(10-23-2021 04:56 PM)tpaw09 Wrote:  

(10-23-2021 04:35 PM)Atlanta Wrote:  

(10-23-2021 04:04 PM)tpaw09 Wrote:  

(10-23-2021 03:51 PM)Atlanta Wrote:  

(10-23-2021 03:05 PM)tpaw09 Wrote:  We will run out of money with your philosophy. Every game we lose with a 4th string Qb or just lose-We fire the coach . Winning makes the fans happy but wait till penny loses a few games and hear chirping from the so call experts

Forget the QB injures & think about not being able to kick field goal, where even extra pts are an adventure, going for it on 4th down in your own territory running plays that haven't worked the whole game, repeated TOs, a defense that has not stopped a pass completion all season over the middle, losing games after leading by 21 & 17 pts.....Not traits of great coaching. That said, I don't think RS' job is in jeopardy this year but if he values his job he will get some new coordinators. And BTW, hold an on campus competition for a place kicker, anything is better than what we are seeing.

Were you wanting to ship norvell out when he went 8-4 and getting blown out. Our defense has been since tommy was there but we just outscored teams. As you forget the Qb injuries, you should know the kicker is injured.
TO’s….. part of the game and RS teams is not the first Memphis team to commit TO’s.
New coaches. He was sent scrambling in the summer looking for coaches bc they were poached before the season started. MM defense is something to be desired but he had 4 and 5 men on the line yesterday and held ucf less than 300 yds . 3 TO’s by a first year qb and a fumble by our best player trying make something happen doesn’t go on the coach.

Replying directly to your comment, 1) I never suggested Norvell out, ever, 2) previous coaches have nothing to do with present defense, 3) I noted we had reasons for criticizing RS apart from the QB injures but will correct the record here. SH won the QB outright according to the coaches & media over Gunnell, he was not the 2nd string QB. But for certain, PP should never have been called upon to pass near 50 times given his passing skills - clearly a coaching decision, 4) our place kicker couldn't kick when coaches said he was ready & healthy, 5) RS' scrambling for coaches demonstrates the lack of loyalty he has among his staff, 6) UCF has lost 4 games & has shown little offense all year after losing their QB, 7) consistent TOs from game to game are always a reflection on the coaching staff..... quit making excuses & face reality. Like I said RS' job probably isn't in jeopardy this year but if he goes into next season with the same staff, it will likely be his last.

I was making a point about norvell bc he lost several in a row and was blown out, I don’t think norvell beat ucf…. RS did….
3) if you watched the game ucf was cramming 8 guys up on the ball. Running wouldn’t have worked….if we would have ran the ball and got stuffed… same people would have complained let PP throw it as they did last week. Now we know why he didn’t throw.
5) if at your job, a big company said come with us. Do the same job and make more money… would you go or stay loyal making minimum wage…
6) 4 turnovers will do it for u… look at the red zone debacles. PP had no clue. He is worst than Milton at UT.
7) have you ever coached or played.. turnovers happen… guess it was RS fault that Austin fumbled the ball

Not making excuses but know the game

Yet the coaches put PP on the field with that game plan.

(10-23-2021 04:30 PM)MemphisTigerPawr Wrote:  Every team has injuries at this point. This is just an excuse for poor preparation. I hope Silverfield turns it around but we will likely under achieve throughout his tenure. Our team is soft. Penalties and turnovers are an indicator.

Was our game plan last night to have a backup QB who is a running threat throw the ball 50x? Really? Against a defense weak vs. the run? Sorry, I just don't see us heading in the right direction until some changes are made.

Who and what that looks like idk, but right now we are a very weak and soft team. Offensively, defensively and our special teams are all soft.

Parrish did a great job last night but our game plan was terrible. Who comes up with those things anyway? Throw the ball 50 times with a brand new QB whose strength is the option versus a defense ranked somewhere in the bottom fifth nationally against the run?

Really? We are 3 plays from being 1-7 right now.

Maybe we are soft and turnovers have kills us. But the 3-4 games we avg less than 5 penalties…

I agree pp shouldn’t throw it 50 times but ucf crammed 8 in the box to stop the run.. we had to pass and they dare us and we bit….

