Just sayin’. Franklin Road Academy.

Should have used the search firm. Maybe they could have sniffed that out.

Easterwood was saying to hire him when he was at VCU

Wade fits very well the profile of a coach we should have hired.

We should have looked 140 miles west and hired Beard. He's 11-1 this year at TT, with 2 wins over ranked opponents and makes 1/3 (about 1 million per) of what Tub is making here.

But no, by some miracle we got out of the moronic Opie contract and immediately got into an even worse one....when we could have had Beard for 1 million per year.

If we ever get rid of Tub, I hope different people are in charge of selecting his replacement.

(12-29-2017 09:49 AM)chrisd11 Wrote:  We should have looked 140 miles west and hired Beard. He's 11-1 this year at TT, with 2 wins over ranked opponents and makes 1/3 (about 1 million per) of what Tub is making here.

But no, by some miracle we got out of the moronic Opie contract and immediately got into an even worse one....when we could have had Beard for 1 million per year.

If we ever get rid of Tub, I hope different people are in charge of selecting his replacement.

That's who I was thinking of at the time. I guess they wanted more experience.

(12-29-2017 07:55 AM)TG4 Wrote:  Just sayin’. Franklin Road Academy.

Hard pass

cool story

(12-29-2017 09:49 AM)chrisd11 Wrote:  We should have looked 140 miles west and hired Beard. He's 11-1 this year at TT, with 2 wins over ranked opponents and makes 1/3 (about 1 million per) of what Tub is making here.

But no, by some miracle we got out of the moronic Opie contract and immediately got into an even worse one....when we could have had Beard for 1 million per year.

If we ever get rid of Tub, I hope different people are in charge of selecting his replacement.

Tubby's contract isn't brought up enough...

We b*****d about Pastners contract non-stop and by the grace of god GT saved our butts! You'd think we'd learn from that mistake.

Makes me question the intelligence of our AD and/or prominent basketball boosters. What's their explanation???

(12-29-2017 10:57 AM)HometownTiger Wrote:  

(12-29-2017 09:49 AM)chrisd11 Wrote:  We should have looked 140 miles west and hired Beard. He's 11-1 this year at TT, with 2 wins over ranked opponents and makes 1/3 (about 1 million per) of what Tub is making here.

But no, by some miracle we got out of the moronic Opie contract and immediately got into an even worse one....when we could have had Beard for 1 million per year.

If we ever get rid of Tub, I hope different people are in charge of selecting his replacement.

Tubby's contract isn't brought up enough...

We b*****d about Pastners contract non-stop and by the grace of god GT saved our butts! You'd think we'd learn from that mistake.

Makes me question the intelligence of our AD and/or prominent basketball boosters. What's their explanation???

Specifically, what about the contract are you questioning? Amount? Length? Buyout?

(12-29-2017 11:47 AM)Tiger87 Wrote:  

(12-29-2017 10:57 AM)HometownTiger Wrote:  

(12-29-2017 09:49 AM)chrisd11 Wrote:  We should have looked 140 miles west and hired Beard. He's 11-1 this year at TT, with 2 wins over ranked opponents and makes 1/3 (about 1 million per) of what Tub is making here.

But no, by some miracle we got out of the moronic Opie contract and immediately got into an even worse one....when we could have had Beard for 1 million per year.

If we ever get rid of Tub, I hope different people are in charge of selecting his replacement.

Tubby's contract isn't brought up enough...

We b*****d about Pastners contract non-stop and by the grace of god GT saved our butts! You'd think we'd learn from that mistake.

Makes me question the intelligence of our AD and/or prominent basketball boosters. What's their explanation???

Specifically, what about the contract are you questioning? Amount? Length? Buyout?

