I don't think Trump won Michigan. It seems like Detroit had the largest fraud organization in history, as Joe Biden promised, but 160,000 votes is a Yuuge amount of fraud. I would think they would have figured out voting machine fraud, which would be the way to generate that much (unless they have a totally opaque system--Georgia has the system but has paper backup). And hand fraud--160,000 is a lot.

I have no doubt Biden stole Georgia. And a good chance he stole WI, AZ, NV and PA. That makes it 248 Trump, 243 Biden with 47 unclear.

(12-03-2020 10:49 AM)bullet Wrote:  I don't think Trump won Michigan. It seems like Detroit had the largest fraud organization in history, as Joe Biden promised, but 160,000 votes is a Yuuge amount of fraud. I would think they would have figured out voting machine fraud, which would be the way to generate that much (unless they have a totally opaque system--Georgia has the system but has paper backup). And hand fraud--160,000 is a lot.

I have no doubt Biden stole Georgia. And a good chance he stole WI, AZ, NV and PA. That makes it 248 Trump, 243 Biden with 47 unclear.

Memorize these 5 words for me please.

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Woman
Man
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TV

(12-03-2020 09:04 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(12-03-2020 08:53 AM)Bear Catlett Wrote:  

(12-03-2020 07:58 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(12-03-2020 07:49 AM)Bear Catlett Wrote:  I'm still just wondering how Trump went from being up 55-43 election night to losing Pennsylvania... all due to the magical mail in ballots... that came about only due to covid19... that magically appeared as soon as the impeachment farce flamed out... that was based on a 2nd hand account of one phone call... after a multi year Russia collusion hoax was proven to be all lies...

...I'm sure I'm forgetting some other details.

If you're STILL wondering this, you might just be a complete idiot.

PA, like MI was not allowed to count mail in ballots before election day. Additionally large counties, which are usually democratic, have way more votes than rural counties and they report their results all at once and the take longer to get them sent in to the state. So when you combine the mail in ballots processed later, which again were heavily democratic, with the blue city votes, you get way more Biden votes than trump votes. It's not rocket science.

And again, if you don't believe it, just ask the Super Bowl LI Champion Atlanta Falcons.

And every dadgummed one of those mail in votes was legit and verified I'm sure.

They have people verify those things...if you don't/can't believe or trust that without any evidence of systemic fraud shown, there is no America left. Just leave.

It's madness.

Do you believe all the mail in votes in the states trump won? Yeah, thought so.

How many states did Trump flip?

How many states did Harris... er, uh... Biden flip?

Hmmmm... what could have made that happen? The enormous popularity of the charismatic Joe Biden?

Yeah, that's the ticket.

(12-03-2020 09:18 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(12-03-2020 09:16 AM)maximus Wrote:  

(12-03-2020 07:34 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  Where exactly is the insanity here?

You do realize we have around 3,007 counties in the United States. How many had minor hiccups like this, less than 10? Last I checked, we have humans running our elections for the most part...and they frequently make mistakes. That's why they take a few weeks before they certify things and why they do canvasses.

Seems a tad bit of an overreaction here.

Hiccup?

Youre [sic] a dope

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What was it then? Someone purposely hiding votes? I suppose you have a evidence of that?

Oh, you don't? So yeah, none of this equates to fraud.

Dope.

Where I come from, doing your job with utmost quality 100% of the time is required. You know why? people can die if its not.

Can you imagine if a pilot performs his duties and has hiccups? Flames and wreckage numbnuts.

Voting is the very heart of our democracy and you excuse away "hiccups" as if its ok, nevermind that it happens every time there is an election. If its not 100% correct then "every vote doesnt count". Owl is correct, the left has no desire to get it 100% correct.... because that wouldnt let boxes of votes sit around waiting to be discovered when they are needed.

Oh... also where I come from. we live by the credo "no excuses". But by all means, keep coming up with yours.

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(12-03-2020 11:45 AM)maximus Wrote:  

(12-03-2020 09:18 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(12-03-2020 09:16 AM)maximus Wrote:  

(12-03-2020 07:34 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  Where exactly is the insanity here?

