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I'm interested in hearing you guys defend this. Who was this guy hurting? Was he a threat to this country? How was he harming our society? Is this a worthwhile effort from one of the many powerful federal law enforcement organizations? Going after a doctor with a normal life and family, who has received glowing references from his medical peers?
01-21-2018 08:46 PM
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(01-21-2018 08:25 PM)Nacho Wrote:  Neither do you apparently.

I don't pretend to. Your hearsay does.
01-21-2018 08:49 PM
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This one’s especially tough for them to defend because it doesn’t fit their Faux News stereotype of a dangerous illegal immigrant who hops the fence, deals drugs, and commits felonies.
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01-21-2018 09:14 PM
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(01-21-2018 09:14 PM)Hoekjeness Wrote:  This one’s especially tough for them to defend because it doesn’t fit their Faux News stereotype of a dangerous illegal immigrant who hops the fence, deals drugs, and commits felonies.

Well, yes. And he's "white."
01-21-2018 09:27 PM
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Clearly demonstrates the critical need for immigration reform.

The previous two administrations (Bush and Obama) irresponsibly allowed it to become anarchy.

Status que can't continue, regardless of who is in the White House, and no change can be done without some unintended consequences. Too large a problem that both parties have allowed to fester and get out of control. No easy answers.

My humble recommendation: amnesty and citizenship for all current illegals (and they are illegals), but deny them the right to vote, or own a firearm (similar to what happens to convicted felons). They should not be given the same rights as those who properly selected the legal option and endured the "hassle" to become citizens of this great nation, but it is significantly better than deportation as currently law calls for.

Deporting them is simply not realistic and is cruel in many cases, but the fact remains, they chose to take cuts in front of those those who were willing to endure the "hassle" of becoming a legal citizen of the United States and should not have the same rights.

After that, address why our current system for becoming a citizen is such a "hassle" and make the necessary changes. Then, put the hammer down on who is crossing the border illegally. While I do not think we need a physical wall, we certainly need a figurative one.

The problem grows daily.
01-22-2018 09:13 AM
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ICE is stepping up investigations. This guy has more than one run in with the law and now reported didn't fill out FDA paperwork correctly. You can't have it both ways, if you are going after the bad guys then you have to spot the red flags. ICE has been overlooking a lot of this the last two decades. This guy might be a great person but he didn't follow basic laws required for Green Card status. ICE officers aren't set up to make legal decisions on the spot they are following protocol. If the guy is innocent then let him prove it. Sounds like media is again reporting bits and pieces to fill the narrative.
01-22-2018 11:54 AM
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(01-22-2018 09:13 AM)GullLake Wrote:  Clearly demonstrates the critical need for immigration reform.

The previous two administrations (Bush and Obama) irresponsibly allowed it to become anarchy.

Not true. Both previous administrations pushed for immigration reform. The problem was that Republican leaders in the House and Senate refused to allow a vote on any legislation. They were (and are) afraid of the far right.

As a side note, there were 17 illegals arrested in Grayling, MI this weekend. No problem with that, however, there was no arrest of the contractor who hired them for the construction job. Immigration enforcement has always been negligent on the business people who hire them. That needs to end.
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17 people arrested by U.S. border patrol in Grayling

http://upnorthlive.com/news/local/17-arr...n-grayling
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(01-21-2018 06:30 PM)ColinApocalypse Wrote:  He has a permanent green card, allowing him to live and work in the United States. Why would he seek citizenship if it doesn't interest him? Have any of you tried to obtain citizenship in the US? Calling it a "hassle" would be putting it mildly.

Less of a hassle then dealing with ICE.

Apparently he's had some issues with police over the years. I'm not saying he's a hard core criminal, but he's not the saint some of you are portraying him as either.

He'll likely work out some deal with ICE, but I strongly recommend he try and get citizenship if he wants to stay in this country.

I have three university degrees in Electrical Engineering and have worked in the Auto Industry for almost 40 years, but I would NOT be allowed to stay in Japan and work in that nation as a 'green card' individual for decades. This guy needs to own up to his own mishandling of his status. Not everybody is a 'victim' much as Dimms like to make it out that way.

Who the hell used the stupid 'Gestapo' illustration? You haven't got the brains God gave geese, son.
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I said it and I stand by it. My degree in history speaks for itself here. Immigrants, minorities, political adversaries, activists, dissidents...they're all the first to go.

Seems I've got you riled up enough to use personal insults. I must have struck a nerve.

I keep hearing about his "run-ins with the law" and his criminal history. But the only information that's been made available is that he had a petty theft and destruction to property under $100 charge when he was 17, a few speeding tickets, and a domestic violence charge that he was found innocent of by a jury of his peers. So his only real criminal history is an assortment of moving violations and some teenage bullcrap from 20 years ago?

I guarantee everyone on this board has at least as much of a history of run-ins with law enforcement. So spare me the "no model citizen" shtick.


But keep deflecting. Nobody has answered my questions about who he was hurting and what threat he was to our country. Until that happens, I'll run under the assumption that this is just another flagrant example of federal government overreach and interference in our lives.
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