Game plan was set for SH until right before the game… so the game plan had to change with an inexperienced QB

(10-23-2021 05:03 PM)Atlanta Wrote:  

(10-23-2021 04:56 PM)tpaw09 Wrote:  

(10-23-2021 04:35 PM)Atlanta Wrote:  

(10-23-2021 04:04 PM)tpaw09 Wrote:  

(10-23-2021 03:51 PM)Atlanta Wrote:  Forget the QB injures & think about not being able to kick field goal, where even extra pts are an adventure, going for it on 4th down in your own territory running plays that haven't worked the whole game, repeated TOs, a defense that has not stopped a pass completion all season over the middle, losing games after leading by 21 & 17 pts.....Not traits of great coaching. That said, I don't think RS' job is in jeopardy this year but if he values his job he will get some new coordinators. And BTW, hold an on campus competition for a place kicker, anything is better than what we are seeing.

Were you wanting to ship norvell out when he went 8-4 and getting blown out. Our defense has been since tommy was there but we just outscored teams. As you forget the Qb injuries, you should know the kicker is injured.
TO’s….. part of the game and RS teams is not the first Memphis team to commit TO’s.
New coaches. He was sent scrambling in the summer looking for coaches bc they were poached before the season started. MM defense is something to be desired but he had 4 and 5 men on the line yesterday and held ucf less than 300 yds . 3 TO’s by a first year qb and a fumble by our best player trying make something happen doesn’t go on the coach.

Replying directly to your comment, 1) I never suggested Norvell out, ever, 2) previous coaches have nothing to do with present defense, 3) I noted we had reasons for criticizing RS apart from the QB injures but will correct the record here. SH won the QB outright according to the coaches & media over Gunnell, he was not the 2nd string QB. But for certain, PP should never have been called upon to pass near 50 times given his passing skills - clearly a coaching decision, 4) our place kicker couldn't kick when coaches said he was ready & healthy, 5) RS' scrambling for coaches demonstrates the lack of loyalty he has among his staff, 6) UCF has lost 4 games & has shown little offense all year after losing their QB, 7) consistent TOs from game to game are always a reflection on the coaching staff..... quit making excuses & face reality. Like I said RS' job probably isn't in jeopardy this year but if he goes into next season with the same staff, it will likely be his last.

I was making a point about norvell bc he lost several in a row and was blown out, I don’t think norvell beat ucf…. RS did….
3) if you watched the game ucf was cramming 8 guys up on the ball. Running wouldn’t have worked….if we would have ran the ball and got stuffed… same people would have complained let PP throw it as they did last week. Now we know why he didn’t throw.
5) if at your job, a big company said come with us. Do the same job and make more money… would you go or stay loyal making minimum wage…
6) 4 turnovers will do it for u… look at the red zone debacles. PP had no clue. He is worst than Milton at UT.
7) have you ever coached or played.. turnovers happen… guess it was RS fault that Austin fumbled the ball

Not making excuses but know the game

Yet the coaches put PP on the field with that game plan.

Should we have forfeit or play next man up

(10-23-2021 05:05 PM)tpaw09 Wrote:  

(10-23-2021 04:30 PM)MemphisTigerPawr Wrote:  Every team has injuries at this point. This is just an excuse for poor preparation. I hope Silverfield turns it around but we will likely under achieve throughout his tenure. Our team is soft. Penalties and turnovers are an indicator.

Was our game plan last night to have a backup QB who is a running threat throw the ball 50x? Really? Against a defense weak vs. the run? Sorry, I just don't see us heading in the right direction until some changes are made.

Who and what that looks like idk, but right now we are a very weak and soft team. Offensively, defensively and our special teams are all soft.

Parrish did a great job last night but our game plan was terrible. Who comes up with those things anyway? Throw the ball 50 times with a brand new QB whose strength is the option versus a defense ranked somewhere in the bottom fifth nationally against the run?

Really? We are 3 plays from being 1-7 right now.

Maybe we are soft and turnovers have kills us. But the 3-4 games we avg less than 5 penalties…

I agree pp shouldn’t throw it 50 times but ucf crammed 8 in the box to stop the run.. we had to pass and they dare us and we bit….

Game plan was set for SH until right before the game… so the game plan had to change with an inexperienced QB

I’m hoping that’s not the case. If so, that’s awful coaching. My guess is they planned on Parrish starting. That said, it’s impossible to completely change your offense overnight.

My biggest problem wasn’t even the amount of throws since UCF was crowding the line, but that they kept him in the pocket. That’s just not his game. He was a pretty decent runner, he kept getting bottled up in the pocket and it was hard for him to escape.

Would have liked them to try a few runs near the goal line. That’s how we got our only TD. Not saying it would work, but worth a try occasionally.

