take a D2 upgrade

(08-30-2022 01:55 PM)Blue_Trombone Wrote:  

(08-26-2022 09:37 PM)GreatDane96 Wrote:  

(08-26-2022 08:32 PM)solohawks Wrote:  Farleigh Dickinson and St. Francis Brooklyn are the last 2 non football members in the NEC. If they don't wanna upgrade a D2 school, those 2 would make sense. The MAAC commish specifically noted that Monmouth moved because of football, so would they wanna add a school with football who might make a move again in the future?

St. Francis of Brooklyn is likely to drop sports all together in the next 2-5 years. Here is their current "Campus". They share the building with corporations and a MACY's department store. The school has the 5th, 6th, and 7th floors of the building. The school is cooked:

Eh, SFC has always been a pretty wonky school campus wise. Their previous campus was in a hodge-podge of buildings that fit on one Brooklyn city block. I'm pretty sure that they're gonna be growing the amount of academic space with this move. Not sure what will happen with their athletic facilities, but I would be surprised if they dropped athletics altogether.

EDIT: So I just checked and it seems it's going to be in a smaller space than before, but they are still hoping to grow their enrollment.

St. Johns was on a single block, including their gym until they moved out to Queens. One reason they played games at MSG was that the gym was so small.

Someone had donated the land before streets had even been laid out. For their grand opening in 1868 they invited people out to see the campus site. There was no bridge from Manhattan at the time, let alone one that you could buy. The crowds were told to catch special excursion trolley cars out from the ferry landings to view the site.

They began the move out to Queens in 1955. In 1971 they merged with Notre Dame College, a private women's college on Staten Island. This past month they announced closure of their Staten Island campus which had dwindled to less than 1000 students from a peak of around 2000 in 2001.

(08-30-2022 06:53 PM)solohawks Wrote:  https://www.syracuse.com/sports/2022/05/...chool.html

Not looking to promising for the MAAC to take a D2 upgrade

The articles that I read before this one that the MAAC is really interested in Le Moyne. They seemed to have the better facilities than some of the D1 schools. FDU is having issues right now that may hampered them from joining a new conference. Le Moyne also do not have football like some schools in the NEC either. FDU really have not been brought up as an expansion candidate before for the MAAC. Just some wishful thinking people on message boards.

I saw a LeMoyne lacrosse player at Costco today. He said the university is supposed to announce this week if they are going D-1 or staying D-2.

(08-30-2022 04:50 PM)GreenFreakUAB Wrote:  

(08-27-2022 04:49 AM)PeteTheChop Wrote:  

(08-26-2022 10:55 PM)IWokeUpLikeThis Wrote:  As of next week, SFC’s campus will have been relocated to Floors 5-7 above a Macy’s.

Who needs Amazon when you can walk down one flight of stairs to a department store?

Great recruiting tool for student-athletes with a shopping addiction

...Lordy, don't let my daughter see this post... ...not an athlete, unless shopping is now an Olympic sport...

Is your daughter/your family Catholic?? If not, maybe you have nothing to worry about. If she is, don't let her see this thread, lol!! Seriously though, I have a lot of respect for some Catholics. I will never forget one mass I attended with a Catholic friend. It was in the inner city, but the people there were amazing!!!! The priest was Franciscan, and although he didn't have a car to help out my Catholic friend whose car broke down, he asked a deacon who did have a car to help us. Lots of joy in that church. More than I can say for a many Protestant churches I have been to. Sounds like this Catholic school has some determination as well. I like that.

Last *good* update I've gotten about MAAC expansion is that the main targets believed league presidents wanted to agree upon a new commissioner before they continued in the team evaluation process. Rich's retirement wasn't a secret to any of the presidents (I've known since July, which means I'm sure they knew before that), so I would expect somebody else to be named this quarter.

I've always been told that the league presidents would strongly prefer to *NOT* add a reclassifying DII school, although they haven't completely ruled it out. I've also been told they're willing to expand their geographic footprint for the right candidate. I know Le Moyne would love to be in this league, but based on what I know now, I imagine a current NEC squad is probably the safer bet.

(08-31-2022 07:04 PM)jimrtex Wrote:  

(08-30-2022 01:55 PM)Blue_Trombone Wrote:  

(08-26-2022 09:37 PM)GreatDane96 Wrote:  

(08-26-2022 08:32 PM)solohawks Wrote:  Farleigh Dickinson and St. Francis Brooklyn are the last 2 non football members in the NEC. If they don't wanna upgrade a D2 school, those 2 would make sense. The MAAC commish specifically noted that Monmouth moved because of football, so would they wanna add a school with football who might make a move again in the future?

St. Francis of Brooklyn is likely to drop sports all together in the next 2-5 years. Here is their current "Campus". They share the building with corporations and a MACY's department store. The school has the 5th, 6th, and 7th floors of the building. The school is cooked:

Eh, SFC has always been a pretty wonky school campus wise. Their previous campus was in a hodge-podge of buildings that fit on one Brooklyn city block. I'm pretty sure that they're gonna be growing the amount of academic space with this move. Not sure what will happen with their athletic facilities, but I would be surprised if they dropped athletics altogether.

