(12-21-2017 03:39 PM)CornellCoog Wrote:  1) The Liberty Bowl was never going to pick South Florida over Memphis. Memphis guarantees 40,000+ to that game. That's a no brainer

No kidding....and you just made my point. Much like USF nearly sold out the hometown St Pete Bowl with over 21,000 in attendance against Memphis in 2008.

Quote:2) USF had a bigger allotment because the AAC is affiliated with the bowl. Texas Tech is filling in for the SEC so I am sure they were able to negotiate a smaller allotment

That may be the official reason, but that is crap and makes no sense. Both teams should have been on the hook for moving their inventory of crap tickets.

(12-21-2017 03:59 PM)CyberBull Wrote:  

(12-21-2017 03:39 PM)CornellCoog Wrote:  1) The Liberty Bowl was never going to pick South Florida over Memphis. Memphis guarantees 40,000+ to that game. That's a no brainer

No kidding....and you just made my point. Much like USF nearly sold out the hometown St Pete Bowl with over 21,000 in attendance against Memphis in 2008.

Quote:2) USF had a bigger allotment because the AAC is affiliated with the bowl. Texas Tech is filling in for the SEC so I am sure they were able to negotiate a smaller allotment

That may be the official reason, but that is crap and makes no sense. Both teams should have been on the hook for moving their inventory of crap tickets.

Which was the 3rd highest attended bowl in the history of the St. Petersburg bowl game - just behind two times UCF has been there....I'll give you credit that it actually was over 25k though.

(12-20-2017 07:21 PM)billybobby777 Wrote:  

(12-20-2017 01:51 PM)voss749 Wrote:  USF could have played 10-3 FAU in the boca bowl and that would have been a sellout game in primetime.

You think FAU could have provided enough fans to get a sellout? I don't know...95% of the fans coming from one fanbase is pretty incredible

We did pretty well for Boca Bowl playing a MAC team noone outside of Ohio knows about.

(12-21-2017 08:17 AM)KnightLight Wrote:  

(12-20-2017 01:51 PM)voss749 Wrote:  USF could have played 10-3 FAU in the boca bowl and that would have been a sellout game in primetime.

FAU could barely fill half of their own small home stadium for their "home" bowl game even with a flood of free tickets hitting the market...and since usf fans don't even show up for most of their home games...no way would that game sellout.

You want to see a sellout at FAU? Just wait till UCF Fans help "sellout" your small stadium come this Sept. (Game should be maybe one of the more interesting games of the season...as it could end up being a 59-58 type of game).

a) Were not playing UCF in Boca until 2019
b) We were playing Akron in a pre-christmas bowl game and still had a good turnout

In USF's defense?... This bowl game is pretty awful. Ive been to dozens of bowl games over the last 40 years and this one still is the worst in my book. It was years ago..but..the city did zero for the fan experience...the stadium was in horrible disrepair, you could not even buy a slice of Pizza at what was the PapaJohns bowl and ECU got manhandled by guess who? USF. It was a terrible experience and I vowed NEVER to set foot back in that stadium again.

The Boca announced 24,000+ for the FAU-Akron bowl but that number was getting ripped on twitter. Maybe 15,000 there.

(12-21-2017 05:42 PM)Fo Shizzle Wrote:  In USF's defense?... This bowl game is pretty awful. Ive been to dozens of bowl games over the last 40 years and this one still is the worst in my book. It was years ago..but..the city did zero for the fan experience...the stadium was in horrible disrepair, you could not even buy a slice of Pizza at what was the PapaJohns bowl and ECU got manhandled by guess who? USF. It was a terrible experience and I vowed NEVER to set foot back in that stadium again.

Agree on the experience for the inaugural Papa John's Bowl.

People around the city seemingly had no idea that there was a bowl game and Dreamland BBQ ran out of ribs the first night we were there. The game itself was a blast although it was odd that only one side of the stadium was filled between the 20s.

