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RE: Where We Stand (Updated 1/17/18)
(01-17-2018 11:03 AM)Tigx Wrote:  He actually gave himself a hashtag based on his avatar name - #saloogied - and somehow doesn't see how strange that is.

Looks like you just #saloogied yourself.

I coined the phrase, then even added the trademark symbol to the end of it. A mod at the time got butthurt and banned the use of the trademark symbol (it's still banned).

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(01-17-2018 04:03 PM)BandwagonJumper Wrote:  
(01-17-2018 11:03 AM)Tigx Wrote:  He actually gave himself a hashtag based on his avatar name - #saloogied - and somehow doesn't see how strange that is.

Looks like you just #saloogied yourself.

I coined that phrase, then even added the trademark symbol to the end of it. A mod at the time got butthurt and banned the use of the trademark symbol (it's still banned).

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You both need help.. lol
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(01-17-2018 04:04 PM)memtiger1987 Wrote:  You both need help.. lol

Now that's something we can agree on.

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(01-17-2018 04:06 PM)BandwagonJumper Wrote:  
(01-17-2018 04:04 PM)memtiger1987 Wrote:  You both need help.. lol

Now that's something we can agree on.

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(01-17-2018 04:00 PM)gusrob Wrote:  Our conversations wreak of how poor to mediocre our BBall team is.


Next topic suggestion: Can we discuss how KenPom has under ranked us? I think we are a Top 130 team. What disrespect eh?!

Okay, instead let's wallow in negativity, that's always fun!
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RE: Where We Stand (Updated 1/17/18)
(01-17-2018 10:01 AM)salukiblue Wrote:  
(01-17-2018 12:30 AM)TOGC Wrote:  
(01-16-2018 11:33 PM)ddramone Wrote:  
(01-16-2018 06:32 PM)TOGC Wrote:  
(01-15-2018 05:47 PM)MTigerBlue Wrote:  If we win a couple more games, you might want to change your sig. That Lawson team (that people would be stupid not to see how superior it was over this one, per the hairdo) was one game ahead of where we are now (13-5, 3-2) and went 6-8 the rest of the way.

Don't be shocked when this team finishes with a better final record than last year's team.

Why would that really matter? A small, slow incremental change is not going to excite a fanbase that has seen a frightening decrease in attendance. I think Tubby can coach, whether he can recruit is wholly another matter. My biggest concern is that our program is descending into the likes of Houston, DePaul, St. John's, UNLV, St. Louis.

The fanbase is ignorant. Tubby is moving the team in the right direction without resorting to shady tactics like Cal did with WWW. Everyone picked the Tigers to finish as low as 9th but here we sit in 4th place.

We are 1/3rd of the way through the conference schedule. 1 1/2 games separates 4th from 9th.

The fact remains that Memphis' best two statistical wins are vs. Northern Kentucky and vs. a Temple team that is 8-9.

So far this year, Memphis has won every game they have been favored to win and lost all but the Temple game in which they were favored to lose.

Nothing wrong with that at all--they are pretty much right where most folks with sensible expectations and a firm understanding about the strength of the OOC schedule and the quality of the AAC would have them.

Lock-in the rankings at the start of the season, and you take out the changing lines. That is technically where everyone would have them when we made our estimates. Based on that, I think we're 2 games ahead of Sagarin.
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Walk offs.
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RE: Where We Stand (Updated 1/17/18)
(01-17-2018 04:32 PM)Tiger87 Wrote:  
(01-17-2018 10:01 AM)salukiblue Wrote:  
(01-17-2018 12:30 AM)TOGC Wrote:  
(01-16-2018 11:33 PM)ddramone Wrote:  
(01-16-2018 06:32 PM)TOGC Wrote:  Don't be shocked when this team finishes with a better final record than last year's team.

Why would that really matter? A small, slow incremental change is not going to excite a fanbase that has seen a frightening decrease in attendance. I think Tubby can coach, whether he can recruit is wholly another matter. My biggest concern is that our program is descending into the likes of Houston, DePaul, St. John's, UNLV, St. Louis.

The fanbase is ignorant. Tubby is moving the team in the right direction without resorting to shady tactics like Cal did with WWW. Everyone picked the Tigers to finish as low as 9th but here we sit in 4th place.

We are 1/3rd of the way through the conference schedule. 1 1/2 games separates 4th from 9th.

The fact remains that Memphis' best two statistical wins are vs. Northern Kentucky and vs. a Temple team that is 8-9.

