(02-26-2019 08:30 PM)mturn017 Wrote:  

(02-26-2019 06:06 PM)Cyniclone Wrote:  In case anyone's curious, ODU got one vote accounting for both its points — a No. 24 vote from John Feinstein. Feinstein also gave VCU all its poll points (four) by voting them No. 22.

In summation, apparently I'm John Feinstein.

How you gonna rank the skid marks 2 spots ahead of us when we beat them?

Because rankings are more than head-vs.-head. Otherwise ODU should be ranked below St. Joseph's, Marshall, FAU and UTSA.

You can make a case for either. 22 and 24 are effectively a coin flip. I certainly wouldn't lose any sleep over ODU being 22 and VCU 24.

(02-26-2019 10:05 PM)Cyniclone Wrote:  

(02-26-2019 08:30 PM)mturn017 Wrote:  

(02-26-2019 06:06 PM)Cyniclone Wrote:  In case anyone's curious, ODU got one vote accounting for both its points — a No. 24 vote from John Feinstein. Feinstein also gave VCU all its poll points (four) by voting them No. 22.

In summation, apparently I'm John Feinstein.

How you gonna rank the skid marks 2 spots ahead of us when we beat them?

Because rankings are more than head-vs.-head. Otherwise ODU should be ranked below St. Joseph's, Marshall, FAU and UTSA.

You can make a case for either. 22 and 24 are effectively a coin flip. I certainly wouldn't lose any sleep over ODU being 22 and VCU 24.

Sounds like VCU math to me. Get it right next week Feinstein or you’ll be losing more than sleep.

(02-26-2019 10:14 PM)mturn017 Wrote:  

(02-26-2019 10:05 PM)Cyniclone Wrote:  

(02-26-2019 08:30 PM)mturn017 Wrote:  

(02-26-2019 06:06 PM)Cyniclone Wrote:  In case anyone's curious, ODU got one vote accounting for both its points — a No. 24 vote from John Feinstein. Feinstein also gave VCU all its poll points (four) by voting them No. 22.

In summation, apparently I'm John Feinstein.

How you gonna rank the skid marks 2 spots ahead of us when we beat them?

Because rankings are more than head-vs.-head. Otherwise ODU should be ranked below St. Joseph's, Marshall, FAU and UTSA.

You can make a case for either. 22 and 24 are effectively a coin flip. I certainly wouldn't lose any sleep over ODU being 22 and VCU 24.

Sounds like VCU math to me. Get it right next week Feinstein or you’ll be losing more than sleep.

You watch your mouth mister or I'll replace ODU with whoever the hell's leading the Patriot League

(02-26-2019 11:15 PM)Cyniclone Wrote:  

(02-26-2019 10:14 PM)mturn017 Wrote:  

(02-26-2019 10:05 PM)Cyniclone Wrote:  

(02-26-2019 08:30 PM)mturn017 Wrote:  

(02-26-2019 06:06 PM)Cyniclone Wrote:  In case anyone's curious, ODU got one vote accounting for both its points — a No. 24 vote from John Feinstein. Feinstein also gave VCU all its poll points (four) by voting them No. 22.

In summation, apparently I'm John Feinstein.

How you gonna rank the skid marks 2 spots ahead of us when we beat them?

Because rankings are more than head-vs.-head. Otherwise ODU should be ranked below St. Joseph's, Marshall, FAU and UTSA.

You can make a case for either. 22 and 24 are effectively a coin flip. I certainly wouldn't lose any sleep over ODU being 22 and VCU 24.

Sounds like VCU math to me. Get it right next week Feinstein or you’ll be losing more than sleep.

You watch your mouth mister or I'll replace ODU with whoever the hell's leading the Patriot League

Alright Lets see your rationale behind your ranking of shitzel suckers two spots ahead of ODU.

(02-26-2019 11:26 PM)12thmonarch Wrote:  

(02-26-2019 11:15 PM)Cyniclone Wrote:  

(02-26-2019 10:14 PM)mturn017 Wrote:  

(02-26-2019 10:05 PM)Cyniclone Wrote:  

(02-26-2019 08:30 PM)mturn017 Wrote:  How you gonna rank the skid marks 2 spots ahead of us when we beat them?

Because rankings are more than head-vs.-head. Otherwise ODU should be ranked below St. Joseph's, Marshall, FAU and UTSA.

You can make a case for either. 22 and 24 are effectively a coin flip. I certainly wouldn't lose any sleep over ODU being 22 and VCU 24.

Sounds like VCU math to me. Get it right next week Feinstein or you’ll be losing more than sleep.

You watch your mouth mister or I'll replace ODU with whoever the hell's leading the Patriot League

Alright Lets see your rationale behind your ranking of shitzel suckers two spots ahead of ODU.

To piss off ODU fans, of course.

VCU has more good wins than ODU. ODU has the best win (@Syracuse), but I'd take VCU's top five wins (@Texas, vs. Tulane, @Dayton, Hofstra, Dayton/Wichita State/Bowling Green) over ODU's (@Syracuse, VCU, @WKU, Louisiana Tech, Southern Miss). VCU's worst loss is either @Rhode Island or home to Charleston, and both are better than any loss that ODU has suffered, outside of the neutral-site game with Oregon State.

And that's just eyeball test. If you want metrics: VCU is 2-4 against Q1 and 3-0 against Q2; ODU is 2-2 against Q1/2 combined. VCU has two losses to Q3s; ODU has four to Q3 and one to Q4.