(12-21-2017 11:25 AM)Huskypride Wrote:  

(12-21-2017 08:50 AM)quo vadis Wrote:  

(12-19-2017 01:05 PM)pesik Wrote:  

(12-19-2017 12:29 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  

(12-19-2017 12:17 PM)pesik Wrote:  no offense you are alone, (okay maybe include tulsa).. whos attendance would be this bad on consecutive years of top 25 success

every rebuttal point ive seen are "first year" of success attendance...or uconn whos success was a surprise to everyone..literally zero people till the second to last game of the regular season thought uconn would get the bcs bowl...everyone thought wvu would get it..uconn was 8-5 with losses to mac temple and 1-9 Rutgers

ive said this a million times, spontaneous success doesn't equate to immediate attendance difference

Two things here don't add up:

First, the "rebuttals" don't make sense, because in 2010, UConn was not coming off a bad year. In fact, 2010 was their fourth straight winning year, and the previous two years, in 2008 and 2009, they won bowl games. So in no way shape or form was 2010 some kind of "surprise" year where fans didn't show because they expected another losing year. And yet our attendance was better, and by a lot, anyway.

And if there is a one-year lag between results and attendance, it should work both ways, and in 2011, the year after UConn made the Fiesta Bowl, USF had better attendance as well.

Second, the only valid, apples to apples comparison to make is the official NCAA attendance or actual attendance, for BOTH schools. So stop making bogus comparisons that compare what a USF beat writer reports as the 'actual' attendance with UConn or anyone else's official attendance. The only valid way you can invoke our 'actual' attendance is if you are comparing that to another school's 'actual' attendance as well. This is so elementary it shouldn't need to be explained, but dummies and trolls around here keep insisting that it's reasonable to compare our 'actual' attendance with other school's official attendance. They say stupid things like "You know we can't make actual to actual comparison because (fill in name of school) doesn't report it's actual attendance !!!"

As if that makes it OK to just go ahead and compare their official attendance with USF actual attendance (hint: it doesn't).

A comparison has to be either official to official, or actual to actual. Cross-comparisons are obviously invalid, so stop making them.

Sheesh!

are you comparing uconns 5th place finish in a 8 team league (3-4 conference record) in 2009 to usf top 25 finish last year? ...neither uconn year undefeated, neither year even cracked top 25 or close...

That's not the valid comparison. The comparison is UConn 2009 to USF 2009. In 2010 UConn was coming off an 8-5 bowl-winning 2009 just like USF was, yet USF had better attendance in 2010.

It doesn't matter that UConn wasn't 11-1 the previous year and ranked #15. By 2009 they clearly had established a winning program, so there was no excuse of a "bad lag" effect from previous year's losing.

Does USF have an attendance problem today? Absolutely. But, so do other AAC schools, but we get hammered with the attendance issue all the time and nobody else does.

That's what we object to.

The difference is ur winning and aren't right now. If us UConn fans thought we had a shot at a ny6 bowl or a playoff spot our stadium would be sold out every night


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UCONN....really?

The Huskies only sold 2,771 out of an allotment of 17,500 tickets to the 2011 Fiesta Bowl. Even my much much belegaured Bulls would travel better to that game as we sold over 5K tickets for the Sun Bowl in El Paso in 2007, which is much harder and expensive to fly into than Phoenix.

Truth: http://www.ctpost.com/news/article/Repor...038914.php

Here is the bottom line folks: AAC bowl lineup is terrible. There are only going to be a couple situations where our teams are going to have robust ticket sales.

1. Hometown Bowl - if a bowl game is being played in your "hometown" you are likely going to see great ticket sales. See St Pete Bowl for USF/UCF and Liberty Bowl for Memphis. However, staying home for a bowl game is not much of a reward.

2. East Coast NYD Bowl: for our Southern Based teams NYD games in Atlanta , New Orleans or Miami will likely draw very well and see our teams sell out their allotments. Especially with a good opponent as UCF ahs drawn. West Coast NYD games....not so much. See UCONN in 2011 and UCF didn't sell out their allotment against Baylor.