You do realize we have around 3,007 counties in the United States. How many had minor hiccups like this, less than 10? Last I checked, we have humans running our elections for the most part...and they frequently make mistakes. That's why they take a few weeks before they certify things and why they do canvasses.

Seems a tad bit of an overreaction here.

Hiccup?

Youre [sic] a dope

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What was it then? Someone purposely hiding votes? I suppose you have a evidence of that?

Oh, you don't? So yeah, none of this equates to fraud.

Dope.

Where I come from, doing your job with utmost quality 100% of the time is required. You know why? people can die if its not.

Can you imagine if a pilot performs his duties and has hiccups? Flames and wreckage numbnuts.

Voting is the very heart of our democracy and you excuse away "hiccups" as if its ok, nevermind that it happens every time there is an election. If its not 100% correct then "every vote doesnt count". Owl is correct, the left has no desire to get it 100% correct.... because that wouldnt let boxes of votes sit around waiting to be discovered when they are needed.

Oh... also where I come from. we live by the credo "no excuses". But by all means, keep coming up with yours.

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What you are asking is IMPOSSIBLE.

And in case you hadn't noticed, this is a red county. trump won 13,482 of the 22,417 votes cast, or 60.1%.
https://www.co.chenango.ny.us/elections/...esults.pdf



It was a hiccup in a republican county. Legal votes received before election day, were just misplaced. It happens...you know....because humans. This was not a fraud from the left.

(12-03-2020 12:20 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(12-03-2020 11:45 AM)maximus Wrote:  

(12-03-2020 09:18 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(12-03-2020 09:16 AM)maximus Wrote:  

(12-03-2020 07:34 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  Where exactly is the insanity here?

You do realize we have around 3,007 counties in the United States. How many had minor hiccups like this, less than 10? Last I checked, we have humans running our elections for the most part...and they frequently make mistakes. That's why they take a few weeks before they certify things and why they do canvasses.

Seems a tad bit of an overreaction here.

Hiccup?

Youre [sic] a dope

Sent from my SM-N975U using Tapatalk

What was it then? Someone purposely hiding votes? I suppose you have a evidence of that?

Oh, you don't? So yeah, none of this equates to fraud.

Dope.

Where I come from, doing your job with utmost quality 100% of the time is required. You know why? people can die if its not.

Can you imagine if a pilot performs his duties and has hiccups? Flames and wreckage numbnuts.

Voting is the very heart of our democracy and you excuse away "hiccups" as if its ok, nevermind that it happens every time there is an election. If its not 100% correct then "every vote doesnt count". Owl is correct, the left has no desire to get it 100% correct.... because that wouldnt let boxes of votes sit around waiting to be discovered when they are needed.

Oh... also where I come from. we live by the credo "no excuses". But by all means, keep coming up with yours.

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What you are asking is IMPOSSIBLE.

And in case you hadn't noticed, this is a red county. trump won 13,482 of the 22,417 votes cast, or 60.1%.
https://www.co.chenango.ny.us/elections/...esults.pdf



It was a hiccup in a republican county. Legal votes received before election day, were just misplaced. It happens...you know....because humans. This was not a fraud from the left.

I dont care if the county was run by ancestors of E.T.

There is no room for error and its not impossible.

We are the most advanced country in the history of the world.... it can be done and should be done but the pols in charge absolutely refuse to make it happen.

I wonder why?

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(12-03-2020 12:26 PM)maximus Wrote:  

(12-03-2020 12:20 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(12-03-2020 11:45 AM)maximus Wrote:  

(12-03-2020 09:18 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(12-03-2020 09:16 AM)maximus Wrote:  Hiccup?

Youre [sic] a dope

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What was it then? Someone purposely hiding votes? I suppose you have a evidence of that?

Oh, you don't? So yeah, none of this equates to fraud.

Dope.

Where I come from, doing your job with utmost quality 100% of the time is required. You know why? people can die if its not.

Can you imagine if a pilot performs his duties and has hiccups? Flames and wreckage numbnuts.

Voting is the very heart of our democracy and you excuse away "hiccups" as if its ok, nevermind that it happens every time there is an election. If its not 100% correct then "every vote doesnt count". Owl is correct, the left has no desire to get it 100% correct.... because that wouldnt let boxes of votes sit around waiting to be discovered when they are needed.