Why we gave it to Tubby in the first place really

(12-29-2017 01:22 PM)stratecashomie Wrote:  

(12-29-2017 11:47 AM)Tiger87 Wrote:  

(12-29-2017 10:57 AM)HometownTiger Wrote:  

(12-29-2017 09:49 AM)chrisd11 Wrote:  We should have looked 140 miles west and hired Beard. He's 11-1 this year at TT, with 2 wins over ranked opponents and makes 1/3 (about 1 million per) of what Tub is making here.

But no, by some miracle we got out of the moronic Opie contract and immediately got into an even worse one....when we could have had Beard for 1 million per year.

If we ever get rid of Tub, I hope different people are in charge of selecting his replacement.

Tubby's contract isn't brought up enough...

We b*****d about Pastners contract non-stop and by the grace of god GT saved our butts! You'd think we'd learn from that mistake.

Makes me question the intelligence of our AD and/or prominent basketball boosters. What's their explanation???

Specifically, what about the contract are you questioning? Amount? Length? Buyout?

Why we gave it to Tubby in the first place really

I don't think that's what he means. Because that is brought up every waking minute.

(12-29-2017 11:47 AM)Tiger87 Wrote:  

(12-29-2017 10:57 AM)HometownTiger Wrote:  

(12-29-2017 09:49 AM)chrisd11 Wrote:  We should have looked 140 miles west and hired Beard. He's 11-1 this year at TT, with 2 wins over ranked opponents and makes 1/3 (about 1 million per) of what Tub is making here.

But no, by some miracle we got out of the moronic Opie contract and immediately got into an even worse one....when we could have had Beard for 1 million per year.

If we ever get rid of Tub, I hope different people are in charge of selecting his replacement.

Tubby's contract isn't brought up enough...

We b*****d about Pastners contract non-stop and by the grace of god GT saved our butts! You'd think we'd learn from that mistake.

Makes me question the intelligence of our AD and/or prominent basketball boosters. What's their explanation???

Specifically, what about the contract are you questioning? Amount? Length? Buyout?

What specifically about it are you NOT questioning?

5 years, 15.45 million, and every red cent is guaranteed just like Opie's....only Tubby makes even more than Opie. This for a 65 year old who has 1 NCAA win since 2007, which is coincidentally the last season he finished above .500 in conference (and that was 9-7, at Kentucky)

So again....what about that contract do you not question?

(12-29-2017 02:15 PM)chrisd11 Wrote:  

(12-29-2017 11:47 AM)Tiger87 Wrote:  

(12-29-2017 10:57 AM)HometownTiger Wrote:  

(12-29-2017 09:49 AM)chrisd11 Wrote:  We should have looked 140 miles west and hired Beard. He's 11-1 this year at TT, with 2 wins over ranked opponents and makes 1/3 (about 1 million per) of what Tub is making here.

But no, by some miracle we got out of the moronic Opie contract and immediately got into an even worse one....when we could have had Beard for 1 million per year.

If we ever get rid of Tub, I hope different people are in charge of selecting his replacement.

Tubby's contract isn't brought up enough...

We b*****d about Pastners contract non-stop and by the grace of god GT saved our butts! You'd think we'd learn from that mistake.

Makes me question the intelligence of our AD and/or prominent basketball boosters. What's their explanation???

Specifically, what about the contract are you questioning? Amount? Length? Buyout?

What specifically about it are you NOT questioning?

5 years, 15.45 million, and every red cent is guaranteed just like Opie's....only Tubby makes even more than Opie. This for a 65 year old who has 1 NCAA win since 2007, which is coincidentally the last season he finished above .500 in conference (and that was 9-7, at Kentucky)

So again....what about that contract do you not question?

I didn't say I was "not questioning" anything. I just wanted to understand Hometown more clearly. He/she is really the only one who can answer my question. Thanks for playing though.

(12-29-2017 08:39 AM)UMTiger02 Wrote:  Easterwood was saying to hire him when he was at VCU

I also recall Easterwood saying that Will Wade would not take the job after the way we treated Pastner. I believe he said Wade thought our fan base was bat s*** crazy.