3. Bowl games with a compelling regional matchup: I guarantee if USF was playing UF or FSU in a bowl game we would see much better ticket sales and enthusiasm. Ditto for Memphis getting a shot against Tenn for a bowl game not located in their home town or any of the Texas based teams getting to face off against UT or TAMU or ECU vs UNC, Cincy vs OhioState, etc... However, if the schools mentioned above are playing in these types of bowls its likely that they are having a down year and they DO NOT want to face the prospect of playing their 'G5 little brother'. In the days leading up to bowl selection day, it was rumored locally that FSU did NOT want any scenario that would pit them against USF, with a chance to get embarrassed on national TV.

Instead of bashing each other attendance, our time would be better served bashing the bowl game system that forces our schools to lose money on terrible pairings. Say what you will about USF's lack of enthusiasm....and our players deserve better....but it was criminal to send USF back to Birmingham two years in a row. of course the AAC had no real options and why our AD was so pissed off on 'selection' sunday. You should have a better fate if you only lose two games and your team is in the Top 30 in offense and defense.

(12-21-2017 06:21 PM)CyberBull Wrote:  

(12-21-2017 11:25 AM)Huskypride Wrote:  

(12-21-2017 08:50 AM)quo vadis Wrote:  

(12-19-2017 01:05 PM)pesik Wrote:  

(12-19-2017 12:29 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  Two things here don't add up:

First, the "rebuttals" don't make sense, because in 2010, UConn was not coming off a bad year. In fact, 2010 was their fourth straight winning year, and the previous two years, in 2008 and 2009, they won bowl games. So in no way shape or form was 2010 some kind of "surprise" year where fans didn't show because they expected another losing year. And yet our attendance was better, and by a lot, anyway.

And if there is a one-year lag between results and attendance, it should work both ways, and in 2011, the year after UConn made the Fiesta Bowl, USF had better attendance as well.

Second, the only valid, apples to apples comparison to make is the official NCAA attendance or actual attendance, for BOTH schools. So stop making bogus comparisons that compare what a USF beat writer reports as the 'actual' attendance with UConn or anyone else's official attendance. The only valid way you can invoke our 'actual' attendance is if you are comparing that to another school's 'actual' attendance as well. This is so elementary it shouldn't need to be explained, but dummies and trolls around here keep insisting that it's reasonable to compare our 'actual' attendance with other school's official attendance. They say stupid things like "You know we can't make actual to actual comparison because (fill in name of school) doesn't report it's actual attendance !!!"

As if that makes it OK to just go ahead and compare their official attendance with USF actual attendance (hint: it doesn't).

A comparison has to be either official to official, or actual to actual. Cross-comparisons are obviously invalid, so stop making them.

Sheesh!

are you comparing uconns 5th place finish in a 8 team league (3-4 conference record) in 2009 to usf top 25 finish last year? ...neither uconn year undefeated, neither year even cracked top 25 or close...

That's not the valid comparison. The comparison is UConn 2009 to USF 2009. In 2010 UConn was coming off an 8-5 bowl-winning 2009 just like USF was, yet USF had better attendance in 2010.

It doesn't matter that UConn wasn't 11-1 the previous year and ranked #15. By 2009 they clearly had established a winning program, so there was no excuse of a "bad lag" effect from previous year's losing.

Does USF have an attendance problem today? Absolutely. But, so do other AAC schools, but we get hammered with the attendance issue all the time and nobody else does.

That's what we object to.

The difference is ur winning and aren't right now. If us UConn fans thought we had a shot at a ny6 bowl or a playoff spot our stadium would be sold out every night


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UCONN....really?

The Huskies only sold 2,771 out of an allotment of 17,500 tickets to the 2011 Fiesta Bowl. Even my much much belegaured Bulls would travel better to that game as we sold over 5K tickets for the Sun Bowl in El Paso in 2007, which is much harder and expensive to fly into than Phoenix.

