(11-29-2021 09:53 PM)VCE Wrote:  

(11-29-2021 09:50 PM)stever20 Wrote:  

Hmmm. I believe the Irish could beat that if they wanted. Maybe JR’s suspicions are correct.

IF is the key word. I don't see Notre Dame willing to get in a bidding war.

(11-29-2021 10:05 PM)shere khan Wrote:  LSU just slapped Notre Dame and the Average Coast Conference in the mouth.

Astonishing

You can’t count that as a full slap, only around 60% and not eligible for the conference slap title.

Get your facts straight, G5’er

(11-29-2021 10:07 PM)VCE Wrote:  

(11-29-2021 10:04 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  

(11-29-2021 10:03 PM)VCE Wrote:  

(11-29-2021 09:59 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  

(11-29-2021 08:37 PM)ClairtonPanther Wrote:  This is a step dahn for Brian Kelly with a much bigger headache to deal with. More power to him.

Kelly might figure he won't win a title without LSU level talent.

He has done everything but win a title.

Hasn’t won a major bowl game at ND.

He's done better than that. He's gone to the playoffs.

And gotten blown out 3 times. He never won a big time post season game at ND.

I don't know but losing to the eventual National Champion each year isn't too bad.

https://collegefootballplayoff.com/sport...story.aspx

(11-29-2021 10:05 PM)shere khan Wrote:  LSU just slapped Notre Dame and the Average Coast Conference in the mouth.

Astonishing

I read that the LSU offer is $15 million a year to Kelly, making him the highest paid college head coach of all time.

There was no way ND was going to pay that much to keep Kelly at age 60.

I am a Brian Kelly fan, he did very, very well at ND but he was done there in three years when his contract was up.

He made $7 million a year at ND. They were not going to tear up his contract and pay him double what he was making.

The timing is bad but such is life. Onward to the next coach.

Now, the focus is on hiring someone like Luke Fickell or Marcus Freeman.

(11-29-2021 10:23 PM)TerryD Wrote:  

(11-29-2021 10:05 PM)shere khan Wrote:  LSU just slapped Notre Dame and the Average Coast Conference in the mouth.

Astonishing

I read that the LSU offer is $15 million a year to Kelly, making him the highest paid college head coach of all time.

There was no way ND was going to pay that much to keep Kelly at age 60.

I am a Brian Kelly fan, he did very, very well at ND but he was done there in three years when his contract was up.

He made $7 million a year at ND. They were not going to tear up his contract and pay him double what he was making.

The timing is bad but such is life. Onward to the next coach.

Now, the focus is on hiring someone like Luke Fickell or Marcus Freeman.

Spoken like a true fan in these modern times of coach changes. I wish I would have handled it like you when Frost left UCF for Nebraska.

(11-29-2021 10:23 PM)stever20 Wrote:  

There are definitely coaches out there who want to do the right thing and tell their players, but social media has made it impossible. Kelly actually planned to tell his Cincy players after a banquet, but it got leaked right before.

(11-29-2021 10:26 PM)sierrajip Wrote:  

(11-29-2021 10:23 PM)TerryD Wrote:  

(11-29-2021 10:05 PM)shere khan Wrote:  LSU just slapped Notre Dame and the Average Coast Conference in the mouth.

Astonishing

I read that the LSU offer is $15 million a year to Kelly, making him the highest paid college head coach of all time.

There was no way ND was going to pay that much to keep Kelly at age 60.

I am a Brian Kelly fan, he did very, very well at ND but he was done there in three years when his contract was up.

He made $7 million a year at ND. They were not going to tear up his contract and pay him double what he was making.

The timing is bad but such is life. Onward to the next coach.

Now, the focus is on hiring someone like Luke Fickell or Marcus Freeman.

Spoken like a true fan in these modern times of coach changes. I wish I would have handled it like you when Frost left UCF for Nebraska.

Every head coach at every school is a mercenary, as they should be, since they often get fired.

Many fans are of the "not the coach at the school I root for, he is true blue loyal" but that just isn't reality.

I don't hold any hard feelings for Brian Kelly (even going to LSU). I appreciate what he did to bring ND back from the depths of the Willingham/Weis years.

I like the Charles de Gaulle quote of "The graveyards are full of indispensable men".

Everyone is replaceable. I just hope that the ND administration does not screw up this hire.

(11-29-2021 10:22 PM)sierrajip Wrote:  

(11-29-2021 10:07 PM)VCE Wrote:  

(11-29-2021 10:04 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  

(11-29-2021 10:03 PM)VCE Wrote:  

(11-29-2021 09:59 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  Kelly might figure he won't win a title without LSU level talent.

He has done everything but win a title.

Hasn’t won a major bowl game at ND.

He's done better than that. He's gone to the playoffs.

And gotten blown out 3 times. He never won a big time post season game at ND.