EDIT: So I just checked and it seems it's going to be in a smaller space than before, but they are still hoping to grow their enrollment.

St. Johns was on a single block, including their gym until they moved out to Queens. One reason they played games at MSG was that the gym was so small.

Someone had donated the land before streets had even been laid out. For their grand opening in 1868 they invited people out to see the campus site. There was no bridge from Manhattan at the time, let alone one that you could buy. The crowds were told to catch special excursion trolley cars out from the ferry landings to view the site.

They began the move out to Queens in 1955. In 1971 they merged with Notre Dame College, a private women's college on Staten Island. This past month they announced closure of their Staten Island campus which had dwindled to less than 1000 students from a peak of around 2000 in 2001.

Very familiar with St. John's (I was a ball boy in hoops and attended camps there for my childhood) and their story. As someone who is also familiar with the St. Francis story (I grew up next to the university) and with staffers at the school, I can tell you it is much more likely they will drop athletics to DIII, NAIA, or totally...before they go to the MAAC. It's been discussed this year.

(09-01-2022 10:43 AM)MattBrownEP Wrote:  Last *good* update I've gotten about MAAC expansion is that the main targets believed league presidents wanted to agree upon a new commissioner before they continued in the team evaluation process. Rich's retirement wasn't a secret to any of the presidents (I've known since July, which means I'm sure they knew before that), so I would expect somebody else to be named this quarter.

I've always been told that the league presidents would strongly prefer to *NOT* add a reclassifying DII school, although they haven't completely ruled it out. I've also been told they're willing to expand their geographic footprint for the right candidate. I know Le Moyne would love to be in this league, but based on what I know now, I imagine a current NEC squad is probably the safer bet.

Would the MAAC prefer a school that does not have football or are they indifferent about it? Did Monmouth leaving for football reasons impact their thinking?

(08-30-2022 01:01 PM)ccd494 Wrote:  Iona adding men's lacrosse: https://www.usalaxmagazine.com/college/m...demic-year

I think they want a spot in the A10. This at least keeps them up closer to Siena.

(09-01-2022 01:21 PM)The Cutter of Bish Wrote:  

(08-30-2022 01:01 PM)ccd494 Wrote:  Iona adding men's lacrosse: https://www.usalaxmagazine.com/college/m...demic-year

I think they want a spot in the A10. This at least keeps them up closer to Siena.

Definitely a positioning ploy by Iona--very much discussed in Lax circles right now. However, neither SIENA or Iona are going to the A-10. They are both financially strung up right now. Siena at least has the arena for it. This is all because the MAAC has publicly stated that they would like to increase the profile of Lax for the league as it sits smack dab in the heart of lax country.

From Iona's perspective, it will bring in around 1.3-1.6 million in yearly, and dearly needed, revenue if you calculate around 38k per student.

The MAAC will jettison LIU, Sacred Heart, and Wagner in 2024 from the lax league, bringing them back down to 7, and they will likely add a 12th all-sport team. With Iona coming in for lax in 2025, that gives the league 8 teams...and the 12th team will bring in a 9th team. It is the perfect amount of teams to give you 8 games and 6-7 OOC games.

(09-01-2022 12:31 PM)solohawks Wrote:  

(09-01-2022 10:43 AM)MattBrownEP Wrote:  Last *good* update I've gotten about MAAC expansion is that the main targets believed league presidents wanted to agree upon a new commissioner before they continued in the team evaluation process. Rich's retirement wasn't a secret to any of the presidents (I've known since July, which means I'm sure they knew before that), so I would expect somebody else to be named this quarter.

I've always been told that the league presidents would strongly prefer to *NOT* add a reclassifying DII school, although they haven't completely ruled it out. I've also been told they're willing to expand their geographic footprint for the right candidate. I know Le Moyne would love to be in this league, but based on what I know now, I imagine a current NEC squad is probably the safer bet.

Would the MAAC prefer a school that does not have football or are they indifferent about it? Did Monmouth leaving for football reasons impact their thinking?

Why would anyone think Monmouth left for football? Football is a huge component, of course, but they could have kept going in the Big South. The move for Monmouth was to upgrade their profile academically, get into a MUCH better all-sport conference, and increase overall student population recruitment in the South...and football of course was an added bonus. But they definitely didn't move to the CAA for football as the primary driver.

(09-01-2022 10:35 PM)GreatDane96 Wrote:  

(09-01-2022 01:21 PM)The Cutter of Bish Wrote:  

(08-30-2022 01:01 PM)ccd494 Wrote:  Iona adding men's lacrosse: https://www.usalaxmagazine.com/college/m...demic-year

I think they want a spot in the A10. This at least keeps them up closer to Siena.

Definitely a positioning ploy by Iona--very much discussed in Lax circles right now. However, neither SIENA or Iona are going to the A-10. They are both financially strung up right now. Siena at least has the arena for it. This is all because the MAAC has publicly stated that they would like to increase the profile of Lax for the league as it sits smack dab in the heart of lax country.