Truth: http://www.ctpost.com/news/article/Repor...038914.php

Here is the bottom line folks: AAC bowl lineup is terrible. There are only going to be a couple situations where our teams are going to have robust ticket sales.

1. Hometown Bowl - if a bowl game is being played in your "hometown" you are likely going to see great ticket sales. See St Pete Bowl for USF/UCF and Liberty Bowl for Memphis. However, staying home for a bowl game is not much of a reward.

2. East Coast NYD Bowl: for our Southern Based teams NYD games in Atlanta , New Orleans or Miami will likely draw very well and see our teams sell out their allotments. Especially with a good opponent as UCF ahs drawn. West Coast NYD games....not so much. See UCONN in 2011 and UCF didn't sell out their allotment against Baylor.

3. Bowl games with a compelling regional matchup: I guarantee if USF was playing UF or FSU in a bowl game we would see much better ticket sales and enthusiasm. Ditto for Memphis getting a shot against Tenn for a bowl game not located in their home town or any of the Texas based teams getting to face off against UT or TAMU or ECU vs UNC, Cincy vs OhioState, etc... However, if the schools mentioned above are playing in these types of bowls its likely that they are having a down year and they DO NOT want to face the prospect of playing their 'G5 little brother'. In the days leading up to bowl selection day, it was rumored locally that FSU did NOT want any scenario that would pit them against USF, with a chance to get embarrassed on national TV.

Instead of bashing each other attendance, our time would be better served bashing the bowl game system that forces our schools to lose money on terrible pairings. Say what you will about USF's lack of enthusiasm....and our players deserve better....but it was criminal to send USF back to Birmingham two years in a row. of course the AAC had no real options and why our AD was so pissed off on 'selection' sunday. You should have a better fate if you only lose two games and your team is in the Top 30 in offense and defense.

Bro i was talking about our home stadium


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(12-21-2017 07:09 PM)Huskypride Wrote:  

(12-21-2017 06:21 PM)CyberBull Wrote:  

(12-21-2017 11:25 AM)Huskypride Wrote:  

(12-21-2017 08:50 AM)quo vadis Wrote:  

(12-19-2017 01:05 PM)pesik Wrote:  are you comparing uconns 5th place finish in a 8 team league (3-4 conference record) in 2009 to usf top 25 finish last year? ...neither uconn year undefeated, neither year even cracked top 25 or close...

That's not the valid comparison. The comparison is UConn 2009 to USF 2009. In 2010 UConn was coming off an 8-5 bowl-winning 2009 just like USF was, yet USF had better attendance in 2010.

It doesn't matter that UConn wasn't 11-1 the previous year and ranked #15. By 2009 they clearly had established a winning program, so there was no excuse of a "bad lag" effect from previous year's losing.

Does USF have an attendance problem today? Absolutely. But, so do other AAC schools, but we get hammered with the attendance issue all the time and nobody else does.

That's what we object to.

The difference is ur winning and aren't right now. If us UConn fans thought we had a shot at a ny6 bowl or a playoff spot our stadium would be sold out every night


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UCONN....really?

The Huskies only sold 2,771 out of an allotment of 17,500 tickets to the 2011 Fiesta Bowl. Even my much much belegaured Bulls would travel better to that game as we sold over 5K tickets for the Sun Bowl in El Paso in 2007, which is much harder and expensive to fly into than Phoenix.

Truth: http://www.ctpost.com/news/article/Repor...038914.php

Here is the bottom line folks: AAC bowl lineup is terrible. There are only going to be a couple situations where our teams are going to have robust ticket sales.

1. Hometown Bowl - if a bowl game is being played in your "hometown" you are likely going to see great ticket sales. See St Pete Bowl for USF/UCF and Liberty Bowl for Memphis. However, staying home for a bowl game is not much of a reward.

