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RE: Goodman: For UAB fans, the moment of truth is here
His overall premise is trash. This is not a "moment of truth" for UAB Football or especially UAB Football fans. It's a pile of whale dung even to suggest that.

UAB Football Fans have been the TRUTH since 2014 when they rose up and beat back the BOT. Geezus, Joe, wake up. I know you didn't sleep through all of that.

It's a moment of OPPORTUNITY, and there's a difference. One sets forth a future, the other is defined by the past. Joe, you know damn well that UAB and Birmingham have been getting unfairly measured by the outside unrealistic expectations of others. It's the whole damn point of the last 100 years. Stop being intellectually lazy and actually write something that is I am sure your actual point anyway:

1) Birmingham has done something for itself. Finally.
2) Loyal UAB Fans got us here. No UAB Football, no stadium.
3) Something great is happening with UAB and the city.
4) If you haven't been part of it with the UAB diehards, there's room on the bandwagon and not a bad seat in this beautiful new house.
5) Getting on board now could lead to some even greater things.
6) What a message it would send to give the Blazers some full houses.

My god, we can't help ourselves with the scarcity mentality. It's so .... Alabammer.

Joe, go have another beer, open up your column and go to the end, hit backspace until the page is clean and start over.
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RE: Goodman: For UAB fans, the moment of truth is here
Sorta difficult to sell out a game vs. UTEP in late November. Now put us playing AAC peers and I would expect great attendance. I would love Battle of the Bones to be at Protective Stadium. The tailgating/BBQ competition alone in Uptown would be a huge Birmingham attraction.
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RE: Goodman: For UAB fans, the moment of truth is here
And of course now Joe will be defensive and shift this onto "UAB Fans" - "fill it up, leave no doubt" in an intellectually dense way.

JOE, it ain't "UAB Fans" who need to show up. It's people who could BECOME Blazer fans. Geezus, I know you are not this stupid.

If he was next to me right now, I'd probably get charged with assault for thumping him in his numb nuts so hard he he'd have to swallow to breathe.
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RE: Goodman: For UAB fans, the moment of truth is here
While we're at it, who from Al Dot Com will "show up" for the moment of truth? I mean, given that it's a life or death thing, surely it will warrart actual coverage. Given that AL Dot Com is like a vulture and only shows up to circle carcasses, I'm sure they'll be front row for a change.

Think they might have an actual full-time beat writer by then who can string together sentences and, you know, actually covers the teams?

And are we gonna have turnstile counters again?

I volunteer Joe for Port a Potty duty. He can count the number of toilet paper sheets distributed and divide by 5 to get a head count.

That pile of dirty tree product will be worth exactly the same amount as Al dot Com newsprint.

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RE: Goodman: For UAB fans, the moment of truth is here
(08-06-2021 10:31 AM)bftb Wrote:  
(08-06-2021 09:45 AM)kdblazer Wrote:  We'll be fine. I just want all those people who were reluctant to show up at Legion Field to
show up now that we have a brand new venue in downtown surrounded restaurants, bars,
and other entertainment venues. It should be a easy sell to those that said no to the old grey lady.

But, but, but…..parking!

Assuming sarcasm here. However, there are twice as many parking spots available around Protective Stadium in comparison to LF.

It's going to be a great change of atmosphere for UAB, Birmingham, and everyone attending.
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RE: Goodman: For UAB fans, the moment of truth is here
(08-06-2021 01:53 PM)DuelingDragon Wrote:  And of course now Joe will be defensive and shift this onto "UAB Fans" - "fill it up, leave no doubt" in an intellectually dense way.

JOE, it ain't "UAB Fans" who need to show up. It's people who could BECOME Blazer fans. Geezus, I know you are not this stupid.

If he was next to me right now, I'd probably get charged with assault for thumping him in his numb nuts so hard he he'd have to swallow to breathe.

The media loves to crap on Blazer fans. The Shutdown certainly wasn't the first time the UAB admin crapped on Blazer fans. We even have our own fans that love to **** on fellow UAB fans and roll out the Put Up or Shut Up crap. UAB fans have put up with more bull**** than any other fan base in the United States so they can all shut the **** up. Every single one of us that's still around after the last 20 or so years ought to get a medal at halftime.
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RE: Goodman: For UAB fans, the moment of truth is here
I’m not trying to make anyone mad, but I understand what he is saying. He is basically challenging the portions of the fan base that use excuses not to support the team. Even if you don’t like to attend live sporting events, season tickets are only $200. It’s not like paying $1600 for nose bleed season tickets at Bryant Denny. I’m planning on driving up for the Liberty game and 50 yard line seats are $50 on Stubhub. Just show up and buy a couple of tickets to take your kid’s friends next door. Again, not meaning to offend anyone.
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RE: Goodman: For UAB fans, the moment of truth is here
And of course now he is being a phallus on Twitter.

I swear, no fan base in American gets lectured to more than UAB Blazers.

Joe, just admit it was a crappy column and that you missed the mark. There isn't a fan base more loyal in America than UAB's. No other fan base has done what this one has. WEcould use some help. So instead of lecturing us diehards, that if we don't somehow dig even deeper or maybe even squeeze out some children between now and Oct. 2 or else it's all a failure and that we won't get into a better conference because we suck, how about inviting the rest of the city to join us?
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RE: Goodman: For UAB fans, the moment of truth is here
(08-06-2021 02:47 PM)Ramblin Wreck Wrote:  I’m not trying to make anyone mad, but I understand what he is saying. He is basically challenging the portions of the fan base that use excuses not to support the team. Even if you don’t like to attend live sporting events, season tickets are only $200. It’s not like paying $1600 for nose bleed season tickets at Bryant Denny. I’m planning on driving up for the Liberty game and 50 yard line seats are $50 on Stubhub. Just show up and buy a couple of tickets to take your kid’s friends next door. Again, not meaning to offend anyone.

But that isn't our fan base. That's the rest of the region. That's like saying Atlanta people who don't go to Tech games are Tech fans. No, they're not. Maybe they should be. But if they don't show, that ain't on Tech fans.

He could and should say all of that. Blaming "UAB Fans" is the issue. UAB Fans show up.
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RE: Goodman: For UAB fans, the moment of truth is here
I’ve accepted that our current core base is 19k-25k. We give a lot of free tickets away, if we go above that.

I hate suggestions of moving our games to week days, to punish us in hopes of casuals attending. That likely loses the long time loyal season ticket holders that live out of state, ruins their chances of going to the games.

What we have to do is convince the Walmart/Tshirt fans that being at a UAB game is worth more than the cheap price of admission. Get them away from their TVs and watch parties. I’d rather them watch Bama and AU games at our tailgates than at home. I saw a lot of that when we went to Troy, last time.
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RE: Goodman: For UAB fans, the moment of truth is here
(08-06-2021 02:54 PM)DuelingDragon Wrote:  
(08-06-2021 02:47 PM)Ramblin Wreck Wrote:  I’m not trying to make anyone mad, but I understand what he is saying. He is basically challenging the portions of the fan base that use excuses not to support the team. Even if you don’t like to attend live sporting events, season tickets are only $200. It’s not like paying $1600 for nose bleed season tickets at Bryant Denny. I’m planning on driving up for the Liberty game and 50 yard line seats are $50 on Stubhub. Just show up and buy a couple of tickets to take your kid’s friends next door. Again, not meaning to offend anyone.

But that isn't our fan base. That's the rest of the region. That's like saying Atlanta people who don't go to Tech games are Tech fans. No, they're not. Maybe they should be. But if they don't show, that ain't on Tech fans.

He could and should say all of that. Blaming "UAB Fans" is the issue. UAB Fans show up.

