(09-18-2019 01:28 PM)TripleA Wrote:  

(09-18-2019 11:30 AM)geosnooker2000 Wrote:  

(09-18-2019 11:24 AM)TripleA Wrote:  

(09-18-2019 11:20 AM)geosnooker2000 Wrote:  

(09-17-2019 07:15 PM)TripleA Wrote:  My point was, if UCF (or any other non-P5) makes the playoff, no G5 champ gets the NY6 slot. It reverts to an at large spot. How many other at larges there are in any year is irrelevant.

That's just not true. It is NOT irrelevant.

There are 4 more chances for a team from a non-autonomous conference to get an at-large spot in the NY6 bowls in some years than there would be in other years.

IT IS IRRELEVANT TO MY POINT, which was that if UCF makes the CFP, then there is no NY6 spot to go to another G5 team.

Do you mean this year in particular? I added some stuff that further explains my reasoning in that post above.

Any year. If a G5 makes the 4-team playoff, the G5 NY6 slot goes away for that year. It reverts to an at large slot.

That is the way it was agreed on when the NY6 slot was granted in the beginning.

Yes, and as I said, the at-large spots are open to all 130 FBS teams, not just power 5 teams.

(09-18-2019 05:30 PM)geosnooker2000 Wrote:  

(09-18-2019 01:28 PM)TripleA Wrote:  

(09-18-2019 11:30 AM)geosnooker2000 Wrote:  

(09-18-2019 11:24 AM)TripleA Wrote:  

(09-18-2019 11:20 AM)geosnooker2000 Wrote:  That's just not true. It is NOT irrelevant.

There are 4 more chances for a team from a non-autonomous conference to get an at-large spot in the NY6 bowls in some years than there would be in other years.

IT IS IRRELEVANT TO MY POINT, which was that if UCF makes the CFP, then there is no NY6 spot to go to another G5 team.

Do you mean this year in particular? I added some stuff that further explains my reasoning in that post above.

Any year. If a G5 makes the 4-team playoff, the G5 NY6 slot goes away for that year. It reverts to an at large slot.

That is the way it was agreed on when the NY6 slot was granted in the beginning.

Yes, and as I said, the at-large spots are open to all 130 FBS teams, not just power 5 teams.

And I never said otherwise. It's just that the G5 slot goes away, regardless of how many at larges are in any one season. If another G5 is good enough to get an at large, then they will get it, but it won't be an auto spot that has to be filled by a G5.

The AAC needs the P5 conferences to give each other some loses, and it looks like they will. To me all the P5 conferences look weaker than usual.

If the AAC has some undefeated teams late, we'll get some good TV spots and some publicity just to keep ratings up. There are going to be a lot of meaningless games late this season. We should be good TV to the end.

(09-17-2019 05:29 PM)mtmedlin Wrote:  

(09-17-2019 04:59 PM)NothingButKnight Wrote:  

(09-17-2019 04:01 PM)mtmedlin Wrote:  

(09-17-2019 01:20 PM)TripleA Wrote:  

(09-17-2019 12:15 PM)Memphis Yankee Wrote:  Exactly what I think.

You guys mean the NY6 slot, not the CFPs, right?

Yep, sorry my bad. I meant Access bowl. I just don't see Boise losing any games and there's a good chance that our conference gives each of our top teams 1 loss.

I dont see any team this year that if they win out, they would get into the playoff over a P5 team. Even a P5 team with 1 loss. None of the current top 25 G5 have a strong enough schedule to beat them out.

You don’t see Boise losing when their two FBS opponents have both played them within one score?

It’s not like FSU or Marshall are world beaters. This year, at least.

They have 1 hard game left. USU will give them a run but outside of that, No I dont see them having much of a hard time. Their conference is full of cupcakes.

We play Air Force this Friday night who just knocked off Colorado who knocked off Nebraska. We play at Utah State and at BYU. I would be shocked if we went undefeated.

