Yep, He does not trust Alderson, Hill or Gordon to get points and play some minutes. What do these players do now and what will happen next season. His 2 big guys he is bringing in will be freshman and as freshman big men do in this conference, will take time. Both Jackson's, Luke, Littleson, Edu, and Alderson (if he is here) will have to pick up their game. I have not been impressed over all with Luke's game. I have not seen signficant improvement from last season. Look at guys from other mid majors such as Loudan Love soph Center (Wright State), Cameron Krutwig (Loyola Chi) , 6-9, Soph ave. 21 points again, and Dayton"s Obadiah Toppin, freshman Center ave. 14/game who are doing far better.

Thankfully, I wasn't at the game from what I've been reading. Not to compare UT to Michigan, but, Michigan only uses 8 or 9 guys too and their bench is full of talent. I do believe we are a tired team. I'll be there Saturday and................
GO ROCKETS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Minutes per starterare way down from last year. I think the Alderson minutes in OOC werearecognition of starters needing more rest. Last year we had four guys with 30+ mpg,this year just two. Knapke and Navi are the only return starters averaging what they had last year. EMU’s starters avgmorempg than UT’s.

23 points off of turnovers. Eastern shot
3's at a 63% clip in the second half. 30 points in the paint .Not much production from the UT bigs.

Need to bring in a transfer power forward at 6-8, 240 would be nice, even for 1 season until Edu fully develops. Knapke can't get it done.

That 12-1 out-of-conference record is one of the most deceiving records in Toledo history. It did not prepare the team for league play whatsoever. It didn’t gain us any national respect whatsoever. It made all of us and every other fan hyped up for what could be a special season. Now we’re looking at a team with already 5 league losses. Coach K’s been at the helm for 9 years now. I want it badly for us fans but also for him. He’s a respectable guy and all-in for Toledo. But come on now, this season is getting out of hand! Unacceptable.

Sanford was 1-7 from 3 and 4-14 overall with 1 assist and no rebounds. Luke had 2 points and 4 boards in 20 minutes. 16 turnovers are too many. I think Minnie has torched us before. They obviously have no answer for him.

We were way too unselfish near the bucket and made 1 too many passes on many occasions. We even took some strange routes to the hole while in the paint. Not getting fouls called against us was part of that reason though. Sometimes Willy and Luke need to go straight up and just slam it.

(02-20-2019 12:06 PM)UofToledoFans Wrote:  We were way too unselfish near the bucket and made 1 too many passes on many occasions. We even took some strange routes to the hole while in the paint. Not getting fouls called against us was part of that reason though. Sometimes Willy and Luke need to go straight up and just slam it.

I think some of that was less unselfish than fearful of getting swatted, but you are dead on. Spacing was terrible-three guys in the paint trying to pass around one defender. EMU didn’t need anybody else down there.

I’m not sure I buy the fatigue excuse. I will say for having the all time school leader in 3s, we are a very mediocre/poor shooting team.

(02-20-2019 01:16 PM)adunifon Wrote:  I’m not sure I buy the fatigue excuse. I will say for having the all time school leader in 3s, we are a very mediocre/poor shooting team.

Lately.

There's no reason to give up a 22-0 run.[/u]

Dayton has only 8 scholarship players on their team and that for the most part is what they play use.

We needed Sanford to be Fletcher this year and he's not. His senior year has sort of been a dud. He'll again be a career 2nd team all MAC guy.

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(02-20-2019 09:27 PM)emanoh Wrote:  We needed Sanford to be Fletcher this year and he's not. His senior year has sort of been a dud. He'll again be a career 2nd team all MAC guy.

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To be fair, there are damn few career 2nd team All-MAC guys,and he’ll be the fourth leading scorer in Rocket history. It hasn’t been an awful career by any means.

(02-20-2019 11:30 PM)H2Oville Rocket Wrote:  

(02-20-2019 09:27 PM)emanoh Wrote:  We needed Sanford to be Fletcher this year and he's not. His senior year has sort of been a dud. He'll again be a career 2nd team all MAC guy.

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To be fair, there are damn few career 2nd team All-MAC guys,and he’ll be the fourth leading scorer in Rocket history. It hasn’t been an awful career by any means.