(10-23-2021 03:44 PM)tpaw09 Wrote:  Pop Warner

He's dead isn't he? Would prefer a living coach if at all possible.

(10-23-2021 04:04 PM)tpaw09 Wrote:  

(10-23-2021 03:51 PM)Atlanta Wrote:  

(10-23-2021 03:05 PM)tpaw09 Wrote:  

(10-23-2021 02:53 PM)shere khan Wrote:  

(10-23-2021 02:19 PM)tpaw09 Wrote:  I agree. Who was the last coach Memphis had that was fired with a winning record…. I will wait for a response

Well by all means let's wait until we lose a bunch of games before we figure it out

We will run out of money with your philosophy. Every game we lose with a 4th string Qb or just lose-We fire the coach . Winning makes the fans happy but wait till penny loses a few games and hear chirping from the so call experts

Forget the QB injures & think about not being able to kick field goal, where even extra pts are an adventure, going for it on 4th down in your own territory running plays that haven't worked the whole game, repeated TOs, a defense that has not stopped a pass completion all season over the middle, losing games after leading by 21 & 17 pts.....Not traits of great coaching. That said, I don't think RS' job is in jeopardy this year but if he values his job he will get some new coordinators. And BTW, hold an on campus competition for a place kicker, anything is better than what we are seeing.

Were you wanting to ship norvell out when he went 8-4 and getting blown out. Our defense has been since tommy was there but we just outscored teams. As you forget the Qb injuries, you should know the kicker is injured.
TO’s….. part of the game and RS teams is not the first Memphis team to commit TO’s.
New coaches. He was sent scrambling in the summer looking for coaches bc they were poached before the season started. MM defense is something to be desired but he had 4 and 5 men on the line yesterday and held ucf less than 300 yds . 3 TO’s by a first year qb and a fumble by our best player trying make something happen doesn’t go on the coach.

Ryan,

You are taking this personally. Get off this message board and go back to work. You have a football team to coach.

Ok, here’s a question for those that may know. Did the coaching staff not know all week Henigan was hurting enough to potentially be unable to play Saturday? Did they work Seth all week in practice, and then pull the plug on game day? That seems to be poor planning on the staff.

PP needs some packages tailored to his skills and then get put into the game occasionally to get some reps. Then at least he doesn’t look as lost as he did last night at times.

But hey, I’m just a fan on a message board…

(10-23-2021 05:21 PM)bluebacker Wrote:  

(10-23-2021 03:44 PM)tpaw09 Wrote:  Pop Warner

He's dead isn't he? Would prefer a living coach if at all possible.

Lol. Yes he is but the tiger fans think we can get whomever we want we went to the cotton bowl… our next hire will be a OC or DC or possibly a rethread guy.

(10-23-2021 05:30 PM)former guest Wrote:  Ok, here’s a question for those that may know. Did the coaching staff not know all week Henigan was hurting enough to potentially be unable to play Saturday? Did they work Seth all week in practice, and then pull the plug on game day? That seems to be poor planning on the staff.

PP needs some packages tailored to his skills and then get put into the game occasionally to get some reps. Then at least he doesn’t look as lost as he did last night at times.

But hey, I’m just a fan on a message board…

Makes sense what you said… our fans know everything. When a play doesn’t work it was bad call but when it works crickets.

(10-23-2021 05:30 PM)former guest Wrote:  Ok, here’s a question for those that may know. Did the coaching staff not know all week Henigan was hurting enough to potentially be unable to play Saturday? Did they work Seth all week in practice, and then pull the plug on game day? That seems to be poor planning on the staff.

PP needs some packages tailored to his skills and then get put into the game occasionally to get some reps. Then at least he doesn’t look as lost as he did last night at times.

But hey, I’m just a fan on a message board…

I can’t imagine this is the case. Henigan is approaching veteran status with 7 starts. I’d have to believe they worked Parrish hard this week and put in some things that he could well. It’s hard to completely alter your offense in a week though. It seemed to me he was lost in the pocket and threw much better when moving or off a RPO. I thought they should roll him out more. UCF didn’t give him much time in the pocket.

