(08-22-2022 02:57 PM)Boca Rocket Wrote:  

(08-22-2022 02:21 PM)TampaRocket Wrote:  

(08-22-2022 02:08 PM)UofToledoFans Wrote:  Lots of these players take nutrition classes if they are in the sports medicine program. Not sure how many of our guys have that major anymore but it used to be right behind crim justice and communications in prevelancy. It may not be mandated, but its tough to believe its all BIg MACs and pizza outside of the Larimer. Calories in general are important when putting on weight. Very gaudy amounts of them. I wouldnt blame an injury or two on one thing like eating healthy. Even if it contributes.

Berg has been hurt damn near every year since high school and IN high school. Just isnt built for the wear and tear of the position IMO. Rehab is key. Football players tend to rush it.

We had it much better in the early 90's and it wasn't great then. Have you ever seen the food they send them home with after games...a large Marcos pizza. Can't complain about free food, but I promise you, they are not getting anything nutritious. Just an observation...no dog in the fight any more.

Should provide post practice/game meals.

The past 2 years they had a local lady that was making homemade meals for the team...they would get them every so often. Typically, something like your Grandma would make...chicken and dumplings, meatloaf, spaghetti, etc...great for hitting the couch for a big nap afterwards.

(08-22-2022 02:05 PM)pono Wrote:  

(08-22-2022 11:51 AM)BrianNowicki Wrote:  

(08-22-2022 08:57 AM)TampaRocket Wrote:  On the flip side, their nutrition program is non-existent.

^ This! Nutrition plays a huge role in preventing and recovering from injuries and this has been a problem at UT, and many schools for years.

Agreed, I know TK has trended towards better nutrition for men's hoops, but in the past it was pretty bad. I remember a post tournament game where I had access to the locker room and the guys were eating pizza and soda as their last meal of the day with a late afternoon game coming up the next day.

With football lots of NFL guys are on specialized diets. The Ravens and Titans squads are typically about 20% vegan with private chefs. Plus, there's the element of food intolerance as most people don't properly digest some common foods, however, they often don't realize it unless they work with a good nutritionist.

My doctor told me that.

Just because you're ingesting vitamin A, doesn't man the body is processing the vitamin A as it should, for example. Hence enzymes and stuff.

(08-22-2022 03:30 PM)eastisbest Wrote:  

(08-22-2022 02:05 PM)pono Wrote:  

(08-22-2022 11:51 AM)BrianNowicki Wrote:  

(08-22-2022 08:57 AM)TampaRocket Wrote:  On the flip side, their nutrition program is non-existent.

^ This! Nutrition plays a huge role in preventing and recovering from injuries and this has been a problem at UT, and many schools for years.

Agreed, I know TK has trended towards better nutrition for men's hoops, but in the past it was pretty bad. I remember a post tournament game where I had access to the locker room and the guys were eating pizza and soda as their last meal of the day with a late afternoon game coming up the next day.

With football lots of NFL guys are on specialized diets. The Ravens and Titans squads are typically about 20% vegan with private chefs. Plus, there's the element of food intolerance as most people don't properly digest some common foods, however, they often don't realize it unless they work with a good nutritionist.

My doctor told me that.

Just because you're ingesting vitamin A, doesn't man the body is processing the vitamin A as it should, for example. Hence enzymes and stuff.

Body stores vitamin A . It needs zinc to release it from the liver and fat stores. Then you have the conversion of beta carotene into Vitamin A, but only enough to meet the body's needs.

(08-22-2022 07:52 PM)Boca Rocket Wrote:  

(08-22-2022 03:30 PM)eastisbest Wrote:  

(08-22-2022 02:05 PM)pono Wrote:  

(08-22-2022 11:51 AM)BrianNowicki Wrote:  

(08-22-2022 08:57 AM)TampaRocket Wrote:  On the flip side, their nutrition program is non-existent.

^ This! Nutrition plays a huge role in preventing and recovering from injuries and this has been a problem at UT, and many schools for years.

Agreed, I know TK has trended towards better nutrition for men's hoops, but in the past it was pretty bad. I remember a post tournament game where I had access to the locker room and the guys were eating pizza and soda as their last meal of the day with a late afternoon game coming up the next day.

With football lots of NFL guys are on specialized diets. The Ravens and Titans squads are typically about 20% vegan with private chefs. Plus, there's the element of food intolerance as most people don't properly digest some common foods, however, they often don't realize it unless they work with a good nutritionist.

