(10-25-2021 01:54 PM)vabearcat Wrote:  

(10-25-2021 09:36 AM)TUCandoit Wrote:  I believe Houston has the best team but can they put it all together for a whole game? Not sure

I think Houston does enough to get it done. If I was Cincy I would rather play SMU than Houston. SMU you know what you will get and it will be a tough out but one Cincy can take on. Houston you just are not sure what you will get and if they come 100%, I think they can surprise a Cincy team.

Houston has played no one even remotely as talented as this year’s UC team. Houston’s loss was to an ordinary Texas Tech team that was so mediocre that it has just fired its head coach. SMU has some offensive weapons who are capable of challenging the Bearcat defense. Houston? Not so much. UC beating SMU twice over a three week span would be difficult.

Cincy would get a rude awakening from our d-line and linebackers.

I don't know about that.

Notre Dame's problem isn't on the d-line or linebackers and Cincy seemed to handle them.

And your DB's better be up to snuff this weekend, too.

(10-24-2021 11:14 PM)owl at the moon Wrote:  

(10-24-2021 09:23 PM)UTSA_Alum Wrote:  Go Cougs! Do it for public universities and new money!

I was on the fence on this one until this post.

But now I gotta pull for SMU.

Cuz, I’m from the “Old School”.

And I love my privates.

A page later, and no one else took this quick win?
Okay, I'll do it.


You keep loving your privates, buddy.
You have to if no one else does.

(10-25-2021 01:54 PM)vabearcat Wrote:  

(10-25-2021 09:36 AM)TUCandoit Wrote:  I believe Houston has the best team but can they put it all together for a whole game? Not sure

I think Houston does enough to get it done. If I was Cincy I would rather play SMU than Houston. SMU you know what you will get and it will be a tough out but one Cincy can take on. Houston you just are not sure what you will get and if they come 100%, I think they can surprise a Cincy team.

Houston has played no one even remotely as talented as this year’s UC team. Houston’s loss was to an ordinary Texas Tech team that was so mediocre that it has just fired its head coach. SMU has some offensive weapons who are capable of challenging the Bearcat defense. Houston? Not so much. UC beating SMU twice over a three week span would be difficult.

This team, 7 games into the season is not the same "team" that opened the season against TTech, but anyway...

Not sure if you're looking for UC cheerleading in a UH vs SMU thread... or even why. LOL

But ya, here you go, UC is pretty good. Go pat yourself on the back while we argue over 2nd place.

That do it for ya?

(10-24-2021 04:54 PM)Red Dragon Coog Wrote:  If we play like we played against ECU, we will lose.


If we play well like we normally do, we win.




The question is can our d-line dominate SMU's o-line and can our Front 7 sack Mordecai like they've sacked every other qb they have played against?

I haven't watched SMU much this season, but if their defense can get pressure on the qb they should be fine as they have a far superior offense to ECU. But, the game for Houston vs ECU could be an anomaly due to the extreme rain delay. Hard to figure, but Houston is very good. They have a lot of athletes both sides of the ball. If they execute it could mean problems for Smoo.

(10-25-2021 05:58 PM)SMUleopold Wrote:  I don't know about that.

Notre Dame's problem isn't on the d-line or linebackers and Cincy seemed to handle them.

And your DB's better be up to snuff this weekend, too.

cincy won because their defense was dominant... but ND defense that is statistically just average kept UC in check... UC only scored 24,, 10 of which were from fields shorter than 18yds (From turnovers)..

this game will be interesting
a battle of strengths

smu hasnt played a defense anywhere close to as good as ours, Houston hasnt played an offense anywhere close to as good as SMUs..
Smu has the best pass protection in the league allowing the least amount of sacks by a HUGE margin... houston leads the league in sacks by a HUGE margin.. houston is doing 4 sacks a game, smu has allowed 2 sacks all season... something has to give.. (same as before; Houston hasn't played a team with a oline this statistically good, also smu has only played teams with horrible pass-rushing stats)

then the real battle, smu passing numbers are insane.. Houston has 2 cb's they think are NFL guys. as the only prolific pass team on the schedule, this is where they will prove their worth ..

all in all - smu will probably score, but not close to the levels theyve been doing so far--

the battle of the weakness is what will probably define game---
SMU's defense is statistically not good... Houston offense is not great .. both are not horrible and have shown flashes
I think tune can pick apart smus defense if he can get time in the pocket .. i think if Houston can run the ball, Houston will purposely try to kill clock.. but Houston running and tune having time in the pocket aren't assured, tune struggles horribly vs the pressure.. no way smu puts on the film of the ecu game, sees how successfully constantly blitzing Houston worked and not do that themselves .. smu will definitely be blitzing

i thnk the defining factor of the game will how does houston handles smu's blitz... houston and smu probably know that

(10-25-2021 02:51 PM)coogrfan Wrote:  So...Sonny's alma mater fires their 5-3 HC midseason, presumably so they can get a head start on finding a new guy. I wonder where they will start?