(09-18-2019 01:07 PM)Once a Knight... Wrote:  

(09-17-2019 03:24 PM)Jugnaut Wrote:  

(09-17-2019 03:18 PM)GoOwls111 Wrote:  I don't see happening like this... But, for discussion sake, if Memphis and UCF both come into the CCG undefeated and UCF (with the love it is starting to receive) wins the CCG it is possible that UCF at 13-0 gets 1 of 4 playoff spots and Memphis gets the NY6 with a 12-1 record.

Don't you have to be a conference champ to go to the NY6?

Not if they were to go as an at-large.

You’re smoking some serious crystal meth if you think that the cartel will ever take a G5 at large over a P5 at large.

(09-18-2019 10:28 PM)thespywhozaggedme Wrote:  

(09-17-2019 05:29 PM)mtmedlin Wrote:  

(09-17-2019 04:01 PM)mtmedlin Wrote:  I just don't see Boise losing any games and there's a good chance that our conference gives each of our top teams 1 loss.

They have 1 hard game left. USU will give them a run but outside of that, No I dont see them having much of a hard time. Their conference is full of cupcakes.

We play at Utah State and at BYU. I would be shocked if we went undefeated.

I have Boise to beat Air Force but I think they’ll lose @BYU and @USU to finish 10-2. I think USU loses @Fresno and finishes 9-3. USU in the MWC CCG, winning the head-to-head tie-breaker over Boise with 7-1 conference records.

We shall see!

(09-19-2019 05:30 AM)Native Georgian Wrote:  

(09-18-2019 10:28 PM)thespywhozaggedme Wrote:  

(09-17-2019 05:29 PM)mtmedlin Wrote:  

(09-17-2019 04:01 PM)mtmedlin Wrote:  I just don't see Boise losing any games and there's a good chance that our conference gives each of our top teams 1 loss.

They have 1 hard game left. USU will give them a run but outside of that, No I dont see them having much of a hard time. Their conference is full of cupcakes.

We play at Utah State and at BYU. I would be shocked if we went undefeated.

I have Boise to beat Air Force but I think they’ll lose @BYU and @USU to finish 10-2. I think USU loses @Fresno and finishes 9-3. USU in the MWC CCG, winning the head-to-head tie-breaker over Boise with 7-1 conference records.

We shall see!

Our game tomorrow night against AFA scares the crap out of me.And I never get worried about any game.

(09-18-2019 10:28 PM)thespywhozaggedme Wrote:  

(09-17-2019 05:29 PM)mtmedlin Wrote:  

(09-17-2019 04:59 PM)NothingButKnight Wrote:  

(09-17-2019 04:01 PM)mtmedlin Wrote:  

(09-17-2019 01:20 PM)TripleA Wrote:  You guys mean the NY6 slot, not the CFPs, right?

Yep, sorry my bad. I meant Access bowl. I just don't see Boise losing any games and there's a good chance that our conference gives each of our top teams 1 loss.

I dont see any team this year that if they win out, they would get into the playoff over a P5 team. Even a P5 team with 1 loss. None of the current top 25 G5 have a strong enough schedule to beat them out.

You don’t see Boise losing when their two FBS opponents have both played them within one score?

It’s not like FSU or Marshall are world beaters. This year, at least.

They have 1 hard game left. USU will give them a run but outside of that, No I dont see them having much of a hard time. Their conference is full of cupcakes.

We play Air Force this Friday night who just knocked off Colorado who knocked off Nebraska. We play at Utah State and at BYU. I would be shocked if we went undefeated.

Agree, Boise will be around 9-3 this year. A good year for them.

(09-19-2019 08:02 AM)8BitPirate Wrote:  

(09-18-2019 10:28 PM)thespywhozaggedme Wrote:  

(09-17-2019 05:29 PM)mtmedlin Wrote:  

(09-17-2019 04:59 PM)NothingButKnight Wrote:  

(09-17-2019 04:01 PM)mtmedlin Wrote:  Yep, sorry my bad. I meant Access bowl. I just don't see Boise losing any games and there's a good chance that our conference gives each of our top teams 1 loss.

