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RE: To be elite
I used to think we, Cincinnati, and Louisville were all about the same. Then when the internet became a useful tool, imagine my surprise, shock, and disappointment when I looked up how many NCs, final game appearances, and FFs each team had. We are not what Jack Eaton and Paul Heartlege implied we were. (note, I was anywhere from 7 to 12 when I was forming those opinions, so don't roast me too bad)
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RE: To be elite
(03-09-2021 04:53 PM)Stammers Wrote:  
(03-09-2021 04:34 PM)rc0213 Wrote:  
(03-09-2021 04:12 PM)Stammers Wrote:  
(03-09-2021 03:29 PM)rc0213 Wrote:  
(03-09-2021 03:27 PM)Browning Hall Wrote:  Kentucky hasn’t had one since the late 20s, so there’s that.

Ummm.. Kentucky's current record is 9-15.

So, there's that.

A smart, well thought out argument, that against all odds, keeps getting more genius by the second.

So, are ad hominems all you got? I gave an opinion on the topic, and, all you and Browning Hall got are ad hominems.

Let's stick to the topic of the thread and quit doing personal attacks on people who are really trying to contribute to the forum.

You commented about my rhetorical question about Kentucky being elite. You apparently didn't read my reply to that.

So, reply to that comment and let's discuss this like mature sports fans and quit attacking someone personally.

Quote:Memphis hasn't had a sub 10 win record since late 60's.
Quote:Ummm.. Kentucky's current record is 9-15.

Ummm...they've had 7 games cancelled

He calls you out (correctly) on Kentucky having no sub 10 win seasons since the 20's and you call that an ad hominem? You feel that you are being personally attacked? 03-lmfao

Quote:My point is people consider Kentucky an elite program. It's called a rhetorical question. Kentucky has won only one championship under Calipari. And, this year, they are 9-15. When people think Memphis isn't elite, they need to see how "elite" programs are doing.

Only one? Here is the ENTIRE list of NCAA coaches that have won more than "only" one NCAA Championship since Cal went to Kentucky.

2 Coach K
2 Jay Wright

How they are doing?

Kentucky With Cal
11 Seasons
10 NCAA appearances
1 National Championship
4 Final Four
4 Elite 8
1 Sweet 16
32 NCAA wins

US
11 Seasons
4 NCAA appearances
2 NCAA wins

Whatever you are trying to accomplish, is a complete fail on every level. Lighten up, Browning and I are having a good laugh at your opinion, not you personally.

UConn won 2 in that timeframe as well (albeit (2) different coaches). Although, I'm not sure I consider them to be all that elite a program currently. They won 4 national championships over a 15 year span--more than anyone else. Do we consider them to be an elite program?
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RE: To be elite
(03-09-2021 05:16 PM)rc0213 Wrote:  
(03-09-2021 05:12 PM)Stammers Wrote:  
(03-09-2021 05:10 PM)rc0213 Wrote:  
(03-09-2021 04:53 PM)Stammers Wrote:  
(03-09-2021 04:34 PM)rc0213 Wrote:  So, are ad hominems all you got? I gave an opinion on the topic, and, all you and Browning Hall got are ad hominems.

Let's stick to the topic of the thread and quit doing personal attacks on people who are really trying to contribute to the forum.

You commented about my rhetorical question about Kentucky being elite. You apparently didn't read my reply to that.

So, reply to that comment and let's discuss this like mature sports fans and quit attacking someone personally.

Quote:Memphis hasn't had a sub 10 win record since late 60's.
Quote:Ummm.. Kentucky's current record is 9-15.

Ummm...they've had 7 games cancelled

He calls you out (correctly) on Kentucky having no sub 10 win seasons since the 20's and you call that an ad hominem? You feel that you are being personally attacked? 03-lmfao

Quote:My point is people consider Kentucky an elite program. It's called a rhetorical question. Kentucky has won only one championship under Calipari. And, this year, they are 9-15. When people think Memphis isn't elite, they need to see how "elite" programs are doing.

Only one? Here is the ENTIRE list of NCAA coaches that have won more than "only" one NCAA Championship since Cal went to Kentucky.

2 Coach K
2 Jay Wright

How they are doing?

Kentucky With Cal
11 Seasons
10 NCAA appearances
1 National Championship
4 Final Four
4 Elite 8
1 Sweet 16
32 NCAA wins

US
11 Seasons
4 NCAA appearances
2 NCAA wins

Whatever you are trying to accomplish, is a complete fail on every level. Lighten up, Browning and I are having a good laugh at your opinion, not you personally.

