I thought if the Tub had stayed, this is where we would be right now. Most likely an NIT invite, but a very outside chance of making the NCAA. The difference is... that is where the Tub would have peaked. He would be losing all of his seniors this year, he had nothing for a recruiting class and most likely would restock with jucos to start the cycle over again.

(03-05-2019 10:32 PM)memtigbb Wrote:  I thought if the Tub had stayed, this is where we would be right now. Most likely an NIT invite, but a very outside chance of making the NCAA. The difference is... that is where the Tub would have peaked. He would be losing all of his seniors this year, he had nothing for a recruiting class and most likely would restock with jucos to start the cycle over again.

Tubby would have likely lost more players to transfer (eg. Davenport) and not replaced them with anyone close to the quality of Penny’s recruits. The most probable outcome this season would have been a losing record played in front of 3K diehards.

One thing not mentioned in regards to our predicted finish..... The conference as a whole is tougher than anyone predicted it to be.
Houston is immensely better than expected
Cincy is slightly better than expected
UCF is about what they were expected to be
Temple is better than expected
USF is far better than expected

(03-05-2019 11:38 PM)Alcalde2 Wrote:  One thing not mentioned in regards to our predicted finish..... The conference as a whole is tougher than anyone predicted it to be.
Houston is immensely better than expected
Cincy is slightly better than expected
UCF is about what they were expected to be
Temple is better than expected
USF is far better than expected

I will give you Houston...

But Cinci's best win OOC was Ole Miss
Temple's best win OOC was ?
USF's best win OOC was ?
UCF's best win OOC was Alabama

In conference your statement is correct but in college basketball as a whole are they really better than expected?

(03-05-2019 08:24 PM)Alcalde2 Wrote:  Everyone seems to say this but... If Tubby had signed the very same recruits, it would've been his best recruiting class since he left Kentucky. Lomax, Harris or Jones individually might have saved Tubbys job. Penny gets all of them

Lomax was never going to save Tubby's job. In fact, he signed with Wichita State, so he would have helped destroy it.

(03-06-2019 11:17 AM)MSU87 Wrote:  

(03-05-2019 08:24 PM)Alcalde2 Wrote:  Everyone seems to say this but... If Tubby had signed the very same recruits, it would've been his best recruiting class since he left Kentucky. Lomax, Harris or Jones individually might have saved Tubbys job. Penny gets all of them

Lomax was never going to save Tubby's job. In fact, he signed with Wichita State, so he would have helped destroy it.

None of those guys would have brought the fans back...

The fans are who fired Tubby

If there were still 10k butts in the seats at the end of last year he would still be here regardless of recruiting class.

(03-03-2019 08:30 PM)BartlettTigerFan Wrote:  If everyone was completely honest, and considering the last 6 years, if we'd been told at the start of the season we'd definitely be playing in at least the NIT, who wouldn't have been thrilled?

This exactly.....but still, let's win the conference tourney & do even more.

(03-06-2019 11:28 AM)tigergreen Wrote:  

(03-03-2019 08:30 PM)BartlettTigerFan Wrote:  If everyone was completely honest, and considering the last 6 years, if we'd been told at the start of the season we'd definitely be playing in at least the NIT, who wouldn't have been thrilled?

This exactly.....but still, let's win the conference tourney & do even more.

I was in no way arguing against that. :)

(03-06-2019 08:34 AM)macgar32 Wrote:  

(03-05-2019 11:38 PM)Alcalde2 Wrote:  One thing not mentioned in regards to our predicted finish..... The conference as a whole is tougher than anyone predicted it to be.
Houston is immensely better than expected
Cincy is slightly better than expected
UCF is about what they were expected to be
Temple is better than expected
USF is far better than expected

I will give you Houston...

But Cinci's best win OOC was Ole Miss
Temple's best win OOC was ?
USF's best win OOC was ?
UCF's best win OOC was Alabama

In conference your statement is correct but in college basketball as a whole are they really better than expected?