I dont see any team this year that if they win out, they would get into the playoff over a P5 team. Even a P5 team with 1 loss. None of the current top 25 G5 have a strong enough schedule to beat them out.

You don’t see Boise losing when their two FBS opponents have both played them within one score?

It’s not like FSU or Marshall are world beaters. This year, at least.

They have 1 hard game left. USU will give them a run but outside of that, No I dont see them having much of a hard time. Their conference is full of cupcakes.

We play Air Force this Friday night who just knocked off Colorado who knocked off Nebraska. We play at Utah State and at BYU. I would be shocked if we went undefeated.

Agree, Boise will be around 9-3 this year. An average year for them. An historic year for ECU

Fixed for accuracy

The 6 NY6 Bowls:

Conference tie-ins:
Orange Bowl: 2019 matchup is ACC vs. Big Ten or SEC (December 30, 2019) (highest rated non-champion/non-CFP)
Rose Bowl: 2019 season matchup is Big Ten vs. Pac-12 (January 1, 2020)
Sugar Bowl: 2019 season matchup is Big 12 vs. SEC (January 1, 2020)

The Cotton: At-large/Group of Five, CFP (2015–present) - 2019 matchup is TBD vs. TBD (December 28, 2019)
Peach Bowl: At-large/Group of Five, CFP (2014–present) - 2019 matchup is CFP Semifinal (December 28, 2019)
Fiesta Bowl: At-large/Group of Five, CFP (December 2014–present) - 2019 season matchup CFP Semifinal (December 28, 2019)

College Football Playoff
Number of playoff games: 3 (championship game, 2 semifinal games)

Semifinals:
2014–15 and 2017–18 (Rose Bowl and Sugar Bowl)
2015–16 and 2018–19 (Orange Bowl and Cotton Bowl)
2016–17 and 2019–20 (Fiesta Bowl and Peach Bowl)

(09-18-2019 08:09 PM)TripleA Wrote:  

(09-18-2019 05:30 PM)geosnooker2000 Wrote:  

(09-18-2019 01:28 PM)TripleA Wrote:  

(09-18-2019 11:30 AM)geosnooker2000 Wrote:  

(09-18-2019 11:24 AM)TripleA Wrote:  IT IS IRRELEVANT TO MY POINT, which was that if UCF makes the CFP, then there is no NY6 spot to go to another G5 team.

Do you mean this year in particular? I added some stuff that further explains my reasoning in that post above.

Any year. If a G5 makes the 4-team playoff, the G5 NY6 slot goes away for that year. It reverts to an at large slot.

That is the way it was agreed on when the NY6 slot was granted in the beginning.

Yes, and as I said, the at-large spots are open to all 130 FBS teams, not just power 5 teams.

And I never said otherwise. It's just that the G5 slot goes away, regardless of how many at larges are in any one season. If another G5 is good enough to get an at large, then they will get it, but it won't be an auto spot that has to be filled by a G5.

Please re-read, and re-consider how others would read that sentence and take it to mean that .... well... just what you said. "NO NY6 spot"

There are 3 at-large slots in the NY6 one of which is a Guarantied access to the highest ranked G5 team.

2014–15 and 2017–18 (Rose Bowl and Sugar Bowl) - In these years one of the at-large goes to the G5 and 2 ere open for assignment.

2015–16 and 2018–19 (Orange Bowl and Cotton Bowl) - In these years one of the at-large goes to the G5 and 1 are open for assignment.

2016–17 and 2019–20 (Fiesta Bowl and Peach Bowl) - In these years one of the at-large goes to the G5 and 0 are open for assignment.

If a G5 team is ranged n the top 4 (CFP Playoff) then any of the 130 FBS D1 teams are eligible for that G5 auto bid, if selected and bowl eligible.

It is quite amazing, but there is a high likelihood that an unranked ACC team is gonna be in the Orange bowl.

(09-19-2019 12:05 PM)otown Wrote:  It is quite amazing, but there is a high likelihood that an unranked ACC team is gonna be in the Orange bowl.