(12-29-2017 02:15 PM)chrisd11 Wrote:  

(12-29-2017 11:47 AM)Tiger87 Wrote:  

(12-29-2017 10:57 AM)HometownTiger Wrote:  

(12-29-2017 09:49 AM)chrisd11 Wrote:  We should have looked 140 miles west and hired Beard. He's 11-1 this year at TT, with 2 wins over ranked opponents and makes 1/3 (about 1 million per) of what Tub is making here.

But no, by some miracle we got out of the moronic Opie contract and immediately got into an even worse one....when we could have had Beard for 1 million per year.

If we ever get rid of Tub, I hope different people are in charge of selecting his replacement.

Tubby's contract isn't brought up enough...

We b*****d about Pastners contract non-stop and by the grace of god GT saved our butts! You'd think we'd learn from that mistake.

Makes me question the intelligence of our AD and/or prominent basketball boosters. What's their explanation???

Specifically, what about the contract are you questioning? Amount? Length? Buyout?

What specifically about it are you NOT questioning?

5 years, 15.45 million, and every red cent is guaranteed just like Opie's....only Tubby makes even more than Opie. This for a 65 year old who has 1 NCAA win since 2007, which is coincidentally the last season he finished above .500 in conference (and that was 9-7, at Kentucky)

So again....what about that contract do you not question?

One bright spot for the $$$ folk if we decided to fire CTS: the buyout can be spread by double over the remaining years of the contract. If we made a move after this season and there is 3 years left on Smith's contract, we have 6 years to pay the buyout.

So, make the move and hire someone for $1.5M/year and you have a wash as far as annual salary $ go. $1.5M for a new coach and $1.5M into Smith's buyout.

We shouldn't even be in this mess to begin with, but it is what it is.

(12-29-2017 03:35 PM)airric2255 Wrote:  

(12-29-2017 08:39 AM)UMTiger02 Wrote:  Easterwood was saying to hire him when he was at VCU

I also recall Easterwood saying that Will Wade would not take the job after the way we treated Pastner. I believe he said Wade thought our fan base was bat s*** crazy.

Yeah that’s it. Our fanbase is crazy and awful. And all the other schools in the country have sound thinking, responsible, and super awesome fans.

(12-29-2017 03:38 PM)airric2255 Wrote:  

(12-29-2017 02:15 PM)chrisd11 Wrote:  

(12-29-2017 11:47 AM)Tiger87 Wrote:  

(12-29-2017 10:57 AM)HometownTiger Wrote:  

(12-29-2017 09:49 AM)chrisd11 Wrote:  We should have looked 140 miles west and hired Beard. He's 11-1 this year at TT, with 2 wins over ranked opponents and makes 1/3 (about 1 million per) of what Tub is making here.

But no, by some miracle we got out of the moronic Opie contract and immediately got into an even worse one....when we could have had Beard for 1 million per year.

If we ever get rid of Tub, I hope different people are in charge of selecting his replacement.

Tubby's contract isn't brought up enough...

We b*****d about Pastners contract non-stop and by the grace of god GT saved our butts! You'd think we'd learn from that mistake.

Makes me question the intelligence of our AD and/or prominent basketball boosters. What's their explanation???

Specifically, what about the contract are you questioning? Amount? Length? Buyout?

What specifically about it are you NOT questioning?

5 years, 15.45 million, and every red cent is guaranteed just like Opie's....only Tubby makes even more than Opie. This for a 65 year old who has 1 NCAA win since 2007, which is coincidentally the last season he finished above .500 in conference (and that was 9-7, at Kentucky)

So again....what about that contract do you not question?

One bright spot for the $$$ folk if we decided to fire CTS: the buyout can be spread by double over the remaining years of the contract. If we made a move after this season and there is 3 years left on Smith's contract, we have 6 years to pay the buyout.

So, make the move and hire someone for $1.5M/year and you have a wash as far as annual salary $ go. $1.5M for a new coach and $1.5M into Smith's buyout.