The best argument ODU has against VCU is that they beat VCU, and that's obviously something you take into consideration. But it's not the end of the conversation, unless you want to say that because ODU lost to Marshall, FAU and UTSA, they must rank below all of them.

Both teams are very close. One isn't a slam dunk over the other, but you asked for an explanation and here it is.

(also I got $100 and some, ahem, favors from the VCU boosters)

(02-27-2019 12:43 PM)Cyniclone Wrote:  

(02-26-2019 11:26 PM)12thmonarch Wrote:  

(02-26-2019 11:15 PM)Cyniclone Wrote:  

(02-26-2019 10:14 PM)mturn017 Wrote:  

(02-26-2019 10:05 PM)Cyniclone Wrote:  Because rankings are more than head-vs.-head. Otherwise ODU should be ranked below St. Joseph's, Marshall, FAU and UTSA.

You can make a case for either. 22 and 24 are effectively a coin flip. I certainly wouldn't lose any sleep over ODU being 22 and VCU 24.

Sounds like VCU math to me. Get it right next week Feinstein or you’ll be losing more than sleep.

You watch your mouth mister or I'll replace ODU with whoever the hell's leading the Patriot League

Alright Lets see your rationale behind your ranking of shitzel suckers two spots ahead of ODU.

To piss off ODU fans, of course.

VCU has more good wins than ODU. ODU has the best win (@Syracuse), but I'd take VCU's top five wins (@Texas, vs. Tulane, @Dayton, Hofstra, Dayton/Wichita State/Bowling Green) over ODU's (@Syracuse, VCU, @WKU, Louisiana Tech, Southern Miss). VCU's worst loss is either @Rhode Island or home to Charleston, and both are better than any loss that ODU has suffered, outside of the neutral-site game with Oregon State.

And that's just eyeball test. If you want metrics: VCU is 2-4 against Q1 and 3-0 against Q2; ODU is 2-2 against Q1/2 combined. VCU has two losses to Q3s; ODU has four to Q3 and one to Q4.

The best argument ODU has against VCU is that they beat VCU, and that's obviously something you take into consideration. But it's not the end of the conversation, unless you want to say that because ODU lost to Marshall, FAU and UTSA, they must rank below all of them.

Both teams are very close. One isn't a slam dunk over the other, but you asked for an explanation and here it is.

(also I got $100 and some, ahem, favors from the VCU boosters)

I personally don't think Head-to-Head is how we should be ranking because it will become a giant mind ******* cluster-moss ball of mess. We started awful and progressed fine. I think a fair to all ranking metric can't be invented because various teams gel or find footing at varying times during the season. I understand your criteria but in a bigger picture what has Tulane/Dayton/Hofstra or Bowling green done to say they are decent wins. If you cancel out Syracuse with Texas the rest is really debatable because it seems unfair to rank stupid Dayton or Hofstra higher than WKU which has better talent and has done more during the season. I wish ODU has scheduled better and not lost to fuckin Ore St and St Johns earlier in the season.

Can we get Cyniclone banned for a week on pure principal? He’s an alright guy and all but he’s forgetting which message board he’s signed into.

(02-27-2019 01:21 PM)mturn017 Wrote:  Can we get Cyniclone banned for a week on pure principal? He’s an alright guy and all but he’s forgetting which message board he’s signed into.

LOL if we can't silence him then lets get him banned but yeah Cyniclone has two heads, a lion and a sheep with the lion trying to eat the stinky sheep away.

(02-27-2019 01:21 PM)mturn017 Wrote:  Can we get Cyniclone banned for a week on pure principal? He’s an alright guy and all but he’s forgetting which message board he’s signed into.

My high school principal loved me and I think all the other principals I've had are dead now, so good luck with that.

(02-27-2019 01:30 PM)12thmonarch Wrote:  

(02-27-2019 01:21 PM)mturn017 Wrote:  Can we get Cyniclone banned for a week on pure principal? He’s an alright guy and all but he’s forgetting which message board he’s signed into.

LOL if we can't silence him then lets get him banned but yeah Cyniclone has two heads, a lion and a sheep with the lion trying to eat the stinky sheep away.

If I really wanted to make an unholy hell out of my sports fandom I'd get a post-grad degree from Richmond.

(02-27-2019 01:57 PM)Cyniclone Wrote:  

(02-27-2019 01:21 PM)mturn017 Wrote:  Can we get Cyniclone banned for a week on pure principal? He’s an alright guy and all but he’s forgetting which message board he’s signed into.

My high school principal loved me and I think all the other principals I've had are dead now, so good luck with that.

At least your ODU grammar is better than your VCU math.

Everything has come full rhombus.

Excellent.

(02-27-2019 01:58 PM)Cyniclone Wrote:  

(02-27-2019 01:30 PM)12thmonarch Wrote:  

(02-27-2019 01:21 PM)mturn017 Wrote:  Can we get Cyniclone banned for a week on pure principal? He’s an alright guy and all but he’s forgetting which message board he’s signed into.

LOL if we can't silence him then lets get him banned but yeah Cyniclone has two heads, a lion and a sheep with the lion trying to eat the stinky sheep away.

If I really wanted to make an unholy hell out of my sports fandom I'd get a post-grad degree from Richmond.

LOL at that point we might stop tolerating you with that over powering stink that you bring south from RVA.

Good. Votes are good for the league.

Up to 3 big ones now.