I think the fact that we entered this year with no teams in the top 25, and we currently have three in the top 25 speaks to exceeding expectations. At least at the top. USF has even made vast improvement in the metrics. The problem is ECU is as bad as we thought, and Tulane is worse.

Bad day for a lot of bubble teams, hopefully good for us:

(03-06-2019 11:28 AM)tigergreen Wrote:  

(03-03-2019 08:30 PM)BartlettTigerFan Wrote:  If everyone was completely honest, and considering the last 6 years, if we'd been told at the start of the season we'd definitely be playing in at least the NIT, who wouldn't have been thrilled?

This exactly.....but still, let's win the conference tourney & do even more.

absolutely

(03-04-2019 10:52 AM)MemphisMojo Wrote:  NIT?

We are winning the AAC tournament.

Hell Ya

(03-06-2019 08:34 AM)macgar32 Wrote:  

(03-05-2019 11:38 PM)Alcalde2 Wrote:  One thing not mentioned in regards to our predicted finish..... The conference as a whole is tougher than anyone predicted it to be.
Houston is immensely better than expected
Cincy is slightly better than expected
UCF is about what they were expected to be
Temple is better than expected
USF is far better than expected

I will give you Houston...

But Cinci's best win OOC was Ole Miss
Temple's best win OOC was ?
USF's best win OOC was ?
UCF's best win OOC was Alabama

In conference your statement is correct but in college basketball as a whole are they really better than expected?

Cincys overall OOC SOS is weak.... but Xavier and UCLA had a down year.. yes their best win was Ole Miss but they did win the other two..

Temples win at Missouri is actually a quad 1 win.... regardless, they are just a solid team who is in the 50-75 range

As someone said, we have 3 ranked teams, two more solid 50-75ish teams in Temple and Memphis, the middle of the pack are at least challenging teams.. but like any conference we have our doormats in ECU and Tulane

(03-07-2019 06:48 PM)ImaTiger Wrote:  

(03-04-2019 10:52 AM)MemphisMojo Wrote:  NIT?

We are winning the AAC tournament.

Hell Ya

I advise you to bet your house, your car, your retirement, and the rest of this year's salary on the Tigers to Win the AAC tournament.

(03-07-2019 11:04 PM)bluebacker Wrote:  

(03-07-2019 06:48 PM)ImaTiger Wrote:  

(03-04-2019 10:52 AM)MemphisMojo Wrote:  NIT?

We are winning the AAC tournament.

Hell Ya

I advise you to bet your house, your car, your retirement, and the rest of this year's salary on the Tigers to Win the AAC tournament.

If we win the tournament, I mean when we win, what kind of seed could we get in ncaa tournament?

3

(03-07-2019 11:09 PM)Joe1 Wrote:  

(03-07-2019 11:04 PM)bluebacker Wrote:  

(03-07-2019 06:48 PM)ImaTiger Wrote:  

(03-04-2019 10:52 AM)MemphisMojo Wrote:  NIT?

We are winning the AAC tournament.

Hell Ya

I advise you to bet your house, your car, your retirement, and the rest of this year's salary on the Tigers to Win the AAC tournament.

If we win the tournament, I mean when we win, what kind of seed could we get in ncaa tournament?

12

6

(03-07-2019 11:41 PM)Tigerspartan Wrote:  

(03-07-2019 11:09 PM)Joe1 Wrote:  

(03-07-2019 11:04 PM)bluebacker Wrote:  

(03-07-2019 06:48 PM)ImaTiger Wrote:  

(03-04-2019 10:52 AM)MemphisMojo Wrote:  NIT?

We are winning the AAC tournament.

Hell Ya

I advise you to bet your house, your car, your retirement, and the rest of this year's salary on the Tigers to Win the AAC tournament.

If we win the tournament, I mean when we win, what kind of seed could we get in ncaa tournament?

12

That would mean some poor 5 seed would lose to us.

(03-08-2019 12:18 AM)snowtiger Wrote:  6

we could beat temple, cincy, and Houston by 25 points In the conference tourney and not be anywhere close to a 6 seed