Whatever you are trying to accomplish, is a complete fail. Yes, you two took it on a personal level, and, not kept it about the topic. I don't take anything personal. I'm just stating the obvious about you and Brown. And, it was not just what you referred to as a personal attack. And, you have not denied that you are doing personal attacks.

You just proved my point about Kentucky, even a Blue Blood elite, under Calipari, ONLY won one championship. Even Kentucky fans, and, local media, are talking about firing Calipari. Sure, he has gotten to the NCAA, but, he failed all but one time in winning the championship. And, he has gotten consistent Top 10 players every year. Memphis doesn't get that, because we don't have the budget as Power 5, nor, the tradition as long as Kentucky.

Let's recap Coach Penny's first three years:

1st year: Took over, and, was too late to recruit a full year.
2nd year: The Wiseman Infraction as wrongly enforced, resulting in Wiseman going professional, leaving Coach Penny to adjust the team and system in mid season.
3rd year: Constant cancellations, postponements and weeks where they couldn't even practice. This leads to erratic play on the court. This is partly why Kentucky's record is 9-15.

And, YET, with all this, Coach Penny keeps bringing in quality players, and, could still possibly make it to the NCAA tournament this year.

I am not saying Memphis is a traditional elite. But, you keep wanting to insinuate that. I've already cleared that and the rhetorical question about Kentucky.

Like I said, I would rather be supporting Memphis, because Coach Penny loves this city and the school, and, he has shown he can recruit and coach. This team has come a long way since the first game of this season.

You are neck and neck with Keeper, in this thread.

So, you really have nothing to contribute to the topic.. got it!

If you had any self awareness at all, you would understand that you are standing in the middle of FEF with your pants rolled down to your ankles.
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RE: To be elite
(03-09-2021 05:32 PM)Stammers Wrote:  
(03-09-2021 05:16 PM)rc0213 Wrote:  
(03-09-2021 05:12 PM)Stammers Wrote:  
(03-09-2021 05:10 PM)rc0213 Wrote:  
(03-09-2021 04:53 PM)Stammers Wrote:  Ummm...they've had 7 games cancelled

He calls you out (correctly) on Kentucky having no sub 10 win seasons since the 20's and you call that an ad hominem? You feel that you are being personally attacked? 03-lmfao


Only one? Here is the ENTIRE list of NCAA coaches that have won more than "only" one NCAA Championship since Cal went to Kentucky.

2 Coach K
2 Jay Wright

How they are doing?

Kentucky With Cal
11 Seasons
10 NCAA appearances
1 National Championship
4 Final Four
4 Elite 8
1 Sweet 16
32 NCAA wins

US
11 Seasons
4 NCAA appearances
2 NCAA wins

Whatever you are trying to accomplish, is a complete fail on every level. Lighten up, Browning and I are having a good laugh at your opinion, not you personally.

Whatever you are trying to accomplish, is a complete fail. Yes, you two took it on a personal level, and, not kept it about the topic. I don't take anything personal. I'm just stating the obvious about you and Brown. And, it was not just what you referred to as a personal attack. And, you have not denied that you are doing personal attacks.

You just proved my point about Kentucky, even a Blue Blood elite, under Calipari, ONLY won one championship. Even Kentucky fans, and, local media, are talking about firing Calipari. Sure, he has gotten to the NCAA, but, he failed all but one time in winning the championship. And, he has gotten consistent Top 10 players every year. Memphis doesn't get that, because we don't have the budget as Power 5, nor, the tradition as long as Kentucky.

Let's recap Coach Penny's first three years:

1st year: Took over, and, was too late to recruit a full year.
2nd year: The Wiseman Infraction as wrongly enforced, resulting in Wiseman going professional, leaving Coach Penny to adjust the team and system in mid season.
3rd year: Constant cancellations, postponements and weeks where they couldn't even practice. This leads to erratic play on the court. This is partly why Kentucky's record is 9-15.

And, YET, with all this, Coach Penny keeps bringing in quality players, and, could still possibly make it to the NCAA tournament this year.

I am not saying Memphis is a traditional elite. But, you keep wanting to insinuate that. I've already cleared that and the rhetorical question about Kentucky.

Like I said, I would rather be supporting Memphis, because Coach Penny loves this city and the school, and, he has shown he can recruit and coach. This team has come a long way since the first game of this season.