Oh... also where I come from. we live by the credo "no excuses". But by all means, keep coming up with yours.

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What you are asking is IMPOSSIBLE.

And in case you hadn't noticed, this is a red county. trump won 13,482 of the 22,417 votes cast, or 60.1%.
https://www.co.chenango.ny.us/elections/...esults.pdf



It was a hiccup in a republican county. Legal votes received before election day, were just misplaced. It happens...you know....because humans. This was not a fraud from the left.

I dont care if the county was run by ancestors of E.T.

There is no room for error and its not impossible.

We are the most advanced country in the history of the world.... it can be done and should be done but the pols in charge absolutely refuse to make it happen.

I wonder why?

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Just ridiculous. You want 160 million votes cast and not one hiccup or mistake?

This was an incredibly well run election...the best I can remember in my lifetime, but, you do you.

You only seem to be upset because trump lost. How sad is that?

(12-03-2020 11:28 AM)Bear Catlett Wrote:  

(12-03-2020 09:04 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(12-03-2020 08:53 AM)Bear Catlett Wrote:  

(12-03-2020 07:58 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(12-03-2020 07:49 AM)Bear Catlett Wrote:  I'm still just wondering how Trump went from being up 55-43 election night to losing Pennsylvania... all due to the magical mail in ballots... that came about only due to covid19... that magically appeared as soon as the impeachment farce flamed out... that was based on a 2nd hand account of one phone call... after a multi year Russia collusion hoax was proven to be all lies...

...I'm sure I'm forgetting some other details.

If you're STILL wondering this, you might just be a complete idiot.

PA, like MI was not allowed to count mail in ballots before election day. Additionally large counties, which are usually democratic, have way more votes than rural counties and they report their results all at once and the take longer to get them sent in to the state. So when you combine the mail in ballots processed later, which again were heavily democratic, with the blue city votes, you get way more Biden votes than trump votes. It's not rocket science.

And again, if you don't believe it, just ask the Super Bowl LI Champion Atlanta Falcons.

And every dadgummed one of those mail in votes was legit and verified I'm sure.

They have people verify those things...if you don't/can't believe or trust that without any evidence of systemic fraud shown, there is no America left. Just leave.

It's madness.

Do you believe all the mail in votes in the states trump won? Yeah, thought so.

How many states did Trump flip?

How many states did Harris... er, uh... Biden flip?

Hmmmm... what could have made that happen? The enormous popularity of the charismatic Joe Biden?

Yeah, that's the ticket.

Please let the record note that hammerandsickletom has no explanation as to how Trump's cheating resulted in him flipping exactly zero states and the non-stop campaigning of the tireless Joe Biden swung FIVE states to his favor.

(12-03-2020 12:51 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(12-03-2020 12:26 PM)maximus Wrote:  

(12-03-2020 12:20 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(12-03-2020 11:45 AM)maximus Wrote:  

(12-03-2020 09:18 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  What was it then? Someone purposely hiding votes? I suppose you have a evidence of that?

Oh, you don't? So yeah, none of this equates to fraud.

Dope.

Where I come from, doing your job with utmost quality 100% of the time is required. You know why? people can die if its not.

Can you imagine if a pilot performs his duties and has hiccups? Flames and wreckage numbnuts.

Voting is the very heart of our democracy and you excuse away "hiccups" as if its ok, nevermind that it happens every time there is an election. If its not 100% correct then "every vote doesnt count". Owl is correct, the left has no desire to get it 100% correct.... because that wouldnt let boxes of votes sit around waiting to be discovered when they are needed.

Oh... also where I come from. we live by the credo "no excuses". But by all means, keep coming up with yours.

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What you are asking is IMPOSSIBLE.

And in case you hadn't noticed, this is a red county. trump won 13,482 of the 22,417 votes cast, or 60.1%.
https://www.co.chenango.ny.us/elections/...esults.pdf



It was a hiccup in a republican county. Legal votes received before election day, were just misplaced. It happens...you know....because humans. This was not a fraud from the left.

I dont care if the county was run by ancestors of E.T.

There is no room for error and its not impossible.

