Coach Richardson has been fired and I have a good idea who the next coach will be. It will not matter if those refs continue to call UMKC tournament games.

Number 1 goal is to make sure those officials never call a UMKC game again especially tournament games. The only way is to leave the WAC.

Too much $ and time invested by the players and university.

Number 1 priority off season should be find a new conference. WAC has a big UMKC bias problem.

UMKC would have been 32-0 if not for the refs his year. Darn refs...

(as referred to by RoosHouse)

41 Action News

Sources tell our @mickshaffer that UMKC will fire men's basketball coach Kareem Richardson. It will become official on Monday.

8:05 PM - 14 Mar 2019

https://twitter.com/41actionnews/status/...6371238913

(03-14-2019 10:31 PM)PojoaquePosse Wrote:  UMKC would have been 32-0 if not for the refs his year. Darn refs...

I think the roos are better than their record and can beat every team besides NMSU. NMSU is really good at rebounding and UMKC is not. This applies to pretty much every year under Coach Rich.

Its fair that you don't agree, but as a UMKC fan I am tired of WAC refs and think it necessitates a move at this point.

I also think the main reason the WAC never has a sleeper team is bc of the refs. In the Mid Con, Valpo made a run one year in NCAA and its because the calls could not go their way and they would still win.

I will wait to see reaction when GCU is not called for a foul for 14 minutes against NMSU

(03-14-2019 10:40 PM)RoosHouse Wrote:  

(03-14-2019 10:31 PM)PojoaquePosse Wrote:  UMKC would have been 32-0 if not for the refs his year. Darn refs...

I think the roos are better than their record and can beat every team besides NMSU. NMSU is really good at rebounding and UMKC is not. This applies to pretty much every year under Coach Rich.

Its fair that you don't agree, but as a UMKC fan I am tired of WAC refs and think it necessitates a move at this point.

I also think the main reason the WAC never has a sleeper team is bc of the refs. In the Mid Con, Valpo made a run one year in NCAA and its because the calls could not go their way and they would still win.

I agree that the Roos are better than their record. I agree they can beat every WAC team (including NMSU). I don’t agree that the refs have cost you one single game this year. If your guard made his 2 free throws at bako, Joiner’s three free throws wouldn’t have mattered (and he was fouled). You guys settled for threes and long shots after going up 9 tonight and UVU drove to the basket. That’s what cost you the game.

I promise you the refs could care less of the Roos or the Wolverines won. There’s no WAC conspiracy against the Roos. SMH...

I am glad for the increase in student attendance for NMSU this year. I have not seen any attendance promotions for the WAC for NMSU students. I think the only school that does that is GCU. I would love for other schools to send a certain amount of students to go to tournament games. If that does not happen I think it would be good if we leave the Orleans Arena and go to schools home court on a rotational schedule.

(03-14-2019 11:00 PM)NeptunianEmp Wrote:  I am glad for the increase in student attendance for NMSU this year. I have not seen any attendance promotions for the WAC for NMSU students. I think the only school that does that is GCU. I would love for other schools to send a certain amount of students to go to tournament games. If that does not happen I think it would be good if we leave the Orleans Arena and go to schools home court on a rotational schedule.

Yes. Someone here suggested holding the tournament at the school that won the previous year's regular season, seems like a good system.

Our students can afford to do a road trip to a tournament but not plane tickets. I'm guessing CSUB and UMKC students are similar.

(03-14-2019 10:53 PM)PojoaquePosse Wrote:  

(03-14-2019 10:40 PM)RoosHouse Wrote:  

(03-14-2019 10:31 PM)PojoaquePosse Wrote:  UMKC would have been 32-0 if not for the refs his year. Darn refs...

I think the roos are better than their record and can beat every team besides NMSU. NMSU is really good at rebounding and UMKC is not. This applies to pretty much every year under Coach Rich.

Its fair that you don't agree, but as a UMKC fan I am tired of WAC refs and think it necessitates a move at this point.

I also think the main reason the WAC never has a sleeper team is bc of the refs. In the Mid Con, Valpo made a run one year in NCAA and its because the calls could not go their way and they would still win.

I agree that the Roos are better than their record. I agree they can beat every WAC team (including NMSU). I don’t agree that the refs have cost you one single game this year. If your guard made his 2 free throws at bako, Joiner’s three free throws wouldn’t have mattered (and he was fouled). You guys settled for threes and long shots after going up 9 tonight and UVU drove to the basket. That’s what cost you the game.

I promise you the refs could care less of the Roos or the Wolverines won. There’s no WAC conspiracy against the Roos. SMH...

I never said conspiracy I said bias.

People can believe what they want it doesn't really matter enjoy the WAC. Enjoy the game.

The WAC is no longer enjoyable as a UMKC fan.

(03-14-2019 10:31 PM)PojoaquePosse Wrote:  UMKC would have been 32-0 if not for the refs his year. Darn refs...