2. East Coast NYD Bowl: for our Southern Based teams NYD games in Atlanta , New Orleans or Miami will likely draw very well and see our teams sell out their allotments. Especially with a good opponent as UCF ahs drawn. West Coast NYD games....not so much. See UCONN in 2011 and UCF didn't sell out their allotment against Baylor.

3. Bowl games with a compelling regional matchup: I guarantee if USF was playing UF or FSU in a bowl game we would see much better ticket sales and enthusiasm. Ditto for Memphis getting a shot against Tenn for a bowl game not located in their home town or any of the Texas based teams getting to face off against UT or TAMU or ECU vs UNC, Cincy vs OhioState, etc... However, if the schools mentioned above are playing in these types of bowls its likely that they are having a down year and they DO NOT want to face the prospect of playing their 'G5 little brother'. In the days leading up to bowl selection day, it was rumored locally that FSU did NOT want any scenario that would pit them against USF, with a chance to get embarrassed on national TV.

Instead of bashing each other attendance, our time would be better served bashing the bowl game system that forces our schools to lose money on terrible pairings. Say what you will about USF's lack of enthusiasm....and our players deserve better....but it was criminal to send USF back to Birmingham two years in a row. of course the AAC had no real options and why our AD was so pissed off on 'selection' sunday. You should have a better fate if you only lose two games and your team is in the Top 30 in offense and defense.

Bro i was talking about our home stadium


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You mean we don't play BCS/Access Bowls every night?!?!?!

(12-21-2017 12:22 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  

(12-21-2017 12:07 PM)Square Knight Wrote:  

(12-18-2017 03:34 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  

(12-18-2017 03:21 PM)TigerSeth Wrote:  https://www.saturdaydownsouth.com/sec-fo...l-tickets/

I'm glad. Maybe this will teach Aresco that USF has had its fill of the Birmingham Bowl.

No team should ever have to go to that bowl more than once a decade, yet we get stuck with it in back to back years.

Good example of an informal boycott.

News Flash! Aresco doesn't "assign" teams to bowls. The conference coordinates with each bowl eligible team to try and fill the team's preferences while creating the best match ups.

For example, before it became obvious that UCF had a good chance at the G5 NY6 bowl slot, AD Danny White talked about how the conference assigns bowls and stated that UCF would work with the conference to hopefully face a "power conference" team.

My bet is that your AD and coach expressed the same preference...to face a power conference team rather than be assigned to a bowl against a MAC/CUSA/Sun Belt team.

New Flash! Aresco is "the conference", and the conference has more to say about who goes to what bowl than any particular school does, it has to be that way because the conference is responsible for coordinating the entire bowl schedule.

But to the extent USF admins had input, i seriously doubt a return trip to Birmingham was on our wish list. The Liberty and Military Bowls were surely preferred, but if they really did favor the Birmingham Bowl, then our fan base taught our administrators a lesson as well.

At worst, we were the co-second best team in the AAC, but we got treated like the fourth-place team, behind UCF (obviously)/Memphis/Navy.

USF was third in the AAC pecking order. Obviously the right decision was made to give Memphis the Liberty Bowl. The only other option the AAC had for USF and Navy was to swap the two.

If they did that Navy fans would have a 12 hour road trip to Birmingham instead of a "home" game...and USF fans would have a 14 hour road trip to Annapolis instead of a 9 hour trip to Birmingham. It is not unreasonable for the conference to think that attendance would be better for both games with USF in Birmingham and Navy in Indianapolis.

The one thing we can agree on with attendance is that ALL AAC teams (including UCF) need better home attendance. I also think the top 3-4 AAC bowl teams need bowl attendance of at least 5,000 - 7,000 for any bowl within a 9 hour drive. That is how you make networks and conferences sit up and take notice.