True, GT has different, yet somewhat similar issues. I don’t know what the stats are now, but it use to be that 80% of the student body was not from the state of Georgia. Like myself, everyone moves away from the area after graduation. Add to that being in a SEC and pro sports area, there just aren’t a lot of fans. My guess is that most UAB grads stay a lot closer to Birmingham after graduation than Tech fans do to Atlanta. Besides the fans, hopefully the alumni and students show up. I’m from Birmingham so have been a UAB T shirt fan ever since the program started. So you have at least one. 04-cheers
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RE: Goodman: For UAB fans, the moment of truth is here
(08-06-2021 03:13 PM)Ramblin Wreck Wrote:  
(08-06-2021 02:54 PM)DuelingDragon Wrote:  
(08-06-2021 02:47 PM)Ramblin Wreck Wrote:  I’m not trying to make anyone mad, but I understand what he is saying. He is basically challenging the portions of the fan base that use excuses not to support the team. Even if you don’t like to attend live sporting events, season tickets are only $200. It’s not like paying $1600 for nose bleed season tickets at Bryant Denny. I’m planning on driving up for the Liberty game and 50 yard line seats are $50 on Stubhub. Just show up and buy a couple of tickets to take your kid’s friends next door. Again, not meaning to offend anyone.

But that isn't our fan base. That's the rest of the region. That's like saying Atlanta people who don't go to Tech games are Tech fans. No, they're not. Maybe they should be. But if they don't show, that ain't on Tech fans.

He could and should say all of that. Blaming "UAB Fans" is the issue. UAB Fans show up.

True, GT has different, yet somewhat similar issues. I don’t know what the stats are now, but it use to be that 80% of the student body was not from the state of Georgia. Like myself, everyone moves away from the area after graduation. Add to that being in a SEC and pro sports area, there just aren’t a lot of fans. My guess is that most UAB grads stay a lot closer to Birmingham after graduation than Tech fans do to Atlanta. Besides the fans, hopefully the alumni and students show up. I’m from Birmingham so have been a UAB T shirt fan ever since the program started. So you have at least one. 04-cheers

My issue with Joe's column is that it is lazy to put all the pressure on "UAB Fans" and to lecture us that our conference affiliation is riding on us. We're the ones who brought this program back from the dead.

There isn't a single one of us diehards -- the season ticket holders -- who haven't given our money, our time, our blood, sweat and tears to make this happen. The stadium exists because of US.

Joe missed an opportunity to invite the rest of Birmingham -- all those folks who've never been to UAB games, who didn't want to go to Legion Field, etc. -- to be part of it. But he'd rather finger-wag us and then get indignant when we challenge his lameness.
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RE: Goodman: For UAB fans, the moment of truth is here
(08-06-2021 01:44 PM)blazerblazer Wrote:  Sorta difficult to sell out a game vs. UTEP in late November. Now put us playing AAC peers and I would expect great attendance.

That's gonna depend on what type of AAC UAB would be in if offered an invite. ECU, SMU, Tulane, Tulsa, or Temple isn't going to excite the general fan. Matter fact, I don't even think you can rely on fanbases of other teams traveling well to Birmingham unless they are in state like Troy or Alabama St.

I think as long as UAB continues to play well that within itself will draw folks to their games. Same applies to basketball.
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(08-06-2021 03:09 PM)BlazinBham Wrote:  I’ve accepted that our current core base is 19k-25k. We give a lot of free tickets away, if we go above that.

I hate suggestions of moving our games to week days, to punish us in hopes of casuals attending. That likely loses the long time loyal season ticket holders that live out of state, ruins their chances of going to the games.

What we have to do is convince the Walmart/Tshirt fans that being at a UAB game is worth more than the cheap price of admission. Get them away from their TVs and watch parties. I’d rather them watch Bama and AU games at our tailgates than at home. I saw a lot of that when we went to Troy, last time.