My doctor told me that.

Just because you're ingesting vitamin A, doesn't man the body is processing the vitamin A as it should, for example. Hence enzymes and stuff.

Body stores vitamin A . It needs zinc to release it from the liver and fat stores. Then you have the conversion of beta carotene into Vitamin A, but only enough to meet the body's needs.

Interesting to know. Using vitamin A as an example to tell the story. I don't think he actually said any particular vitamin but was speaking in general. As I was trying to eat right is how the conversation came up. The medical problem doesn't always lie in what you eat but what you can't process.

I play it safe. Pure pizza rolls and beer diet. I figure that includes all the necessarys and things needed to process them.

Post game meals are rejuvinators for the thousands of calories they just gave up. Paired with a protein bar and banana at halftime... The kids are treated fine.

Every team who goes to NIU gets Chicago pizza and every team who goes to Buffalo gets Buffalo wings. Post game meals are a bad judge at nutrition.

(08-22-2022 02:08 PM)UofToledoFans Wrote:  Lots of these players take nutrition classes if they are in the sports medicine program. Not sure how many of our guys have that major anymore but it used to be right behind crim justice and communications in prevelancy. It may not be mandated, but its tough to believe its all BIg MACs and pizza outside of the Larimer. Calories in general are important when putting on weight. Very gaudy amounts of them. I wouldnt blame an injury or two on one thing like eating healthy. Even if it contributes.

Berg has been hurt damn near every year since high school and IN high school. Just isnt built for the wear and tear of the position IMO. Rehab is key. Football players tend to rush it.

Not sure if those nutrition classes are any good nowadays, but they used to be a waste.

Doesn't matter what meal it is, even post game, it matters what you are putting in your body. As someone else eluded to, some foods cause inflammation in the body and affect some people worse than others. Inflammation in the body has a huge impact on injuries and recovery from injuries. Some people cannot eat something as healthy sounding as baby spinach for instance, because the high number of oxalates in it causes inflammation in their body, while others can eat a lot of spinach without a problem. Food in general has a huge impact on endurance and recovery.

(08-23-2022 01:26 PM)BrianNowicki Wrote:  Doesn't matter what meal it is, even post game, it matters what you are putting in your body. As someone else eluded to, some foods cause inflammation in the body and affect some people worse than others. Inflammation in the body has a huge impact on injuries and recovery from injuries. Some people cannot eat something as healthy sounding as baby spinach for instance, because the high number of oxalates in it causes inflammation in their body, while others can eat a lot of spinach without a problem. Food in general has a huge impact on endurance and recovery.

And like I said, depending on the trip... every team in Americas post game meal is a bad carb load. Even Alabama. They may get weird shakes and pills with their pre game meal and electrolyte soup with 40dollar protein bars... But in Nashville, Austin, and Kansas city theyre getting bbq. My point is the post game meal is a bad example because NO ones is healthy for that one meal a week.

(08-23-2022 02:39 PM)UofToledoFans Wrote:  

(08-23-2022 01:26 PM)BrianNowicki Wrote:  Doesn't matter what meal it is, even post game, it matters what you are putting in your body. As someone else eluded to, some foods cause inflammation in the body and affect some people worse than others. Inflammation in the body has a huge impact on injuries and recovery from injuries. Some people cannot eat something as healthy sounding as baby spinach for instance, because the high number of oxalates in it causes inflammation in their body, while others can eat a lot of spinach without a problem. Food in general has a huge impact on endurance and recovery.

And like I said, depending on the trip... every team in Americas post game meal is a bad carb load. Even Alabama. They may get weird shakes and pills with their pre game meal and electrolyte soup with 40dollar protein bars... But in Nashville, Austin, and Kansas city theyre getting bbq. My point is the post game meal is a bad example because NO ones is healthy for that one meal a week.

That's fine, but doesn't refute what I was saying. Just because everyone does it does not mean it is optimal.

The team is currently getting 2-4 meals a day. Each day is different on what is served. all on campus players have unlimited access to the meal services on campus (dorms, cafeteria, etc.) They are the best fed team on campus.

(08-22-2022 07:52 PM)Boca Rocket Wrote:  

(08-22-2022 03:30 PM)eastisbest Wrote:  

(08-22-2022 02:05 PM)pono Wrote:  

(08-22-2022 11:51 AM)BrianNowicki Wrote:  

(08-22-2022 08:57 AM)TampaRocket Wrote:  On the flip side, their nutrition program is non-existent.

