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RE: Could Supreme Court case spell the end of public sector unions?
I. HATE. UNIONS.
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Yeah, this is s good thing. I can see lots of folks being pissed at having their money taken from them by force to pay for something they obviously don't agree with. It's tantamount to legalized extortion.
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(02-12-2018 08:33 AM)Machiavelli Wrote:  I agree. There is no collective bargaining in this paradigm. I as a citizen can not be involved in the bargaining.


BS....


You are a citizen and can vote and this is why Gorsuch was such a huge deal. It's a stolen seat.

Public sector unions are simply legalized organized crime

Public sector union: "You give us this contract and we'll donate to your re-election campaign"

Leftist politician: " Deal! Besides.....it's not my money anyway, it's the taxpayers"

Both: "AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!"
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(02-12-2018 08:33 AM)Machiavelli Wrote:  
Quote:I agree. There is no collective bargaining in this paradigm. I as a citizen can not be involved in the bargaining.
BS....
You are a citizen and can vote and this is why Gorsuch was such a huge deal. It's a stolen seat.

When does a citizen get to vote on approving a union contract?

The problem is that collective bargaining is merely one-sided extortion when there are no competing interests at the table. With public sector unions, the union wants everything it can get, and the other side simply wants to get them back to work with minimum or no disruption.

I don't know a way to introduce into the process someone legitimately concerned about where tax money goes, or how much tax money we need. The guys negotiating for the employer don't care about the economics of the deal, because it's not coming out of their pockets. And the ones whose pockets it is coming out of are not at the table. And they can give away huge retirement packages without having to fund them, because that will be somebody else's problem after they are long gone.
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Public sector union: "You give us this contract and we'll donate to your re-election campaign"


This is not how it works and you know that.
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(02-12-2018 11:05 AM)Machiavelli Wrote:  Public sector union: "You give us this contract and we'll donate to your re-election campaign"


This is not how it works and you know that.

So how large is the WI teacher's union now?

How much money did the state and local communities save once the union was not forcing non-members to pay dues?
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Thank you,

It’s not about protecting individual members it’s about busting unions.
It’s always been about busting unions and that is why we have a shrinking middle class. The 20’s are upon us again and we all know what came after that. What’s crazy is Trump won because of the Union vote in the Midwest and his Supreme Court pick is going to bust unions.

That’s always has been the goal and they have succeeded. I fully expect this case to favor Republicans and if an Obama appointee was seated it would be decided inDemocrats favor. Our courts have become way too political. We can see where this is going to go. You just need to learn to adapt. Doesn’t make it right though. Just another partisan decision ina polarized society.
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At the end of this....

You get teachers arrested for complaining about a Superintendent making 150,000 why teachers make 50,000. That's where Right to Work leads. Inequality.

Yes, it is happening. You've won. It's just bad for the vast majority of society.
02-12-2018 11:19 AM
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Found this about Wisconsin. Fact based article that doesn't take a side. Just the facts. Unions have been decimated. Fast and hard fall.


https://projects.jsonline.com/news/2016/...ct-10.html
02-12-2018 11:21 AM
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Meanwhile with Citizens United the Koch brothers have 1.4 billion to spend on 2018 elections multiply this by every other corporation. This is how fascism takes hold. It's a pendulum and 2010 swung fast and hard to the right. It might have been a fatal blow. I know I will be ok though, but I see the end of this and it's not going to be good for society as a whole.
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