We are the most advanced country in the history of the world.... it can be done and should be done but the pols in charge absolutely refuse to make it happen.

I wonder why?

Sent from my SM-N975U using Tapatalk

Just ridiculous. You want 160 million votes cast and not one hiccup or mistake?

This was an incredibly well run election...the best I can remember in my lifetime, but, you do you.

You only seem to be upset because trump lost. How sad is that?

Yes, I expect perfection when it comes to voting. Because if its not perfect its not legitimate.

Again, I didnt vote for Trump or Biden.

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(12-03-2020 01:02 PM)Bear Catlett Wrote:  

(12-03-2020 11:28 AM)Bear Catlett Wrote:  

(12-03-2020 09:04 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(12-03-2020 08:53 AM)Bear Catlett Wrote:  

(12-03-2020 07:58 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  If you're STILL wondering this, you might just be a complete idiot.

PA, like MI was not allowed to count mail in ballots before election day. Additionally large counties, which are usually democratic, have way more votes than rural counties and they report their results all at once and the take longer to get them sent in to the state. So when you combine the mail in ballots processed later, which again were heavily democratic, with the blue city votes, you get way more Biden votes than trump votes. It's not rocket science.

And again, if you don't believe it, just ask the Super Bowl LI Champion Atlanta Falcons.

And every dadgummed one of those mail in votes was legit and verified I'm sure.

They have people verify those things...if you don't/can't believe or trust that without any evidence of systemic fraud shown, there is no America left. Just leave.

It's madness.

Do you believe all the mail in votes in the states trump won? Yeah, thought so.

How many states did Trump flip?

How many states did Harris... er, uh... Biden flip?

Hmmmm... what could have made that happen? The enormous popularity of the charismatic Joe Biden?

Yeah, that's the ticket.

Please let the record note that hammerandsickletom has no explanation as to how Trump's cheating resulted in him flipping exactly zero states and the non-stop campaigning of the tireless Joe Biden swung FIVE states to his favor.

Who said trump cheated? trump did worse in pretty much every state, red and blue alike. He lost because people were tired of his nonsense and more than likely due to his horrible handling of the pandemic. That's why the GOP did just fine in the congressional and down ballot races.

trump BARELY won those states in 2016 and you also had two viable third party candidates last time around whereas you only had about a half of one this time. It did not take much to flip them.

trump lost this all on his own.

(12-03-2020 01:06 PM)maximus Wrote:  

(12-03-2020 12:51 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(12-03-2020 12:26 PM)maximus Wrote:  

(12-03-2020 12:20 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(12-03-2020 11:45 AM)maximus Wrote:  Where I come from, doing your job with utmost quality 100% of the time is required. You know why? people can die if its not.

Can you imagine if a pilot performs his duties and has hiccups? Flames and wreckage numbnuts.

Voting is the very heart of our democracy and you excuse away "hiccups" as if its ok, nevermind that it happens every time there is an election. If its not 100% correct then "every vote doesnt count". Owl is correct, the left has no desire to get it 100% correct.... because that wouldnt let boxes of votes sit around waiting to be discovered when they are needed.

Oh... also where I come from. we live by the credo "no excuses". But by all means, keep coming up with yours.

Sent from my SM-N975U using Tapatalk

What you are asking is IMPOSSIBLE.

And in case you hadn't noticed, this is a red county. trump won 13,482 of the 22,417 votes cast, or 60.1%.
https://www.co.chenango.ny.us/elections/...esults.pdf



It was a hiccup in a republican county. Legal votes received before election day, were just misplaced. It happens...you know....because humans. This was not a fraud from the left.

I dont care if the county was run by ancestors of E.T.

There is no room for error and its not impossible.

We are the most advanced country in the history of the world.... it can be done and should be done but the pols in charge absolutely refuse to make it happen.

I wonder why?

Sent from my SM-N975U using Tapatalk

Just ridiculous. You want 160 million votes cast and not one hiccup or mistake?

This was an incredibly well run election...the best I can remember in my lifetime, but, you do you.

You only seem to be upset because trump lost. How sad is that?

Yes, I expect perfection when it comes to voting. Because if its not perfect its not legitimate.