Out of conference games and non west coast games especially are called very fair. Its when we go to the Pacific Time Zone.

Its every year. They have the same WAC officials for the tournament and they make bad calls against UMKC in the last 10 minutes.

UMKC is not welcomed in the WAC

(03-14-2019 11:39 PM)RoosHouse Wrote:  Its every year. They have the same WAC officials for the tournament and they make bad calls against UMKC in the last 10 minutes.

UMKC is not welcomed in the WAC

There have been some bad calls throughout the seasons/years, but blaming it all on the refs is complete bullsh*t.

Your team did not win. The refs are not to blame for everything. I personally wanted UMKC to beat UVU. The refs did not decide that game, the players did. The players/coaches always decide a game, not the refs. The refs may influence the game, but a good team can always overcome that.

I don't think its acceptable to have bad calls in tournament play. You do and that's ok. I personally think you should be able to challenge any call in college basketball as long as you have a time out. I also think foul out should be expanded to 6.

I think its disrespectful to have the same referees from last years GCU game ref UMKC games. You do and that's ok.

People can enjoy college basketball in different ways.

At this point, the WAC is not where UMKC belongs. There's is no way to describe other than the WAC does not welcome UMKC.

(03-14-2019 11:57 PM)RoosHouse Wrote:  I don't think its acceptable to have bad calls in tournament play. You do and that's ok. I personally think you should be able to challenge any call in college basketball as long as you have a time out. I also think foul out should be expanded to 6.

I think its disrespectful to have the same referees from last years GCU game ref UMKC games. You do and that's ok.

People can enjoy college basketball in different ways.

At this point, the WAC is not where UMKC belongs. There's is no way to describe other than the WAC does not welcome UMKC.

I agree with the foul challenge and slightly for the 6 fouls per game. I think 6 fouls being the limit should be implemented for overtime games.

I can say a lot of the same thing for Aggie Football. I think you are too hung up on the refs. Yes the refs may have cost you a game or two (at most) but they are not to blame for your entire season(s). I don't think things will change much if you transfer to another conference.

(03-14-2019 11:57 PM)RoosHouse Wrote:  I don't think its acceptable to have bad calls in tournament play. You do and that's ok. I personally think you should be able to challenge any call in college basketball as long as you have a time out. I also think foul out should be expanded to 6.

I think its disrespectful to have the same referees from last years GCU game ref UMKC games. You do and that's ok.

People can enjoy college basketball in different ways.

At this point, the WAC is not where UMKC belongs. There's is no way to describe other than the WAC does not welcome UMKC.

The refs were not the same. Only one of them was a referee for the game last year against GCU (D.G. Nelson). The other two were different. It is fine to be emotionally involved with your team, but please try not to state something as a fact when it is not.

2019 UMKC WAC tournament Game: Ronnie Hernandez,Rick O'Neill,Rick Batsell

2018 UMKC WAC Tournament Game:Ronnie Hernandez, D.G. Nelson, Rick Batsell

2 out of the 3. It should have been 0 out of 3. Shows how poorly run and out of touch WAC is.

Completely disrespectful by the WAC. They didn't call a foul on Utah Valley for the final 14 minutes. UMKC made more baskets than UVU. WAC made it a free throw contest

WAC has not had an upset in the first round since 2016 when UMKC won as #5 seed. Thats odd

(03-15-2019 01:14 AM)RoosHouse Wrote:  2019 UMKC WAC tournament Game: Ronnie Hernandez,Rick O'Neill,Rick Batsell

2018 UMKC WAC Tournament Game:Ronnie Hernandez, D.G. Nelson, Rick Batsell

2 out of the 3. It should have been 0 out of 3. Shows how poorly run and out of touch WAC is.

Completely disrespectful by the WAC. They didn't call a foul on Utah Valley for the final 14 minutes. UMKC made more baskets than UVU. WAC made it a free throw contest

WAC has not had an upset in the first round since 2016 when UMKC won as #5 seed. Thats odd

You're right. My apologies. I actually looked at today's GCU-Seattle game instead of the UMKC-UVU game. Sorry about that. While I do not think the refs cost you the game (although that flagrant foul call that turned into a 4 point play was questionable), it would be nice to have different refs. I'll give you that.

Your right the flagrant foul only shifted the win probability from 58% UMKC win to 82% UVU win. Refs don't impact games.

That flagrant was a huge call but before that UMKC missed 3 or 4 straight bunnies make those and we are talking about how UMKC knocked off the #2 seed with the WAC POY...

Refs and such aside, the loss cost Kareem Richardson his job. Didn't see the end that I keep hearing about, but is it fair to speculate how some of these disputed calls might have been the final nail in the coffin to his job?

Either way, overdue move for UMKC. He was reminding me of Dollar at SU, plateau at mediocrity and CBI/CIT bids.