So far this year, Memphis has won every game they have been favored to win and lost all but the Temple game in which they were favored to lose.

Nothing wrong with that at all--they are pretty much right where most folks with sensible expectations and a firm understanding about the strength of the OOC schedule and the quality of the AAC would have them.

Lock-in the rankings at the start of the season, and you take out the changing lines. That is technically where everyone would have them when we made our estimates. Based on that, I think we're 2 games ahead of Sagarin.

Temple for sure. UConn, maybe. But at the beginning of the season, it was a little different. They are down two players expected at the beginning and were w/o Larrier also last night.

That's why the current lines are a little better in that it takes into consideration all that is current, including gameplay and personnel (even though the Larrier dnp wasn't in the line).

The overarching point is that even most reasonable folks (and Vegas, Sagarin, etc..) would have Memphis favored to have won at least 11 games so far, and likely 12 if UConn is properly included. Obviously Temple is the one game we all can agree that Memphis won in which most didn't expect (either at the beginning of the season or on game day) for Memphis to have won.
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RE: Where We Stand (Updated 1/17/18)
(01-17-2018 04:03 PM)BandwagonJumper Wrote:  
(01-17-2018 11:03 AM)Tigx Wrote:  He actually gave himself a hashtag based on his avatar name - #saloogied - and somehow doesn't see how strange that is.

Looks like you just #saloogied yourself.

I coined the phrase, then even added the trademark symbol to the end of it. A mod at the time got butthurt and banned the use of the trademark symbol (it's still banned).

Here's a simple search of the term "saloogied", sorted by date as it first showed up at CSNBBS:

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Looks like someone got thrown off the bandwagon.
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(01-17-2018 08:10 PM)salukiblue Wrote:  
(01-17-2018 04:32 PM)Tiger87 Wrote:  
(01-17-2018 10:01 AM)salukiblue Wrote:  
(01-17-2018 12:30 AM)TOGC Wrote:  
(01-16-2018 11:33 PM)ddramone Wrote:  Why would that really matter? A small, slow incremental change is not going to excite a fanbase that has seen a frightening decrease in attendance. I think Tubby can coach, whether he can recruit is wholly another matter. My biggest concern is that our program is descending into the likes of Houston, DePaul, St. John's, UNLV, St. Louis.

The fanbase is ignorant. Tubby is moving the team in the right direction without resorting to shady tactics like Cal did with WWW. Everyone picked the Tigers to finish as low as 9th but here we sit in 4th place.

We are 1/3rd of the way through the conference schedule. 1 1/2 games separates 4th from 9th.

The fact remains that Memphis' best two statistical wins are vs. Northern Kentucky and vs. a Temple team that is 8-9.

So far this year, Memphis has won every game they have been favored to win and lost all but the Temple game in which they were favored to lose.

Nothing wrong with that at all--they are pretty much right where most folks with sensible expectations and a firm understanding about the strength of the OOC schedule and the quality of the AAC would have them.

Lock-in the rankings at the start of the season, and you take out the changing lines. That is technically where everyone would have them when we made our estimates. Based on that, I think we're 2 games ahead of Sagarin.

Temple for sure. UConn, maybe. But at the beginning of the season, it was a little different. They are down two players expected at the beginning and were w/o Larrier also last night.

That's why the current lines are a little better in that it takes into consideration all that is current, including gameplay and personnel (even though the Larrier dnp wasn't in the line).

The overarching point is that even most reasonable folks (and Vegas, Sagarin, etc..) would have Memphis favored to have won at least 11 games so far, and likely 12 if UConn is properly included. Obviously Temple is the one game we all can agree that Memphis won in which most didn't expect (either at the beginning of the season or on game day) for Memphis to have won.

I thought I downloaded a set of Sagarin's preseason numbers. But there are some discrepancies, so I'm not sure. It appears though that UConn was either 56 or 62 in preseasson. At one number, we're a home favorite. At the other, we're a home dog. Either way, they have outperformed preseason expectations. One extra win is something. Two extra wins at this point is fairly significant.
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Well, let's see if we can make some hay. We're not in the field, or even the bubble, now.

But, we are improving and we're not dead yet.

What's it going to take to dance?
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(01-18-2018 01:46 PM)Sundanceuiuc Wrote:  Well, let's see if we can make some hay. We're not in the field, or even the bubble, now.

But, we are improving and we're not dead yet.

What's it going to take to dance?

We can have no more than 2 more losses in the regular season...

If we lose 2 in the regular season but we would need to have at least 2 wins against Cincy and WSU to make up for it (Regular season and Tourney).