I don't know but losing to the eventual National Champion each year isn't too bad.

https://collegefootballplayoff.com/sport...story.aspx

He won one big game in 12 years, beating a Clemson team while Trevor Lawrence was out with the chinese flu. ND’s schedules have become crap over the years. I’m surprised “Savvy” Jack Swarbrick didn’t start scheduling FCS teams.

So this means that Kelly won't be coaching Notre Dame in a bowl game or (much more importantly) in a playoff game?

I know there is not a good solution at this time, but it's absolutely ridiculous a team would be without its head coach (or even an assistant) in a playoff game (and yes, I know, recruiting blah blah blah)

College Football needs to figure something out on this mess going forward, particularly as the playoff expands and even more programs are impacted.

(11-29-2021 09:59 PM)VCE Wrote:  

(11-29-2021 09:56 PM)Frank the Tank Wrote:  

(11-29-2021 09:20 PM)IWokeUpLikeThis Wrote:  

(11-29-2021 08:51 PM)RUScarlets Wrote:  Urban Meyer is the only splash, but unless things severely deteriorate in Jacksonville this year I don’t see it. Just too soon to make a change.

Urban could pull a Bobby Petrino. IIRC, the Falcons’ next win after Petrino was introduced as Arkansas’ coach, a bunch of players danced and stomped on Petrino’s picture in the locker room.

Oh, Urban Meyer is the one NFL-to-college move that I could see. You can see it in Urban’s body language this whole year - I don’t think he can handle being bottom of the totem pole in the NFL when he has been a legit college legend. The guy has already retired twice from stress and that’s when he was winning national championships.

I’ve heard Shad Khan is unhappy with Urban. I’ve also heard that TPTB at ND hold Meyer’s personal life issues against him. So much for confession and forgiveness.

Shad Khan is a lot like Dan Snyder (Washington football team's owner), IMO. He's very hard to please, and wants any excuse to move the Jaguars to London (who doesn't even want them, IMHO)

(11-29-2021 10:32 PM)PeteTheChop Wrote:  So this means that Kelly won't be coaching Notre Dame in a bowl game or (much more importantly) in a playoff game?

I know there is not a good solution at this time, but it's absolutely ridiculous a team would be without its head coach (or even an assistant) in a playoff game (and yes, I know, recruiting blah blah blah)

College Football needs to figure something out on this mess going forward, particularly as the playoff expands and even more programs are impacted.

There’s no reason to not change the signing period to a few weeks after the season is done.

(11-29-2021 10:32 PM)VCE Wrote:  ND’s schedules have become crap over the years.

Sadly, that is what happens when you climb into bed with the ACC.

(11-29-2021 10:35 PM)Gamenole Wrote:  

(11-29-2021 10:32 PM)VCE Wrote:  ND’s schedules have become crap over the years.

Sadly, that is what happens when you climb into bed with the ACC.

I disagree the schedule is crap.

But, if so, its all the fault of FSU, USC, Wisconsin and Stanford, etc...for being down.

That ain't the fault of Jack Swarbrick scheduling these schools years in advance.

Is next year's schedule "crap" too?

09/03 - at Ohio State
09/10 - Marshall
09/17 - California
09/24 - at North Carolina
10/08 - vs BYU (in Las Vegas, NV)
10/15 - Stanford
10/22 - UNLV
11/05 - Clemson
11/12 - vs Navy (in Baltimore, MD)
11/26 - at USC
TBA - Boston College
TBA - at Syracuse

(11-29-2021 08:10 PM)Gamenole Wrote:  Wow, that will be something if Woodward pulls it off. Not sure why Brian Kelly would want to leave his safe perch in South Bend for the tiger pit in Baton Rouge, but maybe at his age and this point in his career he's thinking he wants a new challenge and doesn't mind so much if he gets sent away many millions richer in 3-4 years if it doesn't work out?

Always happy to see a good coach leave Notre Dame though, they're getting annoyingly close to relevance again these last few years.

Yes, 54-9 the past five years with two playoff berths in the last three years (before this one) is "getting annoyingly close to relevance again."

Lol. Tough crowd.

(11-29-2021 10:32 PM)VCE Wrote:  

(11-29-2021 10:22 PM)sierrajip Wrote:  

(11-29-2021 10:07 PM)VCE Wrote:  

(11-29-2021 10:04 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  

(11-29-2021 10:03 PM)VCE Wrote:  Hasn’t won a major bowl game at ND.

He's done better than that. He's gone to the playoffs.

And gotten blown out 3 times. He never won a big time post season game at ND.

I don't know but losing to the eventual National Champion each year isn't too bad.

https://collegefootballplayoff.com/sport...story.aspx

He won one big game in 12 years, beating a Clemson team while Trevor Lawrence was out with the chinese flu. ND’s schedules have become crap over the years. I’m surprised “Savvy” Jack Swarbrick didn’t start scheduling FCS teams.