^ This! Nutrition plays a huge role in preventing and recovering from injuries and this has been a problem at UT, and many schools for years.

Agreed, I know TK has trended towards better nutrition for men's hoops, but in the past it was pretty bad. I remember a post tournament game where I had access to the locker room and the guys were eating pizza and soda as their last meal of the day with a late afternoon game coming up the next day.

With football lots of NFL guys are on specialized diets. The Ravens and Titans squads are typically about 20% vegan with private chefs. Plus, there's the element of food intolerance as most people don't properly digest some common foods, however, they often don't realize it unless they work with a good nutritionist.

My doctor told me that.

Just because you're ingesting vitamin A, doesn't man the body is processing the vitamin A as it should, for example. Hence enzymes and stuff.

Body stores vitamin A . It needs zinc to release it from the liver and fat stores. Then you have the conversion of beta carotene into Vitamin A, but only enough to meet the body's needs.

yeah, really helps to work with a good nutritionist. for example, turmeric is the rage right now, but its beneficial properties are best in moderation and the addition of a tiny bit of black pepper helps the body absorb the good stuff. Yet, there's people pounding turmeric supplements thinking more is better.

As Brian mentioned bodies are different. 10% of the population (higher amongst African-Am) is laxtose intolerant and should not be consuming any lactose rich dairy product. lots of those people don't even know their intolerance exists. Another large group of people are intolerant of nightshades and react badly to things like tomatoes (those nice pots of spaghetti).

Plus, there's huge differences in long term energy levels between a simple carb rich diet and complex carb based diet. And there's also a big difference in the nutrients in food based on how it was grown/raised. The nutritional value of grass fed beef vs cheap factory farmed beef is huge. A carrot or green grown in rich organic soil uptakes far more nutrients than the same vegetable grown conventionally with lots of fertilizers and pesticides even though it might be bigger or look prettier.

up to people to choose their diet, just saying that it's a university where the point is high level thinking. so, surprised that the thinking around nutrition tends to be less complex more often than not among college athletic programs.

(08-22-2022 07:52 PM)Boca Rocket Wrote:  

(08-22-2022 03:30 PM)eastisbest Wrote:  

(08-22-2022 02:05 PM)pono Wrote:  

(08-22-2022 11:51 AM)BrianNowicki Wrote:  

(08-22-2022 08:57 AM)TampaRocket Wrote:  On the flip side, their nutrition program is non-existent.

^ This! Nutrition plays a huge role in preventing and recovering from injuries and this has been a problem at UT, and many schools for years.

Agreed, I know TK has trended towards better nutrition for men's hoops, but in the past it was pretty bad. I remember a post tournament game where I had access to the locker room and the guys were eating pizza and soda as their last meal of the day with a late afternoon game coming up the next day.

With football lots of NFL guys are on specialized diets. The Ravens and Titans squads are typically about 20% vegan with private chefs. Plus, there's the element of food intolerance as most people don't properly digest some common foods, however, they often don't realize it unless they work with a good nutritionist.

My doctor told me that.

Just because you're ingesting vitamin A, doesn't man the body is processing the vitamin A as it should, for example. Hence enzymes and stuff.

Body stores vitamin A . It needs zinc to release it from the liver and fat stores. Then you have the conversion of beta carotene into Vitamin A, but only enough to meet the body's needs.

yeah, really helps to work with a good nutritionist. for example, turmeric is the rage right now, but its beneficial properties are best in moderation and the addition of a tiny bit of black pepper helps the body absorb the good stuff. Yet, there's people pounding turmeric supplements thinking more is better.

As Brian mentioned bodies are different. 10% of the population (higher amongst African-Am) is laxtose intolerant and should not be consuming any lactose rich dairy product. lots of those people don't even know their intolerance exists. Another large group of people are intolerant of nightshades and react badly to things like tomatoes (those nice pots of spaghetti).

Plus, there's huge differences in long term energy levels between a simple carb rich diet and complex carb based diet. And there's also a big difference in the nutrients in food based on how it was grown/raised. The nutritional value of grass fed beef vs cheap factory farmed beef is huge. A carrot or green grown in rich organic soil uptakes far more nutrients than the same vegetable grown conventionally with lots of fertilizers and pesticides even though it might be bigger or look prettier.

up to people to choose their diet, just saying that it's a university where the point is high level thinking. so, surprised that the thinking around nutrition tends to be less complex more often than not among college athletic programs.