(12-21-2017 11:25 AM)Huskypride Wrote:  

(12-21-2017 08:50 AM)quo vadis Wrote:  

(12-19-2017 01:05 PM)pesik Wrote:  

(12-19-2017 12:29 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  

(12-19-2017 12:17 PM)pesik Wrote:  no offense you are alone, (okay maybe include tulsa).. whos attendance would be this bad on consecutive years of top 25 success

every rebuttal point ive seen are "first year" of success attendance...or uconn whos success was a surprise to everyone..literally zero people till the second to last game of the regular season thought uconn would get the bcs bowl...everyone thought wvu would get it..uconn was 8-5 with losses to mac temple and 1-9 Rutgers

ive said this a million times, spontaneous success doesn't equate to immediate attendance difference

Two things here don't add up:

First, the "rebuttals" don't make sense, because in 2010, UConn was not coming off a bad year. In fact, 2010 was their fourth straight winning year, and the previous two years, in 2008 and 2009, they won bowl games. So in no way shape or form was 2010 some kind of "surprise" year where fans didn't show because they expected another losing year. And yet our attendance was better, and by a lot, anyway.

And if there is a one-year lag between results and attendance, it should work both ways, and in 2011, the year after UConn made the Fiesta Bowl, USF had better attendance as well.

Second, the only valid, apples to apples comparison to make is the official NCAA attendance or actual attendance, for BOTH schools. So stop making bogus comparisons that compare what a USF beat writer reports as the 'actual' attendance with UConn or anyone else's official attendance. The only valid way you can invoke our 'actual' attendance is if you are comparing that to another school's 'actual' attendance as well. This is so elementary it shouldn't need to be explained, but dummies and trolls around here keep insisting that it's reasonable to compare our 'actual' attendance with other school's official attendance. They say stupid things like "You know we can't make actual to actual comparison because (fill in name of school) doesn't report it's actual attendance !!!"

As if that makes it OK to just go ahead and compare their official attendance with USF actual attendance (hint: it doesn't).

A comparison has to be either official to official, or actual to actual. Cross-comparisons are obviously invalid, so stop making them.

Sheesh!

are you comparing uconns 5th place finish in a 8 team league (3-4 conference record) in 2009 to usf top 25 finish last year? ...neither uconn year undefeated, neither year even cracked top 25 or close...

That's not the valid comparison. The comparison is UConn 2009 to USF 2009. In 2010 UConn was coming off an 8-5 bowl-winning 2009 just like USF was, yet USF had better attendance in 2010.

It doesn't matter that UConn wasn't 11-1 the previous year and ranked #15. By 2009 they clearly had established a winning program, so there was no excuse of a "bad lag" effect from previous year's losing.

Does USF have an attendance problem today? Absolutely. But, so do other AAC schools, but we get hammered with the attendance issue all the time and nobody else does.

That's what we object to.

The difference is ur winning and aren't right now. If us UConn fans thought we had a shot at a ny6 bowl or a playoff spot our stadium would be sold out every night


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Hahahahaha.....and New Mexico St could say the exact same thing

(12-21-2017 08:34 PM)billybobby777 Wrote:  

(12-21-2017 11:25 AM)Huskypride Wrote:  

(12-21-2017 08:50 AM)quo vadis Wrote:  

(12-19-2017 01:05 PM)pesik Wrote:  

(12-19-2017 12:29 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  Two things here don't add up:

First, the "rebuttals" don't make sense, because in 2010, UConn was not coming off a bad year. In fact, 2010 was their fourth straight winning year, and the previous two years, in 2008 and 2009, they won bowl games. So in no way shape or form was 2010 some kind of "surprise" year where fans didn't show because they expected another losing year. And yet our attendance was better, and by a lot, anyway.

And if there is a one-year lag between results and attendance, it should work both ways, and in 2011, the year after UConn made the Fiesta Bowl, USF had better attendance as well.

Second, the only valid, apples to apples comparison to make is the official NCAA attendance or actual attendance, for BOTH schools. So stop making bogus comparisons that compare what a USF beat writer reports as the 'actual' attendance with UConn or anyone else's official attendance. The only valid way you can invoke our 'actual' attendance is if you are comparing that to another school's 'actual' attendance as well. This is so elementary it shouldn't need to be explained, but dummