(03-20-2019 09:01 AM)ESE84 Wrote:  

(03-20-2019 08:53 AM)mturn017 Wrote:  

(03-20-2019 08:40 AM)cmett003 Wrote:  

(03-19-2019 09:55 PM)ESE84 Wrote:  The key statement is no one made a competing bid. Get the frustrated five together to support a second bid in an eastern time zone city.

Is NT making the Frisco bid? I just heard they extended the C-USA tournament for a few years in Frisco and I didn't hear anything about a schools bid.

Frisco itself is, I believe.

It is not a good situation when we only get one bid. We should all be asking our ADs for an explanation.

Well, that's easy. None of our teams were good enough to garner an at large bid to the NIT let alone the NCAA. In years past we'ved had teams good enough but with lacking resumes. I think the future looks pretty bright for CUSA basketball overall, relatively speaking but the margin for error is small for us to get an at large.

(03-20-2019 09:13 AM)mturn017 Wrote:  

(03-20-2019 09:01 AM)ESE84 Wrote:  

(03-20-2019 08:53 AM)mturn017 Wrote:  

(03-20-2019 08:40 AM)cmett003 Wrote:  

(03-19-2019 09:55 PM)ESE84 Wrote:  The key statement is no one made a competing bid. Get the frustrated five together to support a second bid in an eastern time zone city.

Is NT making the Frisco bid? I just heard they extended the C-USA tournament for a few years in Frisco and I didn't hear anything about a schools bid.

Frisco itself is, I believe.

It is not a good situation when we only get one bid. We should all be asking our ADs for an explanation.

Well, that's easy. None of our teams were good enough to garner an at large bid to the NIT let alone the NCAA. In years past we'ved had teams good enough but with lacking resumes. I think the future looks pretty bright for CUSA basketball overall, relatively speaking but the margin for error is small for us to get an at large.

I think he means one bid as in one city bidding on the tournament.

(03-20-2019 09:26 AM)MUsince96 Wrote:  

(03-20-2019 09:13 AM)mturn017 Wrote:  

(03-20-2019 09:01 AM)ESE84 Wrote:  

(03-20-2019 08:53 AM)mturn017 Wrote:  

(03-20-2019 08:40 AM)cmett003 Wrote:  Is NT making the Frisco bid? I just heard they extended the C-USA tournament for a few years in Frisco and I didn't hear anything about a schools bid.

Frisco itself is, I believe.

It is not a good situation when we only get one bid. We should all be asking our ADs for an explanation.

Well, that's easy. None of our teams were good enough to garner an at large bid to the NIT let alone the NCAA. In years past we'ved had teams good enough but with lacking resumes. I think the future looks pretty bright for CUSA basketball overall, relatively speaking but the margin for error is small for us to get an at large.

I think he means one bid as in one city bidding on the tournament.

That's because there is no value. I don't think Frisco bid either. I think Judy picked it and came up with a rental agreement with the facility. The facility does not belong to Frisco.

(03-20-2019 09:26 AM)MUsince96 Wrote:  

(03-20-2019 09:13 AM)mturn017 Wrote:  

(03-20-2019 09:01 AM)ESE84 Wrote:  

(03-20-2019 08:53 AM)mturn017 Wrote:  

(03-20-2019 08:40 AM)cmett003 Wrote:  Is NT making the Frisco bid? I just heard they extended the C-USA tournament for a few years in Frisco and I didn't hear anything about a schools bid.

Frisco itself is, I believe.

It is not a good situation when we only get one bid. We should all be asking our ADs for an explanation.

Well, that's easy. None of our teams were good enough to garner an at large bid to the NIT let alone the NCAA. In years past we'ved had teams good enough but with lacking resumes. I think the future looks pretty bright for CUSA basketball overall, relatively speaking but the margin for error is small for us to get an at large.

I think he means one bid as in one city bidding on the tournament.

Doh. Yeah, thought the question was out of context. My bad and good point ESE84.

(03-20-2019 09:31 AM)EverRespect Wrote:  

(03-20-2019 09:26 AM)MUsince96 Wrote:  

(03-20-2019 09:13 AM)mturn017 Wrote:  

(03-20-2019 09:01 AM)ESE84 Wrote:  

(03-20-2019 08:53 AM)mturn017 Wrote:  Frisco itself is, I believe.

It is not a good situation when we only get one bid. We should all be asking our ADs for an explanation.

Well, that's easy. None of our teams were good enough to garner an at large bid to the NIT let alone the NCAA. In years past we'ved had teams good enough but with lacking resumes. I think the future looks pretty bright for CUSA basketball overall, relatively speaking but the margin for error is small for us to get an at large.

I think he means one bid as in one city bidding on the tournament.

That's because there is no value. I don't think Frisco bid either. I think Judy picked it and came up with a rental agreement with the facility. The facility does not belong to Frisco.

I think Frisco did bid. They seem to be marketing themselves to this kind of event. They've hosted the FCS Championship for several years as well.

Let's talk reality for a moment. Sure, home games would generate a lot of fan interest, for that home team. No one else would care. And honestly, playing at home in conference tournaments feels amateur. There's something to be said for all teams coming together at one place for a tournament. Fans interacting, talking trash, and having a great time together.


The problem comes with the fact that our fans don't care enough to travel that far. And to take it a step further, the fans that do care enough want to see good basketball being played, something foreign for our conference (for the most part). I can tell you now that if Southern Miss was 29-4, we'd have had a great crowd in Frisco. But when you're looking at an average team with no hopes of NCAA tournament outside of winning the championship, not many want to spend the money and take the time off.

We need teams that are more competitive. If you want to see Frisco be a fantastic tournament site, have Southern Miss, La Tech, UNT, and UAB all have great teams one year that we all know are going to the tournament because of their overall performances. All of those schools would bring a good bit of fans to Frisco.

(03-20-2019 10:58 AM)EagNBran Wrote:  Let's talk reality for a moment. Sure, home games would generate a lot of fan interest, for that home team. No one else would care. And honestly, playing at home in conference tournaments feels amateur. There's something to be said for all teams coming together at one place for a tournament. Fans interacting, talking trash, and having a great time together.


The problem comes with the fact that our fans don't care enough to travel that far. And to take it a step further, the fans that do care enough want to see good basketball being played, something foreign for our conference (for the most part). I can tell you now that if Southern Miss was 29-4, we'd have had a great crowd in Frisco. But when you're looking at an average team with no hopes of NCAA tournament outside of winning the championship, not many want to spend the money and take the time off.

We need teams that are more competitive. If you want to see Frisco be a fantastic tournament site, have Southern Miss, La Tech, UNT, and UAB all have great teams one year that we all know are going to the tournament because of their overall performances. All of those schools would bring a good bit of fans to Frisco.

We're playing in a football practice facility with two courts and a curtain between them. There's is little we could do that would make us look more amateurish. And you're right. The western teams need to be better if Frisco is to be successful. Hey, they say next year it should be profitable!!!

(03-20-2019 11:52 AM)mturn017 Wrote:  

(03-20-2019 10:58 AM)EagNBran Wrote:  Let's talk reality for a moment. Sure, home games would generate a lot of fan interest, for that home team. No one else would care. And honestly, playing at home in conference tournaments feels amateur. There's something to be said for all teams coming together at one place for a tournament. Fans interacting, talking trash, and having a great time together.


The problem comes with the fact that our fans don't care enough to travel that far. And to take it a step further, the fans that do care enough want to see good basketball being played, something foreign for our conference (for the most part). I can tell you now that if Southern Miss was 29-4, we'd have had a great crowd in Frisco. But when you're looking at an average team with no hopes of NCAA tournament outside of winning the championship, not many want to spend the money and take the time off.

We need teams that are more competitive. If you want to see Frisco be a fantastic tournament site, have Southern Miss, La Tech, UNT, and UAB all have great teams one year that we all know are going to the tournament because of their overall performances. All of those schools would bring a good bit of fans to Frisco.

We're playing in a football practice facility with two courts and a curtain between them. There's is little we could do that would make us look more amateurish. And you're right. The western teams need to be better if Frisco is to be successful. Hey, they say next year it should be profitable!!!

That and the attendance. Cameras tried their best not to show views of the empty pop up bleachers. That, my friend, is "amateurish"

So on my good list are:

ODU

Marshall

WKU

MT

Charlotte

Let's add:

Liberty (time to get off the high horse)

JMU (same)

Doubt the above would say no. That's 7 schools. Just need either 1 or 3 more. That's when you go for others such as:

GA So & GA St (assuming they have to stay together)

And/or Coastal Carolina

I've been the last two years and everything about the event inside The Star is subpar while everything about the immediate surroundings of The Star (restaurants/bars, fan fest, hotel proximity) are all great. If Frisco is the only city putting up money to host the event, the conference needs to take the cash. But that doesn't mean that the actual event inside The Star isn't embarrassingly amateurish.

I Don't know about ya'll but since i am planning to move to McKinney this thing might be sweet for me after all but the trade off is the pain getting to Norfolk for BB and FB games.

I wouldn't mind going to see ODU in Frisco....

...one of these days....


...when I'm retired.


I would have loved to have been there this year, but I can't help but consider the possibility that I would use PTO time from work, spend a ton of money on transportation, room and board, and tickets...

... and have ODU lose in the first round. Not ready to run that risk yet.

(03-20-2019 12:02 PM)odu09 Wrote:  So on my good list are:

ODU

Marshall

WKU

MT

Charlotte

Let's add:

Liberty (time to get off the high horse)

JMU (same)

Doubt the above would say no. That's 7 schools. Just need either 1 or 3 more. That's when you go for others such as:

GA So & GA St (assuming they have to stay together)

And/or Coastal Carolina

I am all for it if we can get UAB/Delaware instead of that piece of crap called Luhbutty.

clt has asked our AD to place “F5” stickers on our helmets.


Will let you know the feedback.

Just do the games on campus and be done with it. Not like what Frisco is bidding is making our schools meaningful cash anyway.

(03-20-2019 05:11 PM)Niner National Wrote:  Just do the games on campus and be done with it. Not like what Frisco is bidding is making our schools meaningful cash anyway.

Yeah, from what I saw, there was a lot of FAN (sic) in the stands.

(03-20-2019 09:35 AM)mturn017 Wrote:  

(03-20-2019 09:26 AM)MUsince96 Wrote:  I think he means one bid as in one city bidding on the tournament.

Doh. Yeah, thought the question was out of context. My bad and good point ESE84.

No problem. I did mean only one city bidding. Is the Frisco bid that good, so that no one can compete? Or is the conference office lazy in its approach to this tournament?

I'd like to see the conference office enforce some scheduling rules aimed at improving our NET ratings. That would start with no Division II, Division III, or NAIA opponents.

(03-20-2019 08:04 PM)ESE84 Wrote:  

(03-20-2019 09:35 AM)mturn017 Wrote:  

(03-20-2019 09:26 AM)MUsince96 Wrote:  I think he means one bid as in one city bidding on the tournament.

Doh. Yeah, thought the question was out of context. My bad and good point ESE84.

No problem. I did mean only one city bidding. Is the Frisco bid that good, so that no one can compete? Or is the conference office lazy in its approach to this tournament?

I'd like to see the conference office enforce some scheduling rules aimed at improving our NET ratings. That would start with no Division II, Division III, or NAIA opponents.

One preseason tune up is fine. But a string of them hurt.

But honestly, having multiple negative profile teams at the bottom of the league every year isn’t helping.

This will never happen, but we either need to be a tight, ten team league, or a classic 12 team conference.

Facts are that the Frustrated Five definitely have enough clout to leave and form a new conference.

Marshall
ODU
WKU
MTSU
Charlotte

That is a very good core to form a new conference. I think FIU and FAU would definitely come with us. If so that would put us at 7. The next best two options would be So Miss/UAB to get to 9 teams. AT MOST we would only want to go to a total of 10 football teams. Even if those 4 chose not to come, I would still like the see the Frustated Five leave and form a new conference. I don't care who the other teams are as long as they are in the Eastern time zone and relatively close to other conference mates.

Potential new candidates that would actually consider coming with in no particular order.....

JMU
Liberty
Delaware
UMASS
App State
Ga Southern
Ga State


Coastal isn't ready but at this point I would take them as well.

As far as bids are concerned, is CUSA even encouraging/soliciting bids from other cities? Sort of surprised B'ham wouldn't want it back.