You are neck and neck with Keeper, in this thread.

So, you really have nothing to contribute to the topic.. got it!

If you had any self awareness at all, you would understand that you are standing in the middle of FEF with your pants rolled down to your ankles.

Ballin?
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RE: To be elite
(03-09-2021 05:10 PM)rc0213 Wrote:  
(03-09-2021 04:53 PM)Stammers Wrote:  
(03-09-2021 04:34 PM)rc0213 Wrote:  
(03-09-2021 04:12 PM)Stammers Wrote:  
(03-09-2021 03:29 PM)rc0213 Wrote:  Ummm.. Kentucky's current record is 9-15.

So, there's that.

A smart, well thought out argument, that against all odds, keeps getting more genius by the second.

So, are ad hominems all you got? I gave an opinion on the topic, and, all you and Browning Hall got are ad hominems.

Let's stick to the topic of the thread and quit doing personal attacks on people who are really trying to contribute to the forum.

You commented about my rhetorical question about Kentucky being elite. You apparently didn't read my reply to that.

So, reply to that comment and let's discuss this like mature sports fans and quit attacking someone personally.

Quote:Memphis hasn't had a sub 10 win record since late 60's.
Quote:Ummm.. Kentucky's current record is 9-15.

Ummm...they've had 7 games cancelled

He calls you out (correctly) on Kentucky having no sub 10 win seasons since the 20's and you call that an ad hominem? You feel that you are being personally attacked? 03-lmfao

Quote:My point is people consider Kentucky an elite program. It's called a rhetorical question. Kentucky has won only one championship under Calipari. And, this year, they are 9-15. When people think Memphis isn't elite, they need to see how "elite" programs are doing.

Only one? Here is the ENTIRE list of NCAA coaches that have won more than "only" one NCAA Championship since Cal went to Kentucky.

2 Coach K
2 Jay Wright

How they are doing?

Kentucky With Cal
11 Seasons
10 NCAA appearances
1 National Championship
4 Final Four
4 Elite 8
1 Sweet 16
32 NCAA wins

US
11 Seasons
4 NCAA appearances
2 NCAA wins

Whatever you are trying to accomplish, is a complete fail on every level. Lighten up, Browning and I are having a good laugh at your opinion, not you personally.

Whatever you are trying to accomplish, is a complete fail. Yes, you two took it on a personal level, and, not kept it about the topic. I don't take anything personal. I'm just stating the obvious about you and Brown. And, it was not just what you referred to as a personal attack. And, you have not denied that you are doing personal attacks.

You just proved my point about Kentucky, even a Blue Blood elite, under Calipari, ONLY won one championship. Even Kentucky fans, and, local media, are talking about firing Calipari. Sure, he has gotten to the NCAA, but, he failed all but one time in winning the championship. And, he has gotten consistent Top 10 players every year. Memphis doesn't get that, because we don't have the budget as Power 5, nor, the tradition as long as Kentucky.

Let's recap Coach Penny's first three years:

1st year: Took over, and, was too late to recruit a full year.
2nd year: The Wiseman Infraction as wrongly enforced, resulting in Wiseman going professional, leaving Coach Penny to adjust the team and system in mid season.
3rd year: Constant cancellations, postponements and weeks where they couldn't even practice. This leads to erratic play on the court. This is partly why Kentucky's record is 9-15.

And, YET, with all this, Coach Penny keeps bringing in quality players, and, could still possibly make it to the NCAA tournament this year.

I am not saying Memphis is a traditional elite. But, you keep wanting to insinuate that. I've already cleared that and the rhetorical question about Kentucky.

Like I said, I would rather be supporting Memphis, because Coach Penny loves this city and the school, and, he has shown he can recruit and coach. This team has come a long way since the first game of this season.

Are you serious or is this a gag? You kept referencing Kentucky before stating that Memphis has not had a sub 10 win season since the 60s. Unsure of where you were going with that, I offered that Kentucky hasn’t had one since the 20s. That was my only contribution to this ridiculous thread.

From the contribution noted above, you have concluded:

1) all I have are ad hominems
2) I don’t know the meaning of rhetorical
3) I was personally attacking you
4) I took it to a personal level

Did I leave anything out? Who is attacking who here?
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Coach Hardaway is an elite recruiter, but right now not all of his players are not playing up to an elite level. There is plenty of effort, much improvement, and some serious want to. These are all hugh steps in the right direction. If you just want to believe something fine, but I believe it is obvious by the loses this team has endured this season that the team is not now elite. I believe they are very close. They are a good basketball team now, just not elite.