But honestly there will likely be at least 3 teams from the AAC...If we are clearly the 3rd best team with a RPI in the 30's we have a shot but our Margin for error is almost 0.
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(01-17-2018 10:20 AM)salukiblue Wrote:  
(01-17-2018 10:17 AM)Tigx Wrote:  
(01-17-2018 10:15 AM)salukiblue Wrote:  
(01-17-2018 10:09 AM)Tigx Wrote:  
(01-17-2018 10:04 AM)memtiger1987 Wrote:  Oh come on, they are way ahead of what you thought would happen...

True, and so funny. Guess I missed all those posts where Saluki said we'd be 4th in conference 19 games into the schedule.

Ummm...actually I had Memphis at 3-3 at this point which would put Memphis at....

4th place.

Sure. Hey Mr. Search, go back and search all your negative posts, and show us where you had Memphis alone in 4th place in the AAC 19 games into the schedule. We'll wait.

I just provided you the link dumb dumb.

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Tulane-W
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UConn-W


That is 3-3.

Now look at the AAC standings.

Memphis at 3-3 is 4th place.

Did you happen to see the CBSS interview with Mick Cronin on the Cincinnati Bearcats?
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(01-18-2018 01:39 PM)Tiger87 Wrote:  
(01-17-2018 08:10 PM)salukiblue Wrote:  
(01-17-2018 04:32 PM)Tiger87 Wrote:  
(01-17-2018 10:01 AM)salukiblue Wrote:  
(01-17-2018 12:30 AM)TOGC Wrote:  The fanbase is ignorant. Tubby is moving the team in the right direction without resorting to shady tactics like Cal did with WWW. Everyone picked the Tigers to finish as low as 9th but here we sit in 4th place.

We are 1/3rd of the way through the conference schedule. 1 1/2 games separates 4th from 9th.

The fact remains that Memphis' best two statistical wins are vs. Northern Kentucky and vs. a Temple team that is 8-9.

So far this year, Memphis has won every game they have been favored to win and lost all but the Temple game in which they were favored to lose.

Nothing wrong with that at all--they are pretty much right where most folks with sensible expectations and a firm understanding about the strength of the OOC schedule and the quality of the AAC would have them.

Lock-in the rankings at the start of the season, and you take out the changing lines. That is technically where everyone would have them when we made our estimates. Based on that, I think we're 2 games ahead of Sagarin.

Temple for sure. UConn, maybe. But at the beginning of the season, it was a little different. They are down two players expected at the beginning and were w/o Larrier also last night.

That's why the current lines are a little better in that it takes into consideration all that is current, including gameplay and personnel (even though the Larrier dnp wasn't in the line).

The overarching point is that even most reasonable folks (and Vegas, Sagarin, etc..) would have Memphis favored to have won at least 11 games so far, and likely 12 if UConn is properly included. Obviously Temple is the one game we all can agree that Memphis won in which most didn't expect (either at the beginning of the season or on game day) for Memphis to have won.

I thought I downloaded a set of Sagarin's preseason numbers. But there are some discrepancies, so I'm not sure. It appears though that UConn was either 56 or 62 in preseasson. At one number, we're a home favorite. At the other, we're a home dog. Either way, they have outperformed preseason expectations. One extra win is something. Two extra wins at this point is fairly significant.

Certainly not going to go that far.

The win over Temple was unexpected, BUT it's not like Temple is some juggernaut. They are 9-9.

The UConn win was a reasonable outcome in the preseason. UConn was 16-17 last year, lost a lot, and added some new pieces. And at home, it wouldn't be remarkable to win that game.

In present tense, the win was totally expected. Three of the players who started in the opening month for UConn did not play due to suspension or injury.
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(01-18-2018 04:18 PM)salukiblue Wrote:  
(01-18-2018 01:39 PM)Tiger87 Wrote:  
(01-17-2018 08:10 PM)salukiblue Wrote:  
(01-17-2018 04:32 PM)Tiger87 Wrote:  
(01-17-2018 10:01 AM)salukiblue Wrote:  We are 1/3rd of the way through the conference schedule. 1 1/2 games separates 4th from 9th.

The fact remains that Memphis' best two statistical wins are vs. Northern Kentucky and vs. a Temple team that is 8-9.

So far this year, Memphis has won every game they have been favored to win and lost all but the Temple game in which they were favored to lose.

Nothing wrong with that at all--they are pretty much right where most folks with sensible expectations and a firm understanding about the strength of the OOC schedule and the quality of the AAC would have them.

