(10-31-2019 11:58 AM)gdunn Wrote:  This is where it's going to get out of hands.. Ladies and gents I'm calling it.. Schiff is going to overstep, demand documents not important to the case, and this will end up in front of the SCOTUS

Puh-lease..... the only place this is going to end up is as reruns on Comedy Central.......

(10-31-2019 11:06 AM)bullet Wrote:  Then they need to consider walkouts on the open hearings until they get subpoena power.

They'll have subpoena power.... From what I've read, it'll be the same arrangement the Republicans provided to Democrats during the Clinton impeachment proceedings.

(10-31-2019 12:15 PM)BobcatEngineer Wrote:  

(10-31-2019 11:06 AM)bullet Wrote:  Then they need to consider walkouts on the open hearings until they get subpoena power.

They'll have subpoena power.... From what I've read, it'll be the same arrangement the Republicans provided to Democrats during the Clinton impeachment proceedings.

Negative Ghost Rider.. The pattern is full:

In both the Nixon and Clinton impeachment inquiry resolutions, the minority party on the investigating committee was granted the power to subpoena — something the minority party does not normally have. Subpoenas were still subject to a vote of the committee, giving the majority party a way to block them.

https://www.latimes.com/politics/story/2...osi-doesnt


Democrats also changed rules about committee subpoenas from those used in the Clinton impeachment. While the panel’s top Republican still will have the ability to call for subpoenas, that ranking member no longer has the ability to call for a committee vote if they disagree with a subpoena the chairman wants to issue.

That would take away Republican power to act as a check on the authority of the chairman, which would encourage reasonableness from both sides, Republican aides say.

While the rules would allow Trump’s lawyers to participate in the eventual Judiciary Committee portion of the impeachment inquiry, a provision would allow them to take away those powers.

Nadler would have “the discretion” to deny the president and his counsel the ability to call or question witnesses or otherwise “impose appropriate remedies” if the administration refuses to make witnesses available for testimony or fails to produce documents to any House investigating committee.

https://www.rollcall.com/news/congress/d...ment-rules

(10-31-2019 11:03 AM)bullet Wrote:  https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/201...-clinton-/

"...The 232-196 vote even saw two Democrats side with the GOP against the effort, marking a stark break with 1998, the last time Congress pursued impeachment. In that instance 31 Democrats sided with all Republicans in a 257-176 vote launching an inquiry into President Clinton’s behavior.

The lack of bipartisan support could taint the inquiry this time around, and hinder any Democratic hopes of ousting President Trump in an eventual Senate trial.

Indeed, Republicans maintained remarkable unity in part because they believe the process Mrs. Pelosi is leading is unfair.

The resolution approved Thursday grants the intelligence committee the lead role, relegating the Judiciary Committee — which usually leads these sorts of proceedings — to a secondary spot...."

"...He said the inquiry officially launched Thursday, after a month of secret proceedings, will eventually allow for open hearings, and does give the minority access to subpoenas, as long as at least some in the Democratic majority agree...."

Ha ha! Who’s the big loser? Fat Nadler

I just saw this guy from the Rep party saying that they would subpoena Shifty. Now, why would they say that? If they were they should have just kept quiet about it until they did. Now, all Shifty needs to do is prepare for all the questions he anticipates getting.

The Rep party is not called the Stupid party for nothing. They play too nice. You don't play nice with Satans children.

(10-31-2019 04:42 PM)olliebaba Wrote:  I just saw this guy from the Rep party saying that they would subpoena Shifty. Now, why would they say that? If they were they should have just kept quiet about it until they did. Now, all Shifty needs to do is prepare for all the questions he anticipates getting.

The Rep party is not called the Stupid party for nothing. They play too nice. You don't play nice with Satans children.

This will force Shifty to waste time defending himself that would have been spent pursuing Trump. That's why they are doing it. They are hoping to destroy his focus.

(10-31-2019 04:42 PM)olliebaba Wrote:  I just saw this guy from the Rep party saying that they would subpoena Shifty. Now, why would they say that? If they were they should have just kept quiet about it until they did. Now, all Shifty needs to do is prepare for all the questions he anticipates getting.

The Rep party is not called the Stupid party for nothing. They play too nice. You don't play nice with Satans children.

The democrats have done something I thought impossible. Unite the GOP. They have awakened a slumbering giant and filled him with a terrible resolve

(10-31-2019 04:42 PM)olliebaba Wrote:  I just saw this guy from the Rep party saying that they would subpoena Shifty. Now, why would they say that? If they were they should have just kept quiet about it until they did. Now, all Shifty needs to do is prepare for all the questions he anticipates getting.

The Rep party is not called the Stupid party for nothing. They play too nice. You don't play nice with Satans children.

you're finally figuring that out, eh?

#henceDJT

it blows my fk'n mind what took yaz so long to get 'woke'....

you don't fk around with a dipshite....you kick their arse and beat 'em into submission....

Stinky, I figured it out a LOOOOOONNNNNGGGG time ago. The ones that haven't are our Republican congress people. They think they are dealing with sanity and fair minded peers but it is further from the truth. Myself, I've wanted the Reps to don their steel toed boots for some serious butt kicking from a long time ago.

(10-31-2019 04:49 PM)olliebaba Wrote:  Stinky, I figured it out a LOOOOOONNNNNGGGG time ago. The ones that haven't are our Republican congress people. They think they are dealing with sanity and fair minded peers but it is further from the truth. Myself, I've wanted the Reps to don their steel toed boots for some serious butt kicking from a long time ago.

I'm not going to regurgitate what we both know....we're getting ready to find out today's version of moxie from the congressional 'phants....

#nowOrNever

(10-31-2019 11:04 AM)UTSAMarineVet09 Wrote:  democrats just lost the election with this circus

It is a gambit from the Dem leadership in Congress. They see the pathetic group of losers that they have running and know Trump is going to trounce any of them. They are hoping they can drag this schit out and somehow find something actually impeachable by the election. They have nothing else to do. Its total desperation.

Ill say this however. Trump is VERY capable of doing something stupid and giving them an impeachable offense. He needs to pump the brakes and listen to advisors before doing anything sketchy going forward. I give him a 60/40 shot of not fcking up.

(10-31-2019 12:10 PM)cb4029 Wrote:  

Im not a Trump lover CB. In fact...I can't stand him as a human being. I have to say though that I think the Dems are taking a huge risk here. This could backfire and hand not only Trump back in the WH but resonate in the Congressional elections.

What if?....Zelensky releases a statement claiming no quip pro quo was involved and comes out defiant? I honestly could see this happening. It would be in his best interest to have Trump his side for the next 4 years.