Yeah, I read a recent response to the question if Sonny had been contacted and/or had he reached out to Texas Tech. His answer was so glaringly obvious yes. It so reminded me of when Herman got those questions during the season. So, the question will be can Sonny keep his players focused..........unlike Herman.

(10-25-2021 07:27 PM)slhNavy91 Wrote:  

(10-24-2021 11:14 PM)owl at the moon Wrote:  

(10-24-2021 09:23 PM)UTSA_Alum Wrote:  Go Cougs! Do it for public universities and new money!

I was on the fence on this one until this post.

But now I gotta pull for SMU.

Cuz, I’m from the “Old School”.

And I love my privates.

A page later, and no one else took this quick win?
Okay, I'll do it.


You keep loving your privates, buddy.
You have to if no one else does.

Hahaha

I'll be there.

(10-26-2021 10:05 AM)pesik Wrote:  

(10-25-2021 05:58 PM)SMUleopold Wrote:  I don't know about that.

Notre Dame's problem isn't on the d-line or linebackers and Cincy seemed to handle them.

And your DB's better be up to snuff this weekend, too.

cincy won because their defense was dominant... but ND defense that is statistically just average kept UC in check... UC only scored 24,, 10 of which were from fields shorter than 18yds (From turnovers)..

Notre Dame has the 13th rated defense in the country according to SP+. The idea that they are average on defense is silly. Houston is really good on defense...they are 39th in SP+.

(10-27-2021 11:37 AM)bearcatmark Wrote:  

(10-26-2021 10:05 AM)pesik Wrote:  

(10-25-2021 05:58 PM)SMUleopold Wrote:  I don't know about that.

Notre Dame's problem isn't on the d-line or linebackers and Cincy seemed to handle them.

And your DB's better be up to snuff this weekend, too.

cincy won because their defense was dominant... but ND defense that is statistically just average kept UC in check... UC only scored 24,, 10 of which were from fields shorter than 18yds (From turnovers)..

Notre Dame has the 13th rated defense in the country according to SP+. The idea that they are average on defense is silly. Houston is really good on defense...they are 39th in SP+.

ND defensive national rankings

total defense
4- Houston
59-Notre Dame

scoring defense
14- Houston
52-Notre Dame

also decided to actually look up sp+ rankings, there's definitely some sort of p5 bias/metric added, every single g5 is way lower than legitimately every other computer rankings

or do you genuinely think Cincy is #13 nationally..

or that Wisconsin is the national number 1 defense, drastically better than cincys
ND vs Wisconsion -ND scored 41
ND vs Cincy- ND scored 13

you don't even believe that yourself... you are backing your point with stats you wouldnt even buy

(10-27-2021 12:15 PM)pesik Wrote:  

(10-27-2021 11:37 AM)bearcatmark Wrote:  

(10-26-2021 10:05 AM)pesik Wrote:  

(10-25-2021 05:58 PM)SMUleopold Wrote:  I don't know about that.

Notre Dame's problem isn't on the d-line or linebackers and Cincy seemed to handle them.

And your DB's better be up to snuff this weekend, too.

cincy won because their defense was dominant... but ND defense that is statistically just average kept UC in check... UC only scored 24,, 10 of which were from fields shorter than 18yds (From turnovers)..

Notre Dame has the 13th rated defense in the country according to SP+. The idea that they are average on defense is silly. Houston is really good on defense...they are 39th in SP+.

ND defensive national rankings

total defense
4- Houston
59-Notre Dame

scoring defense
14- Houston
52-Notre Dame

also decided to actually look up sp+ rankings, there's definitely some sort of p5 bias/metric added, every single g5 is way lower than legitimately every other computer rankings

or do you genuinely think Cincy is #13 nationally..

or that Wisconsin is the national number 1 defense, drastically better than cincys
ND vs Wisconsion -ND scored 41
ND vs Cincy- ND scored 13

you don't even believe that yourself... you are backing your point with stats you wouldnt even buy

I don't think SP+ is gospel and the projections are still holding up a couple teams too much (see clemson offense), but it's a far better measure of defense and offense than just looking at total defense/scoring defense.

Houston holding grambling to 0, Rice to 7, and Tulsa to 10 doesn't do that much for me. I think their pretty good on defense, but those games tell us little. Texas Tech is 38th in offensive SP+...they scored 38 on Houston.