From Iona's perspective, it will bring in around 1.3-1.6 million in yearly, and dearly needed, revenue if you calculate around 38k per student.

The MAAC will jettison LIU, Sacred Heart, and Wagner in 2024 from the lax league, bringing them back down to 7, and they will likely add a 12th all-sport team. With Iona coming in for lax in 2025, that gives the league 8 teams...and the 12th team will bring in a 9th team. It is the perfect amount of teams to give you 8 games and 6-7 OOC games.

Le Moyne does have LAX. The only school in the NEC that have LAX without football is Saint Joseph's.

Marist has football and is no longer Catholic

(09-02-2022 05:24 AM)DavidSt Wrote:  

(09-01-2022 10:35 PM)GreatDane96 Wrote:  

(09-01-2022 01:21 PM)The Cutter of Bish Wrote:  

(08-30-2022 01:01 PM)ccd494 Wrote:  Iona adding men's lacrosse: https://www.usalaxmagazine.com/college/m...demic-year

I think they want a spot in the A10. This at least keeps them up closer to Siena.

Definitely a positioning ploy by Iona--very much discussed in Lax circles right now. However, neither SIENA or Iona are going to the A-10. They are both financially strung up right now. Siena at least has the arena for it. This is all because the MAAC has publicly stated that they would like to increase the profile of Lax for the league as it sits smack dab in the heart of lax country.

From Iona's perspective, it will bring in around 1.3-1.6 million in yearly, and dearly needed, revenue if you calculate around 38k per student.

The MAAC will jettison LIU, Sacred Heart, and Wagner in 2024 from the lax league, bringing them back down to 7, and they will likely add a 12th all-sport team. With Iona coming in for lax in 2025, that gives the league 8 teams...and the 12th team will bring in a 9th team. It is the perfect amount of teams to give you 8 games and 6-7 OOC games.

Le Moyne does have LAX. The only school in the NEC that have LAX without football is Saint Joseph's.

Le Moyne just doesn't have lax...they have some of the best lax in the country, even at D2. That's what really could push the to the MAAC but they are likely fourth on the MAAC list-- ahead are Wagner, Sacred Heart, and Merrimack on the "likely" wishlist. But yeah, I agree...their lax fits right now in the MAAC.

As for St. Joes, they are NOT in the MAAC--they are in the A-10 lacrosse league.

(09-01-2022 10:37 PM)GreatDane96 Wrote:  

(09-01-2022 12:31 PM)solohawks Wrote:  

(09-01-2022 10:43 AM)MattBrownEP Wrote:  Last *good* update I've gotten about MAAC expansion is that the main targets believed league presidents wanted to agree upon a new commissioner before they continued in the team evaluation process. Rich's retirement wasn't a secret to any of the presidents (I've known since July, which means I'm sure they knew before that), so I would expect somebody else to be named this quarter.

I've always been told that the league presidents would strongly prefer to *NOT* add a reclassifying DII school, although they haven't completely ruled it out. I've also been told they're willing to expand their geographic footprint for the right candidate. I know Le Moyne would love to be in this league, but based on what I know now, I imagine a current NEC squad is probably the safer bet.

Would the MAAC prefer a school that does not have football or are they indifferent about it? Did Monmouth leaving for football reasons impact their thinking?

Why would anyone think Monmouth left for football? Football is a huge component, of course, but they could have kept going in the Big South. The move for Monmouth was to upgrade their profile academically, get into a MUCH better all-sport conference, and increase overall student population recruitment in the South...and football of course was an added bonus. But they definitely didn't move to the CAA for football as the primary driver.

That's what the MAAC commissioner said in the article I posted

(09-02-2022 10:23 AM)solohawks Wrote:  

(09-01-2022 10:37 PM)GreatDane96 Wrote:  

(09-01-2022 12:31 PM)solohawks Wrote:  

(09-01-2022 10:43 AM)MattBrownEP Wrote:  Last *good* update I've gotten about MAAC expansion is that the main targets believed league presidents wanted to agree upon a new commissioner before they continued in the team evaluation process. Rich's retirement wasn't a secret to any of the presidents (I've known since July, which means I'm sure they knew before that), so I would expect somebody else to be named this quarter.

I've always been told that the league presidents would strongly prefer to *NOT* add a reclassifying DII school, although they haven't completely ruled it out. I've also been told they're willing to expand their geographic footprint for the right candidate. I know Le Moyne would love to be in this league, but based on what I know now, I imagine a current NEC squad is probably the safer bet.

Would the MAAC prefer a school that does not have football or are they indifferent about it? Did Monmouth leaving for football reasons impact their thinking?

Why would anyone think Monmouth left for football? Football is a huge component, of course, but they could have kept going in the Big South. The move for Monmouth was to upgrade their profile academically, get into a MUCH better all-sport conference, and increase overall student population recruitment in the South...and football of course was an added bonus. But they definitely didn't move to the CAA for football as the primary driver.

That's what the MAAC commissioner said in the article I posted

Ensor will say just about anything. They did not leave because of football, no matter what Ensor says.