Browning Hall
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RE: To be elite
(03-09-2021 05:10 PM)rc0213 Wrote: (03-09-2021 04:53 PM)Stammers Wrote: (03-09-2021 04:34 PM)rc0213 Wrote: (03-09-2021 04:12 PM)Stammers Wrote: (03-09-2021 03:29 PM)rc0213 Wrote: Ummm.. Kentucky's current record is 9-15.
So, there's that.
A smart, well thought out argument, that against all odds, keeps getting more genius by the second.
So, are ad hominems all you got? I gave an opinion on the topic, and, all you and Browning Hall got are ad hominems.
Let's stick to the topic of the thread and quit doing personal attacks on people who are really trying to contribute to the forum.
You commented about my rhetorical question about Kentucky being elite. You apparently didn't read my reply to that.
So, reply to that comment and let's discuss this like mature sports fans and quit attacking someone personally.
Quote:Memphis hasn't had a sub 10 win record since late 60's.
Quote:Ummm.. Kentucky's current record is 9-15.
Ummm...they've had 7 games cancelled
He calls you out (correctly) on Kentucky having no sub 10 win seasons since the 20's and you call that an ad hominem? You feel that you are being personally attacked?
Quote:My point is people consider Kentucky an elite program. It's called a rhetorical question. Kentucky has won only one championship under Calipari. And, this year, they are 9-15. When people think Memphis isn't elite, they need to see how "elite" programs are doing.
Only one? Here is the ENTIRE list of NCAA coaches that have won more than "only" one NCAA Championship since Cal went to Kentucky.
2 Coach K
2 Jay Wright
How they are doing?
Kentucky With Cal
11 Seasons
10 NCAA appearances
1 National Championship
4 Final Four
4 Elite 8
1 Sweet 16
32 NCAA wins
US
11 Seasons
4 NCAA appearances
2 NCAA wins
Whatever you are trying to accomplish, is a complete fail on every level. Lighten up, Browning and I are having a good laugh at your opinion, not you personally.
Whatever you are trying to accomplish, is a complete fail. Yes, you two took it on a personal level, and, not kept it about the topic. I don't take anything personal. I'm just stating the obvious about you and Brown. And, it was not just what you referred to as a personal attack. And, you have not denied that you are doing personal attacks.
You just proved my point about Kentucky, even a Blue Blood elite, under Calipari, ONLY won one championship. Even Kentucky fans, and, local media, are talking about firing Calipari. Sure, he has gotten to the NCAA, but, he failed all but one time in winning the championship. And, he has gotten consistent Top 10 players every year. Memphis doesn't get that, because we don't have the budget as Power 5, nor, the tradition as long as Kentucky.
Let's recap Coach Penny's first three years:
1st year: Took over, and, was too late to recruit a full year.
2nd year: The Wiseman Infraction as wrongly enforced, resulting in Wiseman going professional, leaving Coach Penny to adjust the team and system in mid season.
3rd year: Constant cancellations, postponements and weeks where they couldn't even practice. This leads to erratic play on the court. This is partly why Kentucky's record is 9-15.
And, YET, with all this, Coach Penny keeps bringing in quality players, and, could still possibly make it to the NCAA tournament this year.
I am not saying Memphis is a traditional elite. But, you keep wanting to insinuate that. I've already cleared that and the rhetorical question about Kentucky.
Like I said, I would rather be supporting Memphis, because Coach Penny loves this city and the school, and, he has shown he can recruit and coach. This team has come a long way since the first game of this season.
Are you serious or is this a gag? You kept referencing Kentucky before stating that Memphis has not had a sub 10 win season since the 60s. Unsure of where you were going with that, I offered that Kentucky hasn’t had one since the 20s. That was my only contribution to this ridiculous thread.
From the contribution noted above, you have concluded:
1) all I have are ad hominems
2) I don’t know the meaning of rhetorical
3) I was personally attacking you
4) I took it to a personal level
Did I leave anything out? Who is attacking who here?
(This post was last modified: 03-09-2021 07:16 PM by Browning Hall.)
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