The 2008 team was a worse free-throw shooting team than this years team. That said they also had two All American players and lost only 2 games. So you can be elite and not be a good free throw shooting team. This years team is showing flashes of being elite (of course the defense is elite). With eight loses and more turnovers than turnovers created by that elite defense this teams' players have not as of yet played like an elite team. That is not to say they can't get there. The talent is already there it is the execution that makes you elite.

As far as elite programs in football for example: top 3 Yale, Alabama, Princeton in that order. enough said about elite programs.
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(03-09-2021 03:29 PM)oruvoice Wrote:  Threads like this are a reminder that some of you just simply enjoy arguing. You derive pleasure from it.

No we don't and I say that happily.
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(03-09-2021 06:58 PM)Browning Hall Wrote:  
(03-09-2021 05:10 PM)rc0213 Wrote:  
(03-09-2021 04:53 PM)Stammers Wrote:  
(03-09-2021 04:34 PM)rc0213 Wrote:  
(03-09-2021 04:12 PM)Stammers Wrote:  A smart, well thought out argument, that against all odds, keeps getting more genius by the second.

So, are ad hominems all you got? I gave an opinion on the topic, and, all you and Browning Hall got are ad hominems.

Let's stick to the topic of the thread and quit doing personal attacks on people who are really trying to contribute to the forum.

You commented about my rhetorical question about Kentucky being elite. You apparently didn't read my reply to that.

So, reply to that comment and let's discuss this like mature sports fans and quit attacking someone personally.

Quote:Memphis hasn't had a sub 10 win record since late 60's.
Quote:Ummm.. Kentucky's current record is 9-15.

Ummm...they've had 7 games cancelled

He calls you out (correctly) on Kentucky having no sub 10 win seasons since the 20's and you call that an ad hominem? You feel that you are being personally attacked? 03-lmfao

Quote:My point is people consider Kentucky an elite program. It's called a rhetorical question. Kentucky has won only one championship under Calipari. And, this year, they are 9-15. When people think Memphis isn't elite, they need to see how "elite" programs are doing.

Only one? Here is the ENTIRE list of NCAA coaches that have won more than "only" one NCAA Championship since Cal went to Kentucky.

2 Coach K
2 Jay Wright

How they are doing?

Kentucky With Cal
11 Seasons
10 NCAA appearances
1 National Championship
4 Final Four
4 Elite 8
1 Sweet 16
32 NCAA wins

US
11 Seasons
4 NCAA appearances
2 NCAA wins

Whatever you are trying to accomplish, is a complete fail on every level. Lighten up, Browning and I are having a good laugh at your opinion, not you personally.

Whatever you are trying to accomplish, is a complete fail. Yes, you two took it on a personal level, and, not kept it about the topic. I don't take anything personal. I'm just stating the obvious about you and Brown. And, it was not just what you referred to as a personal attack. And, you have not denied that you are doing personal attacks.

You just proved my point about Kentucky, even a Blue Blood elite, under Calipari, ONLY won one championship. Even Kentucky fans, and, local media, are talking about firing Calipari. Sure, he has gotten to the NCAA, but, he failed all but one time in winning the championship. And, he has gotten consistent Top 10 players every year. Memphis doesn't get that, because we don't have the budget as Power 5, nor, the tradition as long as Kentucky.

Let's recap Coach Penny's first three years:

1st year: Took over, and, was too late to recruit a full year.
2nd year: The Wiseman Infraction as wrongly enforced, resulting in Wiseman going professional, leaving Coach Penny to adjust the team and system in mid season.
3rd year: Constant cancellations, postponements and weeks where they couldn't even practice. This leads to erratic play on the court. This is partly why Kentucky's record is 9-15.

And, YET, with all this, Coach Penny keeps bringing in quality players, and, could still possibly make it to the NCAA tournament this year.

I am not saying Memphis is a traditional elite. But, you keep wanting to insinuate that. I've already cleared that and the rhetorical question about Kentucky.

Like I said, I would rather be supporting Memphis, because Coach Penny loves this city and the school, and, he has shown he can recruit and coach. This team has come a long way since the first game of this season.

Are you serious or is this a gag? You kept referencing Kentucky before stating that Memphis has not had a sub 10 win season since the 60s. Unsure of where you were going with that, I offered that Kentucky hasn’t had one since the 20s. That was my only contribution to this ridiculous thread.

