(12-21-2017 10:58 AM)fishman6581 Wrote:  

(12-20-2017 09:56 PM)Tiger87 Wrote:  

(12-20-2017 09:36 PM)fishman6581 Wrote:  He failed at Indiana because he had players running over other drunk players with cars, failing drug tests and cheating on tests with their favorite cheerleader. He really let them loose. Tried to get it under control by moving them back into the dorms. But it was over when Oladipo and Zeller couldn't get to the Final Four.
Don't see the knock on him recruiting wise. Signed several 5 star kids.

Averaged a #31 rated class. At Indiana. With a lot of homegrown talent. Signed only 1 of the last 16 blue chips in-state.

Three four stars in 2009. Oladipo in 2010. Zeller in 2011. Yogi in 2012 with two more four stars. Vonleh in 2013 with three more four stars. Blackmon in 2014 with another four star. Thomas Bryant in 2015. Then two more four stars in 2016. 7 first round picks. Recruiting wasn't his problem. Keeping them was. Players left Indiana fast. Perea, Abel, Stan Robinson, and Emmitt Holt all made the tournament last year, while Indiana went to Georgia Tech and lost in the NIT. He fell out of favor. Interestingly enough, his lead recruiter for a while was Kenny Johnson, who just got fired at Louisville.

I repeat. A #31 ranking over his 9 years. At Indiana. If he's getting a #31 at Indiana...

(12-21-2017 12:36 PM)Tiger87 Wrote:  

(12-21-2017 10:58 AM)fishman6581 Wrote:  

(12-20-2017 09:56 PM)Tiger87 Wrote:  

(12-20-2017 09:36 PM)fishman6581 Wrote:  He failed at Indiana because he had players running over other drunk players with cars, failing drug tests and cheating on tests with their favorite cheerleader. He really let them loose. Tried to get it under control by moving them back into the dorms. But it was over when Oladipo and Zeller couldn't get to the Final Four.
Don't see the knock on him recruiting wise. Signed several 5 star kids.

Averaged a #31 rated class. At Indiana. With a lot of homegrown talent. Signed only 1 of the last 16 blue chips in-state.

Three four stars in 2009. Oladipo in 2010. Zeller in 2011. Yogi in 2012 with two more four stars. Vonleh in 2013 with three more four stars. Blackmon in 2014 with another four star. Thomas Bryant in 2015. Then two more four stars in 2016. 7 first round picks. Recruiting wasn't his problem. Keeping them was. Players left Indiana fast. Perea, Abel, Stan Robinson, and Emmitt Holt all made the tournament last year, while Indiana went to Georgia Tech and lost in the NIT. He fell out of favor. Interestingly enough, his lead recruiter for a while was Kenny Johnson, who just got fired at Louisville.

I repeat. A #31 ranking over his 9 years. At Indiana. If he's getting a #31 at Indiana...

Don't think that number tells the full story. Got the stud top 15 player he wanted, and got 3-4 year guys to supplement him. Not sure what you're trying to make #31 mean.