The FCS game is usually the first home game of the season and that plays a huge role in attendance. If you play a pay check game you must balance that out with a buy game of your own. If not you end up with 5 home games.

Since most of us will take that 1.9 million dollar check ( that's 1/4 to 1/5 of most of our FB budgets) buying a FCS game for 400k balances it out. Plus it's a easy win or should be

(05-30-2018 02:27 PM)HerdZoned Wrote:  

(05-30-2018 01:06 PM)Curtisc83 Wrote:  

(05-30-2018 11:13 AM)HerdZoned Wrote:  

(05-30-2018 10:25 AM)ODU AGGIE Wrote:  No. The Monarchs are being paid $1.32 million to play the first game of the season at Liberty,
a team that is in its transition year to FBS, and Liberty counts as an FBS team for bowl purposes. The only FCS team on the schedule is VMI.

That's almost like saying Campbell isn't non scholarship anymore. Sure they moved to the Big South and will now give 32 scholarships a year away. But the move doesn't happen until July 1, 2018. So as of right now they still don't have a scholarship player on their roster.

Same with Liberty, they didn't get a waiver until after signing day and their transition doesn't start till July 1, 2018. So they don't have a single player that was recruited to a IA school.

That and they were at best a middle of the pack Big South school most years. The last 3 years they have had a 6-5 record. If ODU loss this game or is in a dog fight until the end then you will be in for a rough year. Truthfully ODU should look like Marshall at ODU in 2014.

We announced we got the waiver in Feb 2017 long before any deadline. Last season was our first FCS to FBS season and we played as an FCS independent in transition. This coming season we will be FBS but in the last year of transition. Sooo I’m not sure what you are getting at.

Im getting t you are a degree mill that is a right winged propaganda machine. A so called university that has "Creationisim" as a legit science class and the students on campus are forced to go to brainwashing sessions at least once a week. Have fun with the Falwell stench on you. No legit IA conference will ever take you.

I could go on but it would be like arguing with a deaf mute. He can't hear or see you either.

Dang where did that come from?

It's herdzoned. Very far left wing extremist. Just let him be. He only watches MSNBC and gets worked up and vents here.

(05-30-2018 02:49 PM)SouthernMiss3613 Wrote:  

(05-30-2018 02:27 PM)HerdZoned Wrote:  

(05-30-2018 01:06 PM)Curtisc83 Wrote:  

(05-30-2018 11:13 AM)HerdZoned Wrote:  

(05-30-2018 10:25 AM)ODU AGGIE Wrote:  No. The Monarchs are being paid $1.32 million to play the first game of the season at Liberty,
a team that is in its transition year to FBS, and Liberty counts as an FBS team for bowl purposes. The only FCS team on the schedule is VMI.

That's almost like saying Campbell isn't non scholarship anymore. Sure they moved to the Big South and will now give 32 scholarships a year away. But the move doesn't happen until July 1, 2018. So as of right now they still don't have a scholarship player on their roster.

Same with Liberty, they didn't get a waiver until after signing day and their transition doesn't start till July 1, 2018. So they don't have a single player that was recruited to a IA school.

That and they were at best a middle of the pack Big South school most years. The last 3 years they have had a 6-5 record. If ODU loss this game or is in a dog fight until the end then you will be in for a rough year. Truthfully ODU should look like Marshall at ODU in 2014.

We announced we got the waiver in Feb 2017 long before any deadline. Last season was our first FCS to FBS season and we played as an FCS independent in transition. This coming season we will be FBS but in the last year of transition. Sooo I’m not sure what you are getting at.

Im getting t you are a degree mill that is a right winged propaganda machine. A so called university that has "Creationisim" as a legit science class and the students on campus are forced to go to brainwashing sessions at least once a week. Have fun with the Falwell stench on you. No legit IA conference will ever take you.

I could go on but it would be like arguing with a deaf mute. He can't hear or see you either.

Dang where did that come from?

From a idiot that has to bring religion into sports and this school doesn't fit into his lifestyle or sexual feelings. So he feels it's his job to make everyone see how evil the school and students are.

Maybe he should look within before calling someone a deaf mute

(05-30-2018 02:58 PM)Jack Bauer Wrote:  It's herdzoned. Very far left wing extremist. Just let him be. He only watches MSNBC and gets worked up and vents here.

Sounds like a reasonable person to me.

I come here to get away from politics.

Everyone plays FCS schools so it doesn't hinder us. We play into P5 hands by trying to schedule up and we lose because some(many?) G5 teams will lose bowl eligibility and they can spread them farther down the P5 line. It doesn't matter what schedule we play, as UCF proved, as to getting in the playoffs. And trading an FCS for ULM isn't gonna help with the access bowl. I feel it's something individual teams should do if they want, but not be a requirement. And also being able to guarantee that 6th, maybe 7th home game means a great windfall to teams that draw 25k+

If you're team really has no shot at doing much and has meager attendance, that's when I would forego FCS games and fill the whole OOC with cash games at P5 schools. Build a budget up, maybe sneak in a few upsets, get a rep as a road warrior and build a fan base from that. That's how a lot of schools did it and you get die-hard fans that follow you anywhere. And play on the road at big schools where you recruit so their families can see them live and on TV.