I agree the core base, pre-covid, is around 19-25K. That's actually pretty good for Legion Field, and probably up from around 5K-10K during the Callaway/McGee years.

I feel good about getting that average up over 30K in Protective Stadium, but it's not on "UAB Fans" to do that.
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RE: Goodman: For UAB fans, the moment of truth is here
(08-06-2021 02:52 PM)DuelingDragon Wrote:  And of course now he is being a phallus on Twitter.

I swear, no fan base in American gets lectured to more than UAB Blazers.

Joe, just admit it was a crappy column and that you missed the mark. There isn't a fan base more loyal in America than UAB's. No other fan base has done what this one has. WEcould use some help. So instead of lecturing us diehards, that if we don't somehow dig even deeper or maybe even squeeze out some children between now and Oct. 2 or else it's all a failure and that we won't get into a better conference because we suck, how about inviting the rest of the city to join us?

Yep. I’ll never knowingly click on another article that dude writes. Screw him.
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RE: Goodman: For UAB fans, the moment of truth is here
(08-06-2021 03:22 PM)HiddenDragon Wrote:  
(08-06-2021 01:44 PM)blazerblazer Wrote:  Sorta difficult to sell out a game vs. UTEP in late November. Now put us playing AAC peers and I would expect great attendance.

That's gonna depend on what type of AAC UAB would be in if offered an invite. ECU, SMU, Tulane, Tulsa, or Temple isn't going to excite the general fan. Matter fact, I don't even think you can rely on fanbases of other teams traveling well to Birmingham unless they are in state like Troy or Alabama St.

I think as long as UAB continues to play well that within itself will draw folks to their games. Same applies to basketball.

Agree, it'd be great to get into an AAC with Houston, Cincinnati, UCF, Memphis, etc., but even if they are not in it, we still should be playing nearby regional opponents like Troy, USA, Alabama State, Alabama A&M, Georgia Southern, Louisiana, Georgia State, FAMU, etc., who can bring some fans.

I'd like to see UAB do its best to get a schedule that includes
1 P5 road guarantee
1 low P5/solid regional G5 home and home
1 in-state G5 (Troy, USA rotating home and home)
1 in-state FCS

This would help attendance and it does seem to be the general strategy. I know we have upcoming games against Troy, USA, Georgia Southern, Georgia State, Louisiana, FAMU as well as road game guarantees against LSU, Georgia and Arkansas. I'd like to lock in Alabama State and A&M on Labor Day weekend every other year to open the season. Not a big fan of the home and homes with Louisiana-Monroe and UConn simply because they are not likely to be very good.

Hoping the new stadium and a move to the AAC makes it easier to get a p5 to come to Bham.
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(08-06-2021 03:26 PM)blazers9911 Wrote:  
(08-06-2021 02:52 PM)DuelingDragon Wrote:  And of course now he is being a phallus on Twitter.

I swear, no fan base in American gets lectured to more than UAB Blazers.

Joe, just admit it was a crappy column and that you missed the mark. There isn't a fan base more loyal in America than UAB's. No other fan base has done what this one has. WEcould use some help. So instead of lecturing us diehards, that if we don't somehow dig even deeper or maybe even squeeze out some children between now and Oct. 2 or else it's all a failure and that we won't get into a better conference because we suck, how about inviting the rest of the city to join us?

Yep. I’ll never knowingly click on another article that dude writes. Screw him.

He looks like a phallus on his twitter picture..
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RE: Goodman: For UAB fans, the moment of truth is here
I think many of us were done with him, a couple of seasons ago.
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Goodman: For UAB fans, the moment of truth is here
What is the "Protective" in the stadium name? Is it a security company sponsor? Serious question from a visitor.

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RE: Goodman: For UAB fans, the moment of truth is here
(08-06-2021 05:05 PM)b2b Wrote:  What is the "Protective" in the stadium name? Is it a security company sponsor? Serious question from a visitor.

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