Lock-in the rankings at the start of the season, and you take out the changing lines. That is technically where everyone would have them when we made our estimates. Based on that, I think we're 2 games ahead of Sagarin.

Temple for sure. UConn, maybe. But at the beginning of the season, it was a little different. They are down two players expected at the beginning and were w/o Larrier also last night.

That's why the current lines are a little better in that it takes into consideration all that is current, including gameplay and personnel (even though the Larrier dnp wasn't in the line).

The overarching point is that even most reasonable folks (and Vegas, Sagarin, etc..) would have Memphis favored to have won at least 11 games so far, and likely 12 if UConn is properly included. Obviously Temple is the one game we all can agree that Memphis won in which most didn't expect (either at the beginning of the season or on game day) for Memphis to have won.

I thought I downloaded a set of Sagarin's preseason numbers. But there are some discrepancies, so I'm not sure. It appears though that UConn was either 56 or 62 in preseasson. At one number, we're a home favorite. At the other, we're a home dog. Either way, they have outperformed preseason expectations. One extra win is something. Two extra wins at this point is fairly significant.

Certainly not going to go that far.

The win over Temple was unexpected, BUT it's not like Temple is some juggernaut. They are 9-9.

The UConn win was a reasonable outcome in the preseason. UConn was 16-17 last year, lost a lot, and added some new pieces. And at home, it wouldn't be remarkable to win that game.

In present tense, the win was totally expected. Three of the players who started in the opening month for UConn did not play due to suspension or injury.

Did you expect it after the Cinci or UAB game?

Or Sienna, Mercer, etc?

I’m not saying this team is the greatest ever, but they sure give the greatest effort in years! Not sure what clicked, but they are way outperforming my expectations of THIS team.
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(01-18-2018 04:56 PM)memtiger1987 Wrote:  
(01-18-2018 04:18 PM)salukiblue Wrote:  
(01-18-2018 01:39 PM)Tiger87 Wrote:  
(01-17-2018 08:10 PM)salukiblue Wrote:  
(01-17-2018 04:32 PM)Tiger87 Wrote:  Lock-in the rankings at the start of the season, and you take out the changing lines. That is technically where everyone would have them when we made our estimates. Based on that, I think we're 2 games ahead of Sagarin.

Temple for sure. UConn, maybe. But at the beginning of the season, it was a little different. They are down two players expected at the beginning and were w/o Larrier also last night.

That's why the current lines are a little better in that it takes into consideration all that is current, including gameplay and personnel (even though the Larrier dnp wasn't in the line).

The overarching point is that even most reasonable folks (and Vegas, Sagarin, etc..) would have Memphis favored to have won at least 11 games so far, and likely 12 if UConn is properly included. Obviously Temple is the one game we all can agree that Memphis won in which most didn't expect (either at the beginning of the season or on game day) for Memphis to have won.

I thought I downloaded a set of Sagarin's preseason numbers. But there are some discrepancies, so I'm not sure. It appears though that UConn was either 56 or 62 in preseasson. At one number, we're a home favorite. At the other, we're a home dog. Either way, they have outperformed preseason expectations. One extra win is something. Two extra wins at this point is fairly significant.

Certainly not going to go that far.

The win over Temple was unexpected, BUT it's not like Temple is some juggernaut. They are 9-9.

The UConn win was a reasonable outcome in the preseason. UConn was 16-17 last year, lost a lot, and added some new pieces. And at home, it wouldn't be remarkable to win that game.

In present tense, the win was totally expected. Three of the players who started in the opening month for UConn did not play due to suspension or injury.

Did you expect it after the Cinci or UAB game?

Or Sienna, Mercer, etc?

I’m not saying this team is the greatest ever, but they sure give the greatest effort in years! Not sure what clicked, but they are way outperforming my expectations of THIS team.

It think it fits your narrative for that to be the case.

I will say they are the most hustling, scrappy mf'ers I have seen wear Tigers uniforms ever. Tubby has them doing every little thing necessary to stay in games--drawing charges, flopping on contact to draw fouls, getting loose balls and offensive rebounds.

That is a credit.

However, the idea they are "overachieving" is just goofy. They have played 19 games and basically are one game ahead because Temple couldn't hold a 4 point lead with a minute to go and make foul shots.

Beating Tulane, Tulsa, and a depleted UConn team at home is totally expected. And just because Memphis barely beat some bobo's early in the year doesn't mean the team should be judged by how they were in November, just like how pretty much 95% of all teams shouldn't be judged by their performances in November--good or bad.
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(01-17-2018 11:03 AM)Tigx Wrote:  
(01-17-2018 10:47 AM)memtiger1987 Wrote:  This is too funny....