Best solution is like our basketball solution but need another conference to participate.
You want to build your SoS quick, then schedule 2 OOC one or two P5s and and/or an FCS or a G5, not in sister conference, and then at the end of the season after a sister conference does the same, the last two games of the year are played against each other. #1 and #2 vs both #1 and 2#, #3 and #4 vs both #3 and #4, etc. Overall #1 ranking plays other #1 at home and #2 away, to get more value away vs lesser opponent. #2s play the opposite. Same thing for next pod down for 3s and 4s, etc. Sunbelt would be good for this as the footprint overlaps and it shuts out the MAC, MWC and AAC from getting games against us forcing them to either do the same thing or go on the road a bunch to fill their schedule equating to more losses overall upping our chances.

Can even play the conference championship games the week before the inter-conference games. It's the same number of weeks, either way, because both conferences will have the two open weeks.

Five home games and a lesser chance at bowl eligibility? Sign me up!

(05-30-2018 02:36 PM)WKUYG Wrote:  The FCS game is usually the first home game of the season and that plays a huge role in attendance. If you play a pay check game you must balance that out with a buy game of your own. If not you end up with 5 home games.

Since most of us will take that 1.9 million dollar check ( that's 1/4 to 1/5 of most of our FB budgets) buying a FCS game for 400k balances it out. Plus it's a easy win or should be

For some teams, that may be the case. For Southern Miss, the SWAC teams attract big crowds whenever they play. For instance, last season Southern Miss opened up with Kentucky of the $EC at home and had almost 2,000 more fans the next week at home to watch Southern University of Baton Rouge.

UNT’s AD Wren Baker hasn’t scheduled a game against an FCS team since he has been here. He also hasn’t scheduled a “body bag” game but has instead been signing exclusively home & homes. We still have the old scheduled FCS games on the schedule, but our AD hasn’t scheduled anymore, and he has hinted on Twitter that he doesn’t want to sign any of them.

(05-30-2018 03:14 PM)goliath74 Wrote:  

(05-30-2018 02:58 PM)Jack Bauer Wrote:  It's herdzoned. Very far left wing extremist. Just let him be. He only watches MSNBC and gets worked up and vents here.

Sounds like a reasonable person to me.

But he is the only one spouting off his beliefs constantly

I don't see the necessity. If you have a chance for the access bowl it might help but with FB games scheduled so far out it's a crap shoot. I'm fine scheduling Hampton or NSU for the opener. W&M can go **** themselves.

(05-30-2018 01:54 PM)SouthernMiss3613 Wrote:  

(05-30-2018 01:01 PM)cmett003 Wrote:  

(05-30-2018 11:38 AM)va-eagle Wrote:  

(05-30-2018 10:00 AM)cmett003 Wrote:  ... Conference USA should be first conference to stop scheduling FCS games. ...

I disagree. You'll probably see some of the biggest attendances are when nearby FCS schools play us. ...

I call bs, no way your biggest crowds are for FCS games. ...

People that don't even follow football will show up just to see the SWAC school's band.

This!

Rice is hosting Prairie View A&M in its first game of the Bloomgren era ... and I bet many will attend to watch the MOB / Marching Storm tandem. :-)

I wish I lived closer.

(05-30-2018 04:53 PM)AustinFromUNT Wrote:  UNT’s AD Wren Baker hasn’t scheduled a game against an FCS team since he has been here. He also hasn’t scheduled a “body bag” game but has instead been signing exclusively home & homes. We still have the old scheduled FCS games on the schedule, but our AD hasn’t scheduled anymore, and he has hinted on Twitter that he doesn’t want to sign any of them.

Just to be accurate, Baker scheduled Stephen F. Austin in 2022 only a few months ago. http://www.meangreensports.com/sports/m-...17aaa.html

(05-30-2018 04:53 PM)AustinFromUNT Wrote:  UNT’s AD Wren Baker hasn’t scheduled a game against an FCS team since he has been here. He also hasn’t scheduled a “body bag” game but has instead been signing exclusively home & homes. We still have the old scheduled FCS games on the schedule, but our AD hasn’t scheduled anymore, and he has hinted on Twitter that he doesn’t want to sign any of them.

Texas has great FCS teams. Must be the fear of getting beaten.

(05-30-2018 03:23 PM)pilot172000 Wrote:  I come here to get away from politics.

Same

Is Liberty really a diploma mill?
If so, then I agree.
But, being a Christian institution does not automatically equate to "diploma mill".
Was Princeton a diploma mill when they had presidents like Jonathan Edwards?

Playing a local HBCU is usually a good move: solid attendance and usually a win.

ODU playing at Liberty this season is a good move, too. Lots of $$, and probably a win. Just make sure that you win, is the main thing.

(05-30-2018 07:58 PM)jcduncan13 Wrote:  

(05-30-2018 03:23 PM)pilot172000 Wrote:  I come here to get away from politics.

Same

You guys are so in the wrong place for that. You can't avoid it anywhere on this site. Whether it is left or right you will find a lot of politics here.

(05-30-2018 08:15 PM)Noodles Wrote:  Is Liberty really a diploma mill?
If so, then I agree.
But, being a Christian institution does not automatically equate to "diploma mill".
Was Princeton a diploma mill when they had presidents like Jonathan Edwards?

Libertys online enrollment is absolutely ridiculous.