One way or another they will be ranked for that game, even if they have to climb 50 spots to be ranked.

(09-19-2019 12:00 PM)GoOwls111 Wrote:  There are 3 at-large slots in the NY6 one of which is a Guarantied access to the highest ranked G5 team.

2014–15 and 2017–18 (Rose Bowl and Sugar Bowl) - In these years one of the at-large goes to the G5 and 2 ere open for assignment.

2015–16 and 2018–19 (Orange Bowl and Cotton Bowl) - In these years one of the at-large goes to the G5 and 1 are open for assignment.

2016–17 and 2019–20 (Fiesta Bowl and Peach Bowl) - In these years one of the at-large goes to the G5 and 0 are open for assignment.

If a G5 team is ranged n the top 4 (CFP Playoff) then any of the 130 FBS D1 teams are eligible for that G5 auto bid, if selected and bowl eligible.

Must be conference champ, but odds are conference champ will be highest ranked.

(09-19-2019 12:52 PM)thespywhozaggedme Wrote:  

(09-19-2019 12:00 PM)GoOwls111 Wrote:  There are 3 at-large slots in the NY6 one of which is a Guarantied access to the highest ranked G5 team.

2014–15 and 2017–18 (Rose Bowl and Sugar Bowl) - In these years one of the at-large goes to the G5 and 2 ere open for assignment.

2015–16 and 2018–19 (Orange Bowl and Cotton Bowl) - In these years one of the at-large goes to the G5 and 1 are open for assignment.

2016–17 and 2019–20 (Fiesta Bowl and Peach Bowl) - In these years one of the at-large goes to the G5 and 0 are open for assignment.

If a G5 team is ranged n the top 4 (CFP Playoff) then any of the 130 FBS D1 teams are eligible for that G5 auto bid, if selected and bowl eligible.

Must be conference champ, but odds are conference champ will be highest ranked.

Again, not true. The "auto-bid" reverts to an at-large selection. The only qualification for an at-large position is to be ranked in the top 12. Champion or not.

(09-19-2019 12:52 PM)thespywhozaggedme Wrote:  

(09-19-2019 12:00 PM)GoOwls111 Wrote:  There are 3 at-large slots in the NY6 one of which is a Guarantied access to the highest ranked G5 team.

2014–15 and 2017–18 (Rose Bowl and Sugar Bowl) - In these years one of the at-large goes to the G5 and 2 ere open for assignment.

2015–16 and 2018–19 (Orange Bowl and Cotton Bowl) - In these years one of the at-large goes to the G5 and 1 are open for assignment.

2016–17 and 2019–20 (Fiesta Bowl and Peach Bowl) - In these years one of the at-large goes to the G5 and 0 are open for assignment.

If a G5 team is ranged n the top 4 (CFP Playoff) then any of the 130 FBS D1 teams are eligible for that G5 auto bid, if selected and bowl eligible.

Must be conference champ, but odds are conference champ will be highest ranked.

Well not necessarily, if a G5 team is ranked in the top 4 and is in the CFP payoff the at-large bids go to teams ranked in the to 12 and chances are that none of them will be conference champions other than maybe another G5 team or they can all be conference champs... But it is not a requirement.

For example, 2016 Penn State won the Big 10 but Ohio State was i of 4 to play for the CFP Championship. IF the big 10 didn't have the tie-in with the rose bowl Penn State would have been an at-large.

(09-19-2019 12:55 PM)geosnooker2000 Wrote:  

(09-19-2019 12:52 PM)thespywhozaggedme Wrote:  

(09-19-2019 12:00 PM)GoOwls111 Wrote:  There are 3 at-large slots in the NY6 one of which is a Guarantied access to the highest ranked G5 team.

2014–15 and 2017–18 (Rose Bowl and Sugar Bowl) - In these years one of the at-large goes to the G5 and 2 ere open for assignment.

2015–16 and 2018–19 (Orange Bowl and Cotton Bowl) - In these years one of the at-large goes to the G5 and 1 are open for assignment.