(08-24-2022 03:18 PM)pono Wrote:  

(08-22-2022 07:52 PM)Boca Rocket Wrote:  

(08-22-2022 03:30 PM)eastisbest Wrote:  

(08-22-2022 02:05 PM)pono Wrote:  

(08-22-2022 11:51 AM)BrianNowicki Wrote:  ^ This! Nutrition plays a huge role in preventing and recovering from injuries and this has been a problem at UT, and many schools for years.

Agreed, I know TK has trended towards better nutrition for men's hoops, but in the past it was pretty bad. I remember a post tournament game where I had access to the locker room and the guys were eating pizza and soda as their last meal of the day with a late afternoon game coming up the next day.

With football lots of NFL guys are on specialized diets. The Ravens and Titans squads are typically about 20% vegan with private chefs. Plus, there's the element of food intolerance as most people don't properly digest some common foods, however, they often don't realize it unless they work with a good nutritionist.

My doctor told me that.

Just because you're ingesting vitamin A, doesn't man the body is processing the vitamin A as it should, for example. Hence enzymes and stuff.

Body stores vitamin A . It needs zinc to release it from the liver and fat stores. Then you have the conversion of beta carotene into Vitamin A, but only enough to meet the body's needs.

yeah, really helps to work with a good nutritionist. for example, turmeric is the rage right now, but its beneficial properties are best in moderation and the addition of a tiny bit of black pepper helps the body absorb the good stuff. Yet, there's people pounding turmeric supplements thinking more is better.

As Brian mentioned bodies are different. 10% of the population (higher amongst African-Am) is laxtose intolerant and should not be consuming any lactose rich dairy product. lots of those people don't even know their intolerance exists. Another large group of people are intolerant of nightshades and react badly to things like tomatoes (those nice pots of spaghetti).

Plus, there's huge differences in long term energy levels between a simple carb rich diet and complex carb based diet. And there's also a big difference in the nutrients in food based on how it was grown/raised. The nutritional value of grass fed beef vs cheap factory farmed beef is huge. A carrot or green grown in rich organic soil uptakes far more nutrients than the same vegetable grown conventionally with lots of fertilizers and pesticides even though it might be bigger or look prettier.

up to people to choose their diet, just saying that it's a university where the point is high level thinking. so, surprised that the thinking around nutrition tends to be less complex more often than not among college athletic programs.

Bouncy keys, I'll pick this post.

This is mostly for highly performing though isn't it? Us normals are ok with a little bit of the bad, right? Who has time and money for learning all that. If it were important, it would have a drive-through.

(08-24-2022 04:07 PM)eastisbest Wrote:  

(08-24-2022 03:18 PM)pono Wrote:  

(08-22-2022 07:52 PM)Boca Rocket Wrote:  

(08-22-2022 03:30 PM)eastisbest Wrote:  

(08-22-2022 02:05 PM)pono Wrote:  Agreed, I know TK has trended towards better nutrition for men's hoops, but in the past it was pretty bad. I remember a post tournament game where I had access to the locker room and the guys were eating pizza and soda as their last meal of the day with a late afternoon game coming up the next day.

With football lots of NFL guys are on specialized diets. The Ravens and Titans squads are typically about 20% vegan with private chefs. Plus, there's the element of food intolerance as most people don't properly digest some common foods, however, they often don't realize it unless they work with a good nutritionist.

My doctor told me that.

Just because you're ingesting vitamin A, doesn't man the body is processing the vitamin A as it should, for example. Hence enzymes and stuff.

Body stores vitamin A . It needs zinc to release it from the liver and fat stores. Then you have the conversion of beta carotene into Vitamin A, but only enough to meet the body's needs.

yeah, really helps to work with a good nutritionist. for example, turmeric is the rage right now, but its beneficial properties are best in moderation and the addition of a tiny bit of black pepper helps the body absorb the good stuff. Yet, there's people pounding turmeric supplements thinking more is better.

As Brian mentioned bodies are different. 10% of the population (higher amongst African-Am) is laxtose intolerant and should not be consuming any lactose rich dairy product. lots of those people don't even know their intolerance exists. Another large group of people are intolerant of nightshades and react badly to things like tomatoes (those nice pots of spaghetti).