How many teams in college football have even made the playoffs in its history? Since 2015, not including this year, ten different teams in a four team playoff in 7 years. Look at the chart. Give it up.

(11-29-2021 10:40 PM)TerryD Wrote:  

(11-29-2021 10:35 PM)Gamenole Wrote:  

(11-29-2021 10:32 PM)VCE Wrote:  ND’s schedules have become crap over the years.

Sadly, that is what happens when you climb into bed with the ACC.

I disagree the schedule is crap.

But, if so, its all the fault of FSU, USC, Wisconsin and Stanford, etc...for being down.

That ain't the fault of Jack Swarbrick scheduling these schools years in advance.

Is next year's schedule "crap" too?

09/03 - at Ohio State
09/10 - Marshall
09/17 - California
09/24 - at North Carolina
10/08 - vs BYU (in Las Vegas, NV)
10/15 - Stanford
10/22 - UNLV
11/05 - Clemson
11/12 - vs Navy (in Baltimore, MD)
11/26 - at USC
TBA - Boston College
TBA - at Syracuse

4 G5’s? Yes. OSU and Clemson are good schools to have and obviously USC. Otherwise that schedule is awful.

(11-29-2021 10:40 PM)TerryD Wrote:  

(11-29-2021 10:35 PM)Gamenole Wrote:  

(11-29-2021 10:32 PM)VCE Wrote:  ND’s schedules have become crap over the years.

Sadly, that is what happens when you climb into bed with the ACC.

I disagree the schedule is crap.

But, if so, its all the fault of FSU, USC, Wisconsin and Stanford, etc...for being down.

That ain't the fault of Jack Swarbrick scheduling these schools years in advance.

Is next year's schedule "crap" too?

09/03 - at Ohio State
09/10 - Marshall
09/17 - California
09/24 - at North Carolina
10/08 - vs BYU (in Las Vegas, NV)
10/15 - Stanford
10/22 - UNLV
11/05 - Clemson
11/12 - vs Navy (in Baltimore, MD)
11/26 - at USC
TBA - Boston College
TBA - at Syracuse

Yes, crap

(11-29-2021 10:45 PM)sierrajip Wrote:  

(11-29-2021 10:32 PM)VCE Wrote:  

(11-29-2021 10:22 PM)sierrajip Wrote:  

(11-29-2021 10:07 PM)VCE Wrote:  

(11-29-2021 10:04 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  He's done better than that. He's gone to the playoffs.

And gotten blown out 3 times. He never won a big time post season game at ND.

I don't know but losing to the eventual National Champion each year isn't too bad.

https://collegefootballplayoff.com/sport...story.aspx

He won one big game in 12 years, beating a Clemson team while Trevor Lawrence was out with the chinese flu. ND’s schedules have become crap over the years. I’m surprised “Savvy” Jack Swarbrick didn’t start scheduling FCS teams.

How many teams in college football have even made the playoffs in its history? Since 2015, not including this year, ten different teams in a four team playoff in 7 years. Look at the chart. Give it up.

Given that until the vacated wins and Alabama’s run I think ND was both the winningest team in CFB as well as the team with the most NCs (recognize that ND has a different standard for claiming them than Bama), I think it’s fair for ND fans to expect something more than what BK achieved.

(11-29-2021 10:32 PM)TerryD Wrote:  

(11-29-2021 10:26 PM)sierrajip Wrote:  

(11-29-2021 10:23 PM)TerryD Wrote:  

(11-29-2021 10:05 PM)shere khan Wrote:  LSU just slapped Notre Dame and the Average Coast Conference in the mouth.

Astonishing

I read that the LSU offer is $15 million a year to Kelly, making him the highest paid college head coach of all time.

There was no way ND was going to pay that much to keep Kelly at age 60.

I am a Brian Kelly fan, he did very, very well at ND but he was done there in three years when his contract was up.

He made $7 million a year at ND. They were not going to tear up his contract and pay him double what he was making.

The timing is bad but such is life. Onward to the next coach.

Now, the focus is on hiring someone like Luke Fickell or Marcus Freeman.

Spoken like a true fan in these modern times of coach changes. I wish I would have handled it like you when Frost left UCF for Nebraska.

Every head coach at every school is a mercenary, as they should be, since they often get fired.

Many fans are of the "not the coach at the school I root for, he is true blue loyal" but that just isn't reality.

I don't hold any hard feelings for Brian Kelly (even going to LSU). I appreciate what he did to bring ND back from the depths of the Willingham/Weis years.

I like the Charles de Gaulle quote of "The graveyards are full of indispensable men".

Everyone is replaceable. I just hope that the ND administration does not screw up this hire.

Respect.