(10-23-2021 05:24 PM)bluebacker Wrote:  

(10-23-2021 04:04 PM)tpaw09 Wrote:  

(10-23-2021 03:51 PM)Atlanta Wrote:  

(10-23-2021 03:05 PM)tpaw09 Wrote:  

(10-23-2021 02:53 PM)shere khan Wrote:  Well by all means let's wait until we lose a bunch of games before we figure it out

We will run out of money with your philosophy. Every game we lose with a 4th string Qb or just lose-We fire the coach . Winning makes the fans happy but wait till penny loses a few games and hear chirping from the so call experts

Forget the QB injures & think about not being able to kick field goal, where even extra pts are an adventure, going for it on 4th down in your own territory running plays that haven't worked the whole game, repeated TOs, a defense that has not stopped a pass completion all season over the middle, losing games after leading by 21 & 17 pts.....Not traits of great coaching. That said, I don't think RS' job is in jeopardy this year but if he values his job he will get some new coordinators. And BTW, hold an on campus competition for a place kicker, anything is better than what we are seeing.

Were you wanting to ship norvell out when he went 8-4 and getting blown out. Our defense has been since tommy was there but we just outscored teams. As you forget the Qb injuries, you should know the kicker is injured.
TO’s….. part of the game and RS teams is not the first Memphis team to commit TO’s.
New coaches. He was sent scrambling in the summer looking for coaches bc they were poached before the season started. MM defense is something to be desired but he had 4 and 5 men on the line yesterday and held ucf less than 300 yds . 3 TO’s by a first year qb and a fumble by our best player trying make something happen doesn’t go on the coach.

Ryan,

You are taking this personally. Get off this message board and go back to work. You have a football team to coach.

Good one… made me laugh and kinda expected it bc I am giving logic besides criticizing every move which as fans I guess that is our job…..but we sound like we came from a third world country that never seen football besides play or coached…

Thanks for the laugh

(10-23-2021 05:35 PM)tpaw09 Wrote:  

(10-23-2021 05:21 PM)bluebacker Wrote:  

(10-23-2021 03:44 PM)tpaw09 Wrote:  Pop Warner

He's dead isn't he? Would prefer a living coach if at all possible.

Lol. Yes he is but the tiger fans think we can get whomever we want we went to the cotton bowl… our next hire will be a OC or DC or possibly a rethread guy.

We’re not getting Nick Saban. Like you said, an up and coming coordinator or an experienced guy (most likely with some background issues).

(10-23-2021 05:38 PM)memtiger1987 Wrote:  

(10-23-2021 05:30 PM)former guest Wrote:  Ok, here’s a question for those that may know. Did the coaching staff not know all week Henigan was hurting enough to potentially be unable to play Saturday? Did they work Seth all week in practice, and then pull the plug on game day? That seems to be poor planning on the staff.

PP needs some packages tailored to his skills and then get put into the game occasionally to get some reps. Then at least he doesn’t look as lost as he did last night at times.

But hey, I’m just a fan on a message board…

I can’t imagine this is the case. Henigan is approaching veteran status with 7 starts. I’d have to believe they worked Parrish hard this week and put in some things that he could well. It’s hard to completely alter your offense in a week though. It seemed to me he was lost in the pocket and threw much better when moving or off a RPO. I thought they should roll him out more. UCF didn’t give him much time in the pocket.

Now that was positive and good points… I like that

(10-23-2021 05:41 PM)tpaw09 Wrote:  

(10-23-2021 05:38 PM)memtiger1987 Wrote:  

(10-23-2021 05:30 PM)former guest Wrote:  Ok, here’s a question for those that may know. Did the coaching staff not know all week Henigan was hurting enough to potentially be unable to play Saturday? Did they work Seth all week in practice, and then pull the plug on game day? That seems to be poor planning on the staff.

PP needs some packages tailored to his skills and then get put into the game occasionally to get some reps. Then at least he doesn’t look as lost as he did last night at times.

But hey, I’m just a fan on a message board…

I can’t imagine this is the case. Henigan is approaching veteran status with 7 starts. I’d have to believe they worked Parrish hard this week and put in some things that he could well. It’s hard to completely alter your offense in a week though. It seemed to me he was lost in the pocket and threw much better when moving or off a RPO. I thought they should roll him out more. UCF didn’t give him much time in the pocket.

Now that was positive and good points… I like that

It’s also very possible that Parrish looked ok running the offense in practice. It’s one thing to make throws when you’re not getting hit and another when they’re crowding the line. I have to say our offensive line did him no favors.

Still like to see better halftime adjustments though.