Plus, there's huge differences in long term energy levels between a simple carb rich diet and complex carb based diet. And there's also a big difference in the nutrients in food based on how it was grown/raised. The nutritional value of grass fed beef vs cheap factory farmed beef is huge. A carrot or green grown in rich organic soil uptakes far more nutrients than the same vegetable grown conventionally with lots of fertilizers and pesticides even though it might be bigger or look prettier.

up to people to choose their diet, just saying that it's a university where the point is high level thinking. so, surprised that the thinking around nutrition tends to be less complex more often than not among college athletic programs.

Bouncy keys, I'll pick this post.

This is mostly for highly performing though isn't it? Us normals are ok with a little bit of the bad, right? Who has time and money for learning all that. If it were important, it would have a drive-through.

Ha, it's for everybody but my approach (and it's part of what I do professionally) is to meet people where they are at. If you love pizza rolls eat pizza rolls sometimes, but also eat things that are good for your body. If you have access to high quality protein, carbs and veggies choose those, but if you are broke you can still get pretty good nutrition at low cost with sardines, rice, sweet potato...instead of spam, white bread and french fries, for example.

There's an evolving industry in testing food tolerances. It's kinda like an ancestry test but gives you results on foods that your body processes well, so-so, or should be avoided. Pretty interesting, and gives you sense of how to construct your diet.

If you got health issues talk with a dietician or nutritionist. Sometimes, healthy foods can be bad for certain conditions. People with declining kidney health can have adverse effects from seemingly safe healthy foods, yet can also improve their kidney function by eating better-just need a little support from a professional to figure it out what's what.

(08-24-2022 04:45 PM)pono Wrote:  

(08-24-2022 04:07 PM)eastisbest Wrote:  

(08-24-2022 03:18 PM)pono Wrote:  

(08-22-2022 07:52 PM)Boca Rocket Wrote:  

(08-22-2022 03:30 PM)eastisbest Wrote:  My doctor told me that.

Just because you're ingesting vitamin A, doesn't man the body is processing the vitamin A as it should, for example. Hence enzymes and stuff.

Body stores vitamin A . It needs zinc to release it from the liver and fat stores. Then you have the conversion of beta carotene into Vitamin A, but only enough to meet the body's needs.

yeah, really helps to work with a good nutritionist. for example, turmeric is the rage right now, but its beneficial properties are best in moderation and the addition of a tiny bit of black pepper helps the body absorb the good stuff. Yet, there's people pounding turmeric supplements thinking more is better.

As Brian mentioned bodies are different. 10% of the population (higher amongst African-Am) is laxtose intolerant and should not be consuming any lactose rich dairy product. lots of those people don't even know their intolerance exists. Another large group of people are intolerant of nightshades and react badly to things like tomatoes (those nice pots of spaghetti).

Plus, there's huge differences in long term energy levels between a simple carb rich diet and complex carb based diet. And there's also a big difference in the nutrients in food based on how it was grown/raised. The nutritional value of grass fed beef vs cheap factory farmed beef is huge. A carrot or green grown in rich organic soil uptakes far more nutrients than the same vegetable grown conventionally with lots of fertilizers and pesticides even though it might be bigger or look prettier.

up to people to choose their diet, just saying that it's a university where the point is high level thinking. so, surprised that the thinking around nutrition tends to be less complex more often than not among college athletic programs.

Bouncy keys, I'll pick this post.

This is mostly for highly performing though isn't it? Us normals are ok with a little bit of the bad, right? Who has time and money for learning all that. If it were important, it would have a drive-through.

Ha, it's for everybody but my approach (and it's part of what I do professionally) is to meet people where they are at. If you love pizza rolls eat pizza rolls sometimes, but also eat things that are good for your body. If you have access to high quality protein, carbs and veggies choose those, but if you are broke you can still get pretty good nutrition at low cost with sardines, rice, sweet potato...instead of spam, white bread and french fries, for example.

There's an evolving industry in testing food tolerances. It's kinda like an ancestry test but gives you results on foods that your body processes well, so-so, or should be avoided. Pretty interesting, and gives you sense of how to construct your diet.

I wouldn't know a healthy protein from one on life support.

untill all those fancy words hit the signs above an aisle at Krogers, without a bunch of added costs, normal people got no chance.

People with swollen glands aisle. People with achy feet aisle....