I haven’t seen ECU yet. Hopefully they have turned the corner. However, they have only played the kenpom #338 schedule so far.

(12-08-2021 06:52 PM)rath v2.0 Wrote:  I haven’t seen ECU yet. Hopefully they have turned the corner. However, they have only played the kenpom #338 schedule so far.

ecu is going to be one of the most "upset special" team in the conference becuase they are really tall and have streaky shooter.. on an on shooting night they are going to be monster..the question is how often they'll be shooting well

they are kinda soft (rebound and defensively), but if they magically found a way to toughup theyd actually be one of the best rosters in the league..they have hte length to be good at both

they took oklahoma to the wire and were beating davidson 85% of the game but collapsed in the last minute (ecu was up 13 in the 2nd half)

this is their starting line up

6'5 tristen newton
6'7 jj miles
6'6 brandon suggs
6'9 vance jackson
6'11 ludgy debaut

they are a good offensive team.. that should probably be better than theyve shown on defense with their length

Y’all get a good look at the AAC POY tonight.

(12-08-2021 07:26 PM)pesik Wrote:  

(12-08-2021 06:52 PM)rath v2.0 Wrote:  I haven’t seen ECU yet. Hopefully they have turned the corner. However, they have only played the kenpom #338 schedule so far.

they are a good offensive team.. that should probably be better than theyve shown on defense with their length

The biggest problem with our offense is we live and die by the three. We often go through dry spells on offense when the three isn't falling. If we had a good iso scorer who could just get a bucket when things weren't working we'd be pretty good but we don't have that so it limits us.

Good W Ponies

(12-08-2021 09:15 PM)CLTPirate Wrote:  

(12-08-2021 07:26 PM)pesik Wrote:  

(12-08-2021 06:52 PM)rath v2.0 Wrote:  I haven’t seen ECU yet. Hopefully they have turned the corner. However, they have only played the kenpom #338 schedule so far.

they are a good offensive team.. that should probably be better than theyve shown on defense with their length

The biggest problem with our offense is we live and die by the three. We often go through dry spells on offense when the three isn't falling. If we had a good iso scorer who could just get a bucket when things weren't working we'd be pretty good but we don't have that so it limits us.

I think our biggest problem is rebounding and defense. We give up too many rebounds and easy baskets. If we can improve on that we can surprise but if not then we will be near the bottom again. This is a big year for Dooley, we need a strong year if he is to be retained.

SMU is good enough to beat any team in the league.... And they are going to pull a triple digit NET ranking into conference season

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isnt this the worst case scenerio for smu fans... jank is playing well enough to not get fired...but already taken some bad losses on a weak schedule that making the tournament would be hard.. also on a senior-heavy team that will have major roster turnover next year

but the way the overall noncon has gone for the conference we've beat enough middling teams to probably be a multi-bid league 2 maybe 3bid league but not enough to for more than that.. and those 2-3 need great conference records..
for example ucf, smu, memphis, cincy & wichita have shown they can be low seed tourney teams, but not all of them can make it ..there games vs each other will probably be elimination-ish style games...and then there ecu, temple and tulsa who are going to get some upsets

obviously, ucf (w michigan and fsu), cincy (xavier), and memphis (alabama and tennesse) still have Opportunities to get great noncon wins and reduce the need for a dominant conference record

(12-08-2021 10:06 PM)Stickboy46 Wrote:  SMU is good enough to beat any team in the league.... And they are going to pull a triple digit NET ranking into conference season

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I think by conference play, SMU will be down to double digits in the NET rankings.

and will be the second favorite to win the conference.

We shall see, but I think SMU will be very near the top.

(12-08-2021 10:32 PM)shadowman Wrote:  

(12-08-2021 10:06 PM)Stickboy46 Wrote:  SMU is good enough to beat any team in the league.... And they are going to pull a triple digit NET ranking into conference season

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I think by conference play, SMU will be down to double digits in the NET rankings.

and will be the second favorite to win the conference.

We shall see, but I think SMU will be very near the top.

Nice, convincing win over a (#94 NET) Dayton team with a 2-0 Q1 record that recently beat (#94 kenpom) Miami, (#4) Kansas and (#54 kenpom) Belmont on their home courts in late November.

SMU's NET ranking (#127 before the Dayton game) are pretty far out of alignment with their kenpom.com (#78), Massey Composite (#101), and Torvik (#86) rankings.

After beating Dayton and (#105 NET) Vanderbilt, SMU (8-3) looks like a top 100 team with a pretty good chance to play in the NIT.

The Mustangs are predicted to finish with a 21-10 record by warrennolan.com.

(12-08-2021 10:09 PM)pesik Wrote:  isnt this the worst case scenerio for smu fans... jank is playing well enough to not get fired...but already taken some bad losses on a weak schedule that making the tournament would be hard.. also on a senior-heavy team that will have major roster turnover next year

but the way the overall noncon has gone for the conference we've beat enough middling teams to probably be a multi-bid league 2 maybe 3bid league but not enough to for more than that.. and those 2-3 need great conference records..
for example ucf, smu, memphis, cincy & wichita have shown they can be low seed tourney teams, but not all of them can make it ..there games vs each other will probably be elimination-ish style games...and then there ecu, temple and tulsa who are going to get some upsets

obviously, ucf (w michigan and fsu), cincy (xavier), and memphis (alabama and tennesse) still have Opportunities to get great noncon wins and reduce the need for a dominant conference record