Again, I didnt vote for Trump or Biden.

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So, trump is not a legitimate president. Good to know!

(12-03-2020 01:14 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(12-03-2020 01:02 PM)Bear Catlett Wrote:  

(12-03-2020 11:28 AM)Bear Catlett Wrote:  

(12-03-2020 09:04 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(12-03-2020 08:53 AM)Bear Catlett Wrote:  And every dadgummed one of those mail in votes was legit and verified I'm sure.

They have people verify those things...if you don't/can't believe or trust that without any evidence of systemic fraud shown, there is no America left. Just leave.

It's madness.

Do you believe all the mail in votes in the states trump won? Yeah, thought so.

How many states did Trump flip?

How many states did Harris... er, uh... Biden flip?

Hmmmm... what could have made that happen? The enormous popularity of the charismatic Joe Biden?

Yeah, that's the ticket.

Please let the record note that hammerandsickletom has no explanation as to how Trump's cheating resulted in him flipping exactly zero states and the non-stop campaigning of the tireless Joe Biden swung FIVE states to his favor.

Who said trump cheated? trump did worse in pretty much every state, red and blue alike. He lost because people were tired of his nonsense and more than likely due to his horrible handling of the pandemic. That's why the GOP did just fine in the congressional and down ballot races.

trump BARELY won those states in 2016 and you also had two viable third party candidates last time around whereas you only had about a half of one this time. It did not take much to flip them.

trump lost this all on his own.

Yet he got more votes this year than 2016.

Keep trying.

(12-03-2020 12:51 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  This was an incredibly well run election...the best I can remember in my lifetime, but, you do you.

This election was a complete clusterfvck. The level of dishonesty it takes to write something like this would be shocking if you didn't already have a history of posting such complete and utter bull****.

(12-03-2020 01:36 PM)Bear Catlett Wrote:  

(12-03-2020 01:14 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(12-03-2020 01:02 PM)Bear Catlett Wrote:  

(12-03-2020 11:28 AM)Bear Catlett Wrote:  

(12-03-2020 09:04 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  They have people verify those things...if you don't/can't believe or trust that without any evidence of systemic fraud shown, there is no America left. Just leave.

It's madness.

Do you believe all the mail in votes in the states trump won? Yeah, thought so.

How many states did Trump flip?

How many states did Harris... er, uh... Biden flip?

Hmmmm... what could have made that happen? The enormous popularity of the charismatic Joe Biden?

Yeah, that's the ticket.

Please let the record note that hammerandsickletom has no explanation as to how Trump's cheating resulted in him flipping exactly zero states and the non-stop campaigning of the tireless Joe Biden swung FIVE states to his favor.

Who said trump cheated? trump did worse in pretty much every state, red and blue alike. He lost because people were tired of his nonsense and more than likely due to his horrible handling of the pandemic. That's why the GOP did just fine in the congressional and down ballot races.

trump BARELY won those states in 2016 and you also had two viable third party candidates last time around whereas you only had about a half of one this time. It did not take much to flip them.

trump lost this all on his own.

Yet he got more votes this year than 2016.

Keep trying.

Ummm....dude...more people voted.

Don't quit your day job. Geez.

(12-03-2020 01:46 PM)appst89 Wrote:  

(12-03-2020 12:51 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  This was an incredibly well run election...the best I can remember in my lifetime, but, you do you.

This election was a complete clusterfvck. The level of dishonesty it takes to write something like this would be shocking if you didn't already have a history of posting such complete and utter bull****.

My guy lost...it was a cluster****.



Sad. I'm more than confident that facts and history will support my conclusions.

You just keep on screaming at the sky.

(12-03-2020 01:52 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(12-03-2020 01:46 PM)appst89 Wrote:  

(12-03-2020 12:51 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  This was an incredibly well run election...the best I can remember in my lifetime, but, you do you.

This election was a complete clusterfvck. The level of dishonesty it takes to write something like this would be shocking if you didn't already have a history of posting such complete and utter bull****.

My guy lost...it was a cluster****.



Sad. I'm more than confident that facts and history will support my conclusions.

You just keep on screaming at the sky.

As I said, posting complete and utter bull****. You're a dishonest hypocrite.