(10-23-2021 05:45 PM)memtiger1987 Wrote:  

(10-23-2021 05:41 PM)tpaw09 Wrote:  

(10-23-2021 05:38 PM)memtiger1987 Wrote:  

(10-23-2021 05:30 PM)former guest Wrote:  Ok, here’s a question for those that may know. Did the coaching staff not know all week Henigan was hurting enough to potentially be unable to play Saturday? Did they work Seth all week in practice, and then pull the plug on game day? That seems to be poor planning on the staff.

PP needs some packages tailored to his skills and then get put into the game occasionally to get some reps. Then at least he doesn’t look as lost as he did last night at times.

But hey, I’m just a fan on a message board…

I can’t imagine this is the case. Henigan is approaching veteran status with 7 starts. I’d have to believe they worked Parrish hard this week and put in some things that he could well. It’s hard to completely alter your offense in a week though. It seemed to me he was lost in the pocket and threw much better when moving or off a RPO. I thought they should roll him out more. UCF didn’t give him much time in the pocket.

Now that was positive and good points… I like that

It’s also very possible that Parrish looked ok running the offense in practice. It’s one thing to make throws when you’re not getting hit and another when they’re crowding the line. I have to say our offensive line did him no favors.

Still like to see better halftime adjustments though.

Dang you are on a roll…. Great points. Come by section next game I will buy you a beer..

(10-23-2021 01:27 PM)bluebacker Wrote:  Who does Memphis need to go after?

let's hire you as the coach. Silly.

LSU knew when the gig was up and pulled the plug 18 months after winning a title.

When it's not working, it's not working.

Maybe this season is just the perfect storm of bad luck and Silverfield is the fukking second coming of Bear Bryant / Nick Saban / Lou Holtz all rolled into one and will just start killing it in his third season.

He can finish this year at 5-7 / 4-8 and he'll be back for next year and I'll be rooting for him to do great - I just don't think he will.

(10-23-2021 03:57 PM)steves Wrote:  

(10-23-2021 02:48 PM)tpaw09 Wrote:  Geoff caulkins wrote a great article about don’t be stupid wanting to fire a coach playing a 4th string qb . Our fans need to read it and let it soak in

He needs a training staff. These last second qb benchings don't cut it. And where the hell is Gunnell now. Seriously, he's an hour from starting the opener and BOOM ... He's gone !!! No excuse for that crap. The kicker debacle, the rb issues ...
He's gotta figure out what winning football is about. Waiting an hour before kickoff to figure out a kid won't play is absolute B.S. !!!

believe coach said that Parrish had been practicing all week with first team. think they knew before friday he wasn't going to play...maybe nobody else knew before then

(10-23-2021 05:56 PM)tigerfan39 Wrote:  

(10-23-2021 01:27 PM)bluebacker Wrote:  Who does Memphis need to go after?

let's hire you as the coach. Silly.

No, I nominate Ima Tiger. He would be 6-2 min this year.

(10-23-2021 05:24 PM)bluebacker Wrote:  

(10-23-2021 04:04 PM)tpaw09 Wrote:  

(10-23-2021 03:51 PM)Atlanta Wrote:  

(10-23-2021 03:05 PM)tpaw09 Wrote:  

(10-23-2021 02:53 PM)shere khan Wrote:  Well by all means let's wait until we lose a bunch of games before we figure it out

We will run out of money with your philosophy. Every game we lose with a 4th string Qb or just lose-We fire the coach . Winning makes the fans happy but wait till penny loses a few games and hear chirping from the so call experts

Forget the QB injures & think about not being able to kick field goal, where even extra pts are an adventure, going for it on 4th down in your own territory running plays that haven't worked the whole game, repeated TOs, a defense that has not stopped a pass completion all season over the middle, losing games after leading by 21 & 17 pts.....Not traits of great coaching. That said, I don't think RS' job is in jeopardy this year but if he values his job he will get some new coordinators. And BTW, hold an on campus competition for a place kicker, anything is better than what we are seeing.

Were you wanting to ship norvell out when he went 8-4 and getting blown out. Our defense has been since tommy was there but we just outscored teams. As you forget the Qb injuries, you should know the kicker is injured.
TO’s….. part of the game and RS teams is not the first Memphis team to commit TO’s.
New coaches. He was sent scrambling in the summer looking for coaches bc they were poached before the season started. MM defense is something to be desired but he had 4 and 5 men on the line yesterday and held ucf less than 300 yds . 3 TO’s by a first year qb and a fumble by our best player trying make something happen doesn’t go on the coach.

Ryan,

You are taking this personally. Get off this message board and go back to work. You have a football team to coach.