Table AAC: Predicted records, according to four websites:

................warrennolan*...barttorvik^..massey#..realtimerpi~....average:
Houston..........30-1.............27-4...........29-2..........28-3..........28.5 wins
Cincy:.............25-6.............21-10.........22-9.........21-10.........22.5 wins
Memphis:........21-9.............20-10.........23-8.........21-9...........21.25 wins
SMU:..............21-10...........19-12.........21-10........18-13.........19.75 wins
Wichita St:......18-12...........19-11.........22-9..........19-11.........19.5 wins
UCF:..............16-13...........19-10.........20-11........20-9...........18.75 wins
Temple:..........17-14...........15-16.........19-12........19-12.........17.5 wins

*warrennolan.com
^barttorvik.com
#masseyratings.com (massey's own; NOT the massey composite)
~real.timerpi.com

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It's surprising to see these sites predicting Memphis to finish 3rd in the AAC, given that Memphis is #38 in the Massey Composite, while Cincy, WSU, and UCF are ranked #50, #58, and #69. kenpomcom has Memphis #35, with WSU, UCF, and Cincy ranked #55, #56, and #70.

According to kenpom.com and the Massey Composite, the AAC will probably be represented in the NCAA by Houston and Memphis, but if things go the way these four sites in the above Table predict, the AAC could be a 1, 2, or 3 bid conference, depending on how well the various teams play in the AAC tournament.

Cincy and Memphis would both be viewed as NCAA bubble teams heading into the final weekend, and the conference tournament would be expected to be highly competitive, with several potential dark horses.

This could be the kind of season in which the conference has 1-3 NCAA and 1-3 NIT teams (total: 3-5, with a couple of teams receiving invitations to play in the CBI, and a fairly high probability that a conference team will opt to play in the CBI.

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(12-08-2021 10:09 PM)pesik Wrote:  isnt this the worst case scenerio for smu fans... jank is playing well enough to not get fired...but already taken some bad losses on a weak schedule that making the tournament would be hard.. also on a senior-heavy team that will have major roster turnover next year

but the way the overall noncon has gone for the conference we've beat enough middling teams to probably be a multi-bid league 2 maybe 3bid league but not enough to for more than that.. and those 2-3 need great conference records..
for example ucf, smu, memphis, cincy & wichita have shown they can be low seed tourney teams, but not all of them can make it ..there games vs each other will probably be elimination-ish style games...and then there ecu, temple and tulsa who are going to get some upsets

obviously, ucf (w michigan and fsu), cincy (xavier), and memphis (alabama and tennesse) still have Opportunities to get great noncon wins and reduce the need for a dominant conference record

Here is the over-arching problem: Not only does SMU need a new basketball coach, they need a new University President and a new AD. The Pres cares more about adding fountains on campus than adding to the athletic department and he keeps the AD under his thumb. The Dykes fiasco is the final straw. It’s their ambivalence that has held us back from moving up conference wise. Our big money donors are great but haven’t been able to push the Pres out. We needa a Fertitta!

Ideally the old goat President retires and let’s the donors get a more athletic-friendly Pres and an AD with some swagger. Until then we are essentially stuck in neutral.

(12-07-2021 09:59 PM)mikeinoki Wrote:  So this is weird.

Houston 8-1
East Carolina 8-2
Cincinnati 7-2
Wichita State 6-2
UCF 5-2
SMU 7-3
Memphis 5-3
Temple 5-3
Tulsa 4-4
South Florida 3-4
Tulane 3-5

ECU could be 10-0. Had good leads in both losses. That being said...I would not take much stock in this due to the opponents. It will still be a battle to break .500. Team seems improved and are shooting beyond the arc this year. Not a tournament caliber team but might be good enough for NIT. We will see.

(12-09-2021 05:51 PM)pesik Wrote:  

They better figure out how to hit something besides each other over the head.

big game for memphis today for moral reasons. losing this game and then heading into Bama and Tennesse will be brutal, those arent games to build momentum from

Murray state isn't good but better than Georgia, worse than VTech..

also cbs had a mini session talking about memphis





edit: what do memphis fans think of his last point?.. that alex lomax needs to be completely removed for the rotation, that memphis has only ever looked great under penny once rthe last 3 years, coincidently the stretch that involved lomax being hurt and not playing

Alex lomax and tyler harris starting, along with bates, timberlake and duren

lester, deandre williams and nolley on the bench

(12-10-2021 08:04 PM)pesik Wrote:  Alex lomax and tyler harris starting, along with bates, timberlake and duren

lester, deandre williams and nolley on the bench

I haven't watched enough of Memphis to know if the freshman are part of the problem, but would Penny ever sit Duren and Bates?

(12-10-2021 08:08 PM)JFlight21 Wrote:  

(12-10-2021 08:04 PM)pesik Wrote:  Alex lomax and tyler harris starting, along with bates, timberlake and duren

lester, deandre williams and nolley on the bench

I haven't watched enough of Memphis to know if the freshman are part of the problem, but would Penny ever sit Duren and Bates?

bates played starter minutes last games but came off the bench

bates has not looked good he is definitely part of the problem in the sense that his minutes could be given to another stacked players with how deep memphis is

memphis defense is drastically worse than last year , and offense still insanely turnover prove

memphis makes 1st subs... none of them are lester, nolley or wiliiams

his son, minott and dandridge are in.. its now obvious who he was calling out