We shouldn't even be in this mess to begin with, but it is what it is.

I think at this point we have no choice, sort of speak, but to hire Penny. I think Penny wants the job and if you hire someone other than Penny, he gets passed over a second time and you alienate him and I don’t see him wanting to feed some other coach players when he himself wants the job. In my opinion we have to hire Penny.

(12-29-2017 03:54 PM)Joe1 Wrote:  

(12-29-2017 03:38 PM)airric2255 Wrote:  

(12-29-2017 02:15 PM)chrisd11 Wrote:  

(12-29-2017 11:47 AM)Tiger87 Wrote:  

(12-29-2017 10:57 AM)HometownTiger Wrote:  Tubby's contract isn't brought up enough...

We b*****d about Pastners contract non-stop and by the grace of god GT saved our butts! You'd think we'd learn from that mistake.

Makes me question the intelligence of our AD and/or prominent basketball boosters. What's their explanation???

Specifically, what about the contract are you questioning? Amount? Length? Buyout?

What specifically about it are you NOT questioning?

5 years, 15.45 million, and every red cent is guaranteed just like Opie's....only Tubby makes even more than Opie. This for a 65 year old who has 1 NCAA win since 2007, which is coincidentally the last season he finished above .500 in conference (and that was 9-7, at Kentucky)

So again....what about that contract do you not question?

One bright spot for the $$$ folk if we decided to fire CTS: the buyout can be spread by double over the remaining years of the contract. If we made a move after this season and there is 3 years left on Smith's contract, we have 6 years to pay the buyout.

So, make the move and hire someone for $1.5M/year and you have a wash as far as annual salary $ go. $1.5M for a new coach and $1.5M into Smith's buyout.

We shouldn't even be in this mess to begin with, but it is what it is.

I think at this point we have no choice, sort of speak, but to hire Penny. I think Penny wants the job and if you hire someone other than Penny, he gets passed over a second time and you alienate him and I don’t see him wanting to feed some other coach players when he himself wants the job. In my opinion we have to hire Penny.

I feel like in a way that is part of the problem now. He isn't going to try to push his players to go to Memphis when he wants the job. Not actually steering them away from Memphis, but not giving them a lot of incentive to go.

(12-29-2017 04:49 PM)memtigbb Wrote:  

(12-29-2017 03:54 PM)Joe1 Wrote:  

(12-29-2017 03:38 PM)airric2255 Wrote:  

(12-29-2017 02:15 PM)chrisd11 Wrote:  

(12-29-2017 11:47 AM)Tiger87 Wrote:  Specifically, what about the contract are you questioning? Amount? Length? Buyout?

What specifically about it are you NOT questioning?

5 years, 15.45 million, and every red cent is guaranteed just like Opie's....only Tubby makes even more than Opie. This for a 65 year old who has 1 NCAA win since 2007, which is coincidentally the last season he finished above .500 in conference (and that was 9-7, at Kentucky)

So again....what about that contract do you not question?

One bright spot for the $$$ folk if we decided to fire CTS: the buyout can be spread by double over the remaining years of the contract. If we made a move after this season and there is 3 years left on Smith's contract, we have 6 years to pay the buyout.

So, make the move and hire someone for $1.5M/year and you have a wash as far as annual salary $ go. $1.5M for a new coach and $1.5M into Smith's buyout.

We shouldn't even be in this mess to begin with, but it is what it is.

I think at this point we have no choice, sort of speak, but to hire Penny. I think Penny wants the job and if you hire someone other than Penny, he gets passed over a second time and you alienate him and I don’t see him wanting to feed some other coach players when he himself wants the job. In my opinion we have to hire Penny.

I feel like in a way that is part of the problem now. He isn't going to try to push his players to go to Memphis when he wants the job. Not actually steering them away from Memphis, but not giving them a lot of incentive to go.

I agree. And that’s why I believe we need to hire him. I’m hearing the players will follow Penny. Penny sort of has the advantage.