From the contribution noted above, you have concluded:

1) all I have are ad hominems
2) I don’t know the meaning of rhetorical
3) I was personally attacking you
4) I took it to a personal level

Did I leave anything out? Who is attacking who here?

There are times when you have moments of clarity that surprise me.
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(03-09-2021 10:53 PM)TigerBlue4Ever Wrote:  
(03-09-2021 06:58 PM)Browning Hall Wrote:  
(03-09-2021 05:10 PM)rc0213 Wrote:  
(03-09-2021 04:53 PM)Stammers Wrote:  
(03-09-2021 04:34 PM)rc0213 Wrote:  So, are ad hominems all you got? I gave an opinion on the topic, and, all you and Browning Hall got are ad hominems.

Let's stick to the topic of the thread and quit doing personal attacks on people who are really trying to contribute to the forum.

You commented about my rhetorical question about Kentucky being elite. You apparently didn't read my reply to that.

So, reply to that comment and let's discuss this like mature sports fans and quit attacking someone personally.

Quote:Memphis hasn't had a sub 10 win record since late 60's.
Quote:Ummm.. Kentucky's current record is 9-15.

Ummm...they've had 7 games cancelled

He calls you out (correctly) on Kentucky having no sub 10 win seasons since the 20's and you call that an ad hominem? You feel that you are being personally attacked? 03-lmfao

Quote:My point is people consider Kentucky an elite program. It's called a rhetorical question. Kentucky has won only one championship under Calipari. And, this year, they are 9-15. When people think Memphis isn't elite, they need to see how "elite" programs are doing.

Only one? Here is the ENTIRE list of NCAA coaches that have won more than "only" one NCAA Championship since Cal went to Kentucky.

2 Coach K
2 Jay Wright

How they are doing?

Kentucky With Cal
11 Seasons
10 NCAA appearances
1 National Championship
4 Final Four
4 Elite 8
1 Sweet 16
32 NCAA wins

US
11 Seasons
4 NCAA appearances
2 NCAA wins

Whatever you are trying to accomplish, is a complete fail on every level. Lighten up, Browning and I are having a good laugh at your opinion, not you personally.

Whatever you are trying to accomplish, is a complete fail. Yes, you two took it on a personal level, and, not kept it about the topic. I don't take anything personal. I'm just stating the obvious about you and Brown. And, it was not just what you referred to as a personal attack. And, you have not denied that you are doing personal attacks.

You just proved my point about Kentucky, even a Blue Blood elite, under Calipari, ONLY won one championship. Even Kentucky fans, and, local media, are talking about firing Calipari. Sure, he has gotten to the NCAA, but, he failed all but one time in winning the championship. And, he has gotten consistent Top 10 players every year. Memphis doesn't get that, because we don't have the budget as Power 5, nor, the tradition as long as Kentucky.

Let's recap Coach Penny's first three years:

1st year: Took over, and, was too late to recruit a full year.
2nd year: The Wiseman Infraction as wrongly enforced, resulting in Wiseman going professional, leaving Coach Penny to adjust the team and system in mid season.
3rd year: Constant cancellations, postponements and weeks where they couldn't even practice. This leads to erratic play on the court. This is partly why Kentucky's record is 9-15.

And, YET, with all this, Coach Penny keeps bringing in quality players, and, could still possibly make it to the NCAA tournament this year.

I am not saying Memphis is a traditional elite. But, you keep wanting to insinuate that. I've already cleared that and the rhetorical question about Kentucky.

Like I said, I would rather be supporting Memphis, because Coach Penny loves this city and the school, and, he has shown he can recruit and coach. This team has come a long way since the first game of this season.

Are you serious or is this a gag? You kept referencing Kentucky before stating that Memphis has not had a sub 10 win season since the 60s. Unsure of where you were going with that, I offered that Kentucky hasn’t had one since the 20s. That was my only contribution to this ridiculous thread.

From the contribution noted above, you have concluded:

1) all I have are ad hominems
2) I don’t know the meaning of rhetorical
3) I was personally attacking you
4) I took it to a personal level

Did I leave anything out? Who is attacking who here?

There are times when you have moments of clarity that surprise me.

At your age, waking up and remembering who you are surprises you.
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Is UConn an elite program (4 NCs in last 23 years)?
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(03-10-2021 09:38 AM)micman Wrote:  Is UConn an elite program (4 NCs in last 23 years)?