2016–17 and 2019–20 (Fiesta Bowl and Peach Bowl) - In these years one of the at-large goes to the G5 and 0 are open for assignment.

If a G5 team is ranged n the top 4 (CFP Playoff) then any of the 130 FBS D1 teams are eligible for that G5 auto bid, if selected and bowl eligible.

Must be conference champ, but odds are conference champ will be highest ranked.

Again, not true. The "auto-bid" reverts to an at-large selection. The only qualification for an at-large position is to be ranked in the top 12. Champion or not.

You are using “auto bid” and “at large” interchangeably. They are not. The highest ranked G5 champion gets the auto bid NY6 game. If a G5 team were to ever make the playoffs, another G5 team would in no way shape or form ever get an auto bed. That is pure fantasy.

(09-19-2019 05:28 PM)GoOwls111 Wrote:  

(09-19-2019 12:52 PM)thespywhozaggedme Wrote:  

(09-19-2019 12:00 PM)GoOwls111 Wrote:  There are 3 at-large slots in the NY6 one of which is a Guarantied access to the highest ranked G5 team.

2014–15 and 2017–18 (Rose Bowl and Sugar Bowl) - In these years one of the at-large goes to the G5 and 2 ere open for assignment.

2015–16 and 2018–19 (Orange Bowl and Cotton Bowl) - In these years one of the at-large goes to the G5 and 1 are open for assignment.

2016–17 and 2019–20 (Fiesta Bowl and Peach Bowl) - In these years one of the at-large goes to the G5 and 0 are open for assignment.

If a G5 team is ranged n the top 4 (CFP Playoff) then any of the 130 FBS D1 teams are eligible for that G5 auto bid, if selected and bowl eligible.

Must be conference champ, but odds are conference champ will be highest ranked.

Well not necessarily, if a G5 team is ranked in the top 4 and is in the CFP payoff the at-large bids go to teams ranked in the to 12 and chances are that none of them will be conference champions other than maybe another G5 team or they can all be conference champs... But it is not a requirement.

For example, 2016 Penn State won the Big 10 but Ohio State was i of 4 to play for the CFP Championship. IF the big 10 didn't have the tie-in with the rose bowl Penn State would have been an at-large.

A G5 will never get an “at large” bid. That is pure fantasy.

(09-19-2019 06:44 PM)thespywhozaggedme Wrote:  

(09-19-2019 05:28 PM)GoOwls111 Wrote:  

(09-19-2019 12:52 PM)thespywhozaggedme Wrote:  

(09-19-2019 12:00 PM)GoOwls111 Wrote:  There are 3 at-large slots in the NY6 one of which is a Guarantied access to the highest ranked G5 team.

2014–15 and 2017–18 (Rose Bowl and Sugar Bowl) - In these years one of the at-large goes to the G5 and 2 ere open for assignment.

2015–16 and 2018–19 (Orange Bowl and Cotton Bowl) - In these years one of the at-large goes to the G5 and 1 are open for assignment.

2016–17 and 2019–20 (Fiesta Bowl and Peach Bowl) - In these years one of the at-large goes to the G5 and 0 are open for assignment.

If a G5 team is ranged n the top 4 (CFP Playoff) then any of the 130 FBS D1 teams are eligible for that G5 auto bid, if selected and bowl eligible.

Must be conference champ, but odds are conference champ will be highest ranked.

Well not necessarily, if a G5 team is ranked in the top 4 and is in the CFP payoff the at-large bids go to teams ranked in the to 12 and chances are that none of them will be conference champions other than maybe another G5 team or they can all be conference champs... But it is not a requirement.

For example, 2016 Penn State won the Big 10 but Ohio State was i of 4 to play for the CFP Championship. IF the big 10 didn't have the tie-in with the rose bowl Penn State would have been an at-large.

A G5 will never get an “at large” bid. That is pure fantasy.

We sold out our Peach Bowl allotment in record time yet weren't even considered for a return trip to Atlanta the following year. You are spot on.