Also... is Wisconsin the best defense in the country? Probably not (hint...it's Georgia). Are they an exceptional defense? Yes. Don't be deceived by that Notre Dame score. That's the result of two pick sixes, a kickoff return TD and other turnovers. The Wisconsin defense was damn good that day as well.

(10-27-2021 12:24 PM)bearcatmark Wrote:  Texas Tech is 38th in offensive SP+...they scored 38 on Houston.

you are aware houston qb threw 4 picks in that game.. 1 was a pick 6...another pick had them in auto field goal range, they had a 3 and out, but got 3 points from it

our defense looked great in that game for 95% of the game... texas tech had a 60yd td run with less than a minute left in the game (game was already over, up multiple scores).. if you remove that end of game run, they had less than 100yds rushing and 200yds passing

no one could watch that game and actually blame the defense, they had maybe 2 legitimate offensive drives

also side note: texas tech qb got hurt game 2...the qb we played (projected draft pick, shough, got a season ending injury game 2)

(10-27-2021 12:46 PM)pesik Wrote:  

(10-27-2021 12:24 PM)bearcatmark Wrote:  Texas Tech is 38th in offensive SP+...they scored 38 on Houston.

you are aware houston qb threw 4 picks in that game.. 1 was a pick 6...another pick had them in auto field goal range, they had a 3 and out, but got 3 points from it

our defense looked great in that game for 95% of the game... texas tech had a 60yd td run with less than a minute left in the game (game was already over, up multiple scores).. if you remove that end of game run, they had less than 100yds rushing and 200yds passing

no one could watch that game and actually blame the defense, they had maybe 2 legitimate offensive drives

also side note: texas tech qb got hurt game 2...the qb we played (projected draft pick, shough, got a season ending injury game 2)

Houston has played no one.

(10-27-2021 01:10 PM)rtaylor Wrote:  

(10-27-2021 12:46 PM)pesik Wrote:  

(10-27-2021 12:24 PM)bearcatmark Wrote:  Texas Tech is 38th in offensive SP+...they scored 38 on Houston.

you are aware houston qb threw 4 picks in that game.. 1 was a pick 6...another pick had them in auto field goal range, they had a 3 and out, but got 3 points from it

our defense looked great in that game for 95% of the game... texas tech had a 60yd td run with less than a minute left in the game (game was already over, up multiple scores).. if you remove that end of game run, they had less than 100yds rushing and 200yds passing

no one could watch that game and actually blame the defense, they had maybe 2 legitimate offensive drives

also side note: texas tech qb got hurt game 2...the qb we played (projected draft pick, shough, got a season ending injury game 2)

Houston has played no one.

Sad but true. ECU is our best win so far and they took us to OT. I think Cincy would beat us by 3+ scores. I think SMU is about to expose us tbh. That said after the way the last two years have gone I'm just thankful we're finally winning games again, even if its been against cupcakes.

(10-25-2021 07:27 PM)slhNavy91 Wrote:  

(10-24-2021 11:14 PM)owl at the moon Wrote:  

(10-24-2021 09:23 PM)UTSA_Alum Wrote:  Go Cougs! Do it for public universities and new money!

I was on the fence on this one until this post.

But now I gotta pull for SMU.

Cuz, I’m from the “Old School”.

And I love my privates.

A page later, and no one else took this quick win?
Okay, I'll do it.


You keep loving your privates, buddy.
You have to if no one else does.

Isn't that an old navy saying?

I wasn't making the comparison to trash Houston. I thought it was ridiculous to trash notre dame's defense and think notre dame has a clearly better defense than Houston, but I think Houston's defense has been legitimate and impressive despite the weak schedule so far. I'm very intrigued by smu v. Houston this weekend and while I took smu because I think they're more a known commodity, I could see it going the other way.

(10-27-2021 04:24 PM)bearcatmark Wrote:  I wasn't making the comparison to trash Houston. I thought it was ridiculous to trash notre dame's defense and think notre dame has a clearly better defense than Houston, but I think Houston's defense has been legitimate and impressive despite the weak schedule so far. I'm very intrigued by smu v. Houston this weekend and while I took smu because I think they're more a known commodity, I could see it going the other way.

trash fsu scored 38 on ND- gave up close to 600 yards..
toledo scored 29 on ND
vt scored 29

ND does not not "clearly" have better defense than houston.. arguments can be made why you "think" ND is better, it is CRAZY to state they are "clearly better"
when every commonly used stat says Houston is not only better but drastically better..
and unlike Houston, ND offense isnt a detriment to the Defense

if you want to make some schedule argument i could make any argument of "norms".. how does nd and houston hold teams compared to their averages, houston still wins

stop it... your takes are getting worse by the day