He actually gave himself a hashtag based on his avatar name - #saloogied - and somehow doesn't see how strange that is.

Maybe time for him to step away from the keyboard for a while?

Actually, it was brother bluto's gang that gave him that hash tag.

He would come over here and own someone with stats.

Then the guys on bluto's board would say such and such got #saloogied .

FTR bluto hates stats, kenpom, and smart people especially lawyers.

And people from Florida with 50,000 plus posts.

To each their own I guess.
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(01-18-2018 05:03 PM)salukiblue Wrote:  
(01-18-2018 04:56 PM)memtiger1987 Wrote:  
(01-18-2018 04:18 PM)salukiblue Wrote:  
(01-18-2018 01:39 PM)Tiger87 Wrote:  
(01-17-2018 08:10 PM)salukiblue Wrote:  Temple for sure. UConn, maybe. But at the beginning of the season, it was a little different. They are down two players expected at the beginning and were w/o Larrier also last night.

That's why the current lines are a little better in that it takes into consideration all that is current, including gameplay and personnel (even though the Larrier dnp wasn't in the line).

The overarching point is that even most reasonable folks (and Vegas, Sagarin, etc..) would have Memphis favored to have won at least 11 games so far, and likely 12 if UConn is properly included. Obviously Temple is the one game we all can agree that Memphis won in which most didn't expect (either at the beginning of the season or on game day) for Memphis to have won.

I thought I downloaded a set of Sagarin's preseason numbers. But there are some discrepancies, so I'm not sure. It appears though that UConn was either 56 or 62 in preseasson. At one number, we're a home favorite. At the other, we're a home dog. Either way, they have outperformed preseason expectations. One extra win is something. Two extra wins at this point is fairly significant.

Certainly not going to go that far.

The win over Temple was unexpected, BUT it's not like Temple is some juggernaut. They are 9-9.

The UConn win was a reasonable outcome in the preseason. UConn was 16-17 last year, lost a lot, and added some new pieces. And at home, it wouldn't be remarkable to win that game.

In present tense, the win was totally expected. Three of the players who started in the opening month for UConn did not play due to suspension or injury.

Did you expect it after the Cinci or UAB game?

Or Sienna, Mercer, etc?

I’m not saying this team is the greatest ever, but they sure give the greatest effort in years! Not sure what clicked, but they are way outperforming my expectations of THIS team.

It think it fits your narrative for that to be the case.

I will say they are the most hustling, scrappy mf'ers I have seen wear Tigers uniforms ever. Tubby has them doing every little thing necessary to stay in games--drawing charges, flopping on contact to draw fouls, getting loose balls and offensive rebounds.

That is a credit.

However, the idea they are "overachieving" is just goofy. They have played 19 games and basically are one game ahead because Temple couldn't hold a 4 point lead with a minute to go and make foul shots.

Beating Tulane, Tulsa, and a depleted UConn team at home is totally expected. And just because Memphis barely beat some bobo's early in the year doesn't mean the team should be judged by how they were in November, just like how pretty much 95% of all teams shouldn't be judged by their performances in November--good or bad.

So, you’re telling me you thought they’d win 4 straight after the Cinci game? Really?

While you scoff at the likes of teams like Tulane, remember they beat SMU and Houston. And I don’t need to tell you what SMU has done to us lately. And Temple (9-9) has some awesome wins (and some crazy losses).

They are scrappy as hell. If we were 6-13, I’d still appreciate their effort. Three years of D1 experience on this team. It’s ******* amazing they’ve done this well.
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(01-18-2018 05:09 PM)jamammy Wrote:  
(01-17-2018 11:03 AM)Tigx Wrote:  
(01-17-2018 10:47 AM)memtiger1987 Wrote:  This is too funny....

He actually gave himself a hashtag based on his avatar name - #saloogied - and somehow doesn't see how strange that is.

Maybe time for him to step away from the keyboard for a while?

Actually, it was brother bluto's gang that gave him that hash tag.

He would come over here and own someone with stats.

Then the guys on bluto's board would say such and such got #saloogied .

FTR bluto hates stats, kenpom, and smart people especially lawyers.

And people from Florida with 50,000 plus posts.

To each their own I guess.

For a long time I thought you guys were joking about Bluto having a board. I know now that he really has one. Guess my invite got lost in the mail.
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