Not that I don't appreciate his 4 yr contribution and his steady output. I think it is safe to say his senior year is underwhelming. We really needed him to break out this year, but he has disappeared in more games than not.

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(02-21-2019 11:20 AM)emanoh Wrote:  

(02-20-2019 11:30 PM)H2Oville Rocket Wrote:  

(02-20-2019 09:27 PM)emanoh Wrote:  We needed Sanford to be Fletcher this year and he's not. His senior year has sort of been a dud. He'll again be a career 2nd team all MAC guy.

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To be fair, there are damn few career 2nd team All-MAC guys,and he’ll be the fourth leading scorer in Rocket history. It hasn’t been an awful career by any means.

Not that I don't appreciate his 4 yr contribution and his steady output. I think it is safe to say his senior year is underwhelming. We really needed him to break out this year, but he has disappeared in more games than not.

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Prior to the EMU game I posted our guys stats this season vs. last. Jalen has round about the same total numbers but a way worse fg and 3pt percentage. Bascially he is taking more shots because we don't have a Fletcher, and he is getting the same output as last year because of volume.

He will not be forgotten in Toledo lore but he isn't a top 5 or maybe 10 guard in UT history. He played not only another full season compared to some on the list but played more games per season. Jon Jon is another on that list who just played a ton of games. Boothe, Pierson and Juice also played lots of games but their game impact was more feared around the league in their senior seasons by far.

(02-21-2019 11:45 AM)UofToledoFans Wrote:  

(02-21-2019 11:20 AM)emanoh Wrote:  

(02-20-2019 11:30 PM)H2Oville Rocket Wrote:  

(02-20-2019 09:27 PM)emanoh Wrote:  We needed Sanford to be Fletcher this year and he's not. His senior year has sort of been a dud. He'll again be a career 2nd team all MAC guy.

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To be fair, there are damn few career 2nd team All-MAC guys,and he’ll be the fourth leading scorer in Rocket history. It hasn’t been an awful career by any means.

Not that I don't appreciate his 4 yr contribution and his steady output. I think it is safe to say his senior year is underwhelming. We really needed him to break out this year, but he has disappeared in more games than not.

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Prior to the EMU game I posted our guys stats this season vs. last. Jalen has round about the same total numbers but a way worse fg and 3pt percentage. Bascially he is taking more shots because we don't have a Fletcher, and he is getting the same output as last year because of volume.

He will not be forgotten in Toledo lore but he isn't a top 5 or maybe 10 guard in UT history. He played not only another full season compared to some on the list but played more games per season. Jon Jon is another on that list who just played a ton of games. Boothe, Pierson and Juice also played lots of games but their game impact was more feared around the league in their senior seasons by far.

Makes sense his stats are down. Without Fletcher, teams are keying on him.

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(02-21-2019 12:32 PM)emanoh Wrote:  

(02-21-2019 11:45 AM)UofToledoFans Wrote:  

(02-21-2019 11:20 AM)emanoh Wrote:  

(02-20-2019 11:30 PM)H2Oville Rocket Wrote:  

(02-20-2019 09:27 PM)emanoh Wrote:  We needed Sanford to be Fletcher this year and he's not. His senior year has sort of been a dud. He'll again be a career 2nd team all MAC guy.

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To be fair, there are damn few career 2nd team All-MAC guys,and he’ll be the fourth leading scorer in Rocket history. It hasn’t been an awful career by any means.

Not that I don't appreciate his 4 yr contribution and his steady output. I think it is safe to say his senior year is underwhelming. We really needed him to break out this year, but he has disappeared in more games than not.

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Prior to the EMU game I posted our guys stats this season vs. last. Jalen has round about the same total numbers but a way worse fg and 3pt percentage. Bascially he is taking more shots because we don't have a Fletcher, and he is getting the same output as last year because of volume.

He will not be forgotten in Toledo lore but he isn't a top 5 or maybe 10 guard in UT history. He played not only another full season compared to some on the list but played more games per season. Jon Jon is another on that list who just played a ton of games. Boothe, Pierson and Juice also played lots of games but their game impact was more feared around the league in their senior seasons by far.

Makes sense his stats are down. Without Fletcher, teams are keying on him.

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I guess that's the difference between a good player and a great player