There is a difference between an elite program and an elite team.
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(03-10-2021 11:28 AM)geosnooker2000 Wrote:  
(03-10-2021 09:38 AM)micman Wrote:  Is UConn an elite program (4 NCs in last 23 years)?

There is a difference between an elite program and an elite team.

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I remember what it was like when Cal was here. That was an elite stretch for us.

When you have an elite team...

1. You are watching the other top ten programs all year and worrying about getting a top four seed to the tourney.
2. You are disappointed about losing a top recruit, but still have two or three already signed
3. You can't get a ticket to a home game
4. You don't need ESPNU
5. You don't have to win your conference tourney to get a bid.

We seem to have #2 covered fairly well, but that is the only one. This year #3 is not relevant, but let's grant ourselves #3.

That means we have met 2 of 5 things we need to be elite.

We aren't elite right now. We just aren't.

So what? Except for a couple of years with Cal, we never have been. That's not who we are.

We are Tigers.
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(03-10-2021 08:13 AM)Browning Hall Wrote:  
(03-09-2021 10:53 PM)TigerBlue4Ever Wrote:  
(03-09-2021 06:58 PM)Browning Hall Wrote:  
(03-09-2021 05:10 PM)rc0213 Wrote:  
(03-09-2021 04:53 PM)Stammers Wrote:  Ummm...they've had 7 games cancelled

He calls you out (correctly) on Kentucky having no sub 10 win seasons since the 20's and you call that an ad hominem? You feel that you are being personally attacked? 03-lmfao


Only one? Here is the ENTIRE list of NCAA coaches that have won more than "only" one NCAA Championship since Cal went to Kentucky.

2 Coach K
2 Jay Wright

How they are doing?

Kentucky With Cal
11 Seasons
10 NCAA appearances
1 National Championship
4 Final Four
4 Elite 8
1 Sweet 16
32 NCAA wins

US
11 Seasons
4 NCAA appearances
2 NCAA wins

Whatever you are trying to accomplish, is a complete fail on every level. Lighten up, Browning and I are having a good laugh at your opinion, not you personally.

Whatever you are trying to accomplish, is a complete fail. Yes, you two took it on a personal level, and, not kept it about the topic. I don't take anything personal. I'm just stating the obvious about you and Brown. And, it was not just what you referred to as a personal attack. And, you have not denied that you are doing personal attacks.

You just proved my point about Kentucky, even a Blue Blood elite, under Calipari, ONLY won one championship. Even Kentucky fans, and, local media, are talking about firing Calipari. Sure, he has gotten to the NCAA, but, he failed all but one time in winning the championship. And, he has gotten consistent Top 10 players every year. Memphis doesn't get that, because we don't have the budget as Power 5, nor, the tradition as long as Kentucky.

Let's recap Coach Penny's first three years:

1st year: Took over, and, was too late to recruit a full year.
2nd year: The Wiseman Infraction as wrongly enforced, resulting in Wiseman going professional, leaving Coach Penny to adjust the team and system in mid season.
3rd year: Constant cancellations, postponements and weeks where they couldn't even practice. This leads to erratic play on the court. This is partly why Kentucky's record is 9-15.

And, YET, with all this, Coach Penny keeps bringing in quality players, and, could still possibly make it to the NCAA tournament this year.

I am not saying Memphis is a traditional elite. But, you keep wanting to insinuate that. I've already cleared that and the rhetorical question about Kentucky.

Like I said, I would rather be supporting Memphis, because Coach Penny loves this city and the school, and, he has shown he can recruit and coach. This team has come a long way since the first game of this season.

Are you serious or is this a gag? You kept referencing Kentucky before stating that Memphis has not had a sub 10 win season since the 60s. Unsure of where you were going with that, I offered that Kentucky hasn’t had one since the 20s. That was my only contribution to this ridiculous thread.

From the contribution noted above, you have concluded:

1) all I have are ad hominems
2) I don’t know the meaning of rhetorical
3) I was personally attacking you
4) I took it to a personal level

Did I leave anything out? Who is attacking who here?

There are times when you have moments of clarity that surprise me.

At your age, waking up and remembering who you are surprises you.

pretty sure yall are both the same age

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(03-09-2021 10:53 PM)TigerBlue4Ever Wrote:  There are times when you have moments of clarity that surprise me.

At your age, waking up and remembering who you are surprises you.

You aint right man, but you aint wrong either.
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(03-10-2021 12:02 PM)BandwagonJumper Wrote:  
(03-10-2021 08:13 AM)Browning Hall Wrote:  
(03-09-2021 10:53 PM)TigerBlue4Ever Wrote:  
(03-09-2021 06:58 PM)Browning Hall Wrote:  
(03-09-2021 05:10 PM)rc0213 Wrote:  Whatever you are trying to accomplish, is a complete fail. Yes, you two took it on a personal level, and, not kept it about the topic. I don't take anything personal. I'm just stating the obvious about you and Brown. And, it was not just what you referred to as a personal attack. And, you have not denied that you are doing personal attacks.

You just proved my point about Kentucky, even a Blue Blood elite, under Calipari, ONLY won one championship. Even Kentucky fans, and, local media, are talking about firing Calipari. Sure, he has gotten to the NCAA, but, he failed all but one time in winning the championship. And, he has gotten consistent Top 10 players every year. Memphis doesn't get that, because we don't have the budget as Power 5, nor, the tradition as long as Kentucky.

Let's recap Coach Penny's first three years:

1st year: Took over, and, was too late to recruit a full year.
2nd year: The Wiseman Infraction as wrongly enforced, resulting in Wiseman going professional, leaving Coach Penny to adjust the team and system in mid season.
3rd year: Constant cancellations, postponements and weeks where they couldn't even practice. This leads to erratic play on the court. This is partly why Kentucky's record is 9-15.

And, YET, with all this, Coach Penny keeps bringing in quality players, and, could still possibly make it to the NCAA tournament this year.

I am not saying Memphis is a traditional elite. But, you keep wanting to insinuate that. I've already cleared that and the rhetorical question about Kentucky.

Like I said, I would rather be supporting Memphis, because Coach Penny loves this city and the school, and, he has shown he can recruit and coach. This team has come a long way since the first game of this season.

Are you serious or is this a gag? You kept referencing Kentucky before stating that Memphis has not had a sub 10 win season since the 60s. Unsure of where you were going with that, I offered that Kentucky hasn’t had one since the 20s. That was my only contribution to this ridiculous thread.

From the contribution noted above, you have concluded:

1) all I have are ad hominems
2) I don’t know the meaning of rhetorical
3) I was personally attacking you
4) I took it to a personal level

Did I leave anything out? Who is attacking who here?

There are times when you have moments of clarity that surprise me.

At your age, waking up and remembering who you are surprises you.

pretty sure yall are both the same age

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03-lmfao His old ass is older than my old ass.
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(03-11-2021 07:32 PM)TigerBlue4Ever Wrote:  
(03-10-2021 12:02 PM)BandwagonJumper Wrote:  
(03-10-2021 08:13 AM)Browning Hall Wrote:  
(03-09-2021 10:53 PM)TigerBlue4Ever Wrote:  
(03-09-2021 06:58 PM)Browning Hall Wrote:  Are you serious or is this a gag? You kept referencing Kentucky before stating that Memphis has not had a sub 10 win season since the 60s. Unsure of where you were going with that, I offered that Kentucky hasn’t had one since the 20s. That was my only contribution to this ridiculous thread.

From the contribution noted above, you have concluded:

1) all I have are ad hominems
2) I don’t know the meaning of rhetorical
3) I was personally attacking you
4) I took it to a personal level

Did I leave anything out? Who is attacking who here?

There are times when you have moments of clarity that surprise me.

At your age, waking up and remembering who you are surprises you.

pretty sure yall are both the same age

[Image: 200.gif]

03-lmfao His old ass is older than my old ass.

By days, but neither one of us are actually “old” so stop this nonsense.
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(03-12-2021 07:08 AM)Browning Hall Wrote:  
(03-11-2021 07:32 PM)TigerBlue4Ever Wrote:  
(03-10-2021 12:02 PM)BandwagonJumper Wrote:  
(03-10-2021 08:13 AM)Browning Hall Wrote:  
(03-09-2021 10:53 PM)TigerBlue4Ever Wrote:  There are times when you have moments of clarity that surprise me.

At your age, waking up and remembering who you are surprises you.

pretty sure yall are both the same age

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03-lmfao His old ass is older than my old ass.

By days, but neither one of us are actually “old” so stop this nonsense.

Speak for yourself. They say you're only as old as you feel, I must be going on 85 then. I could still take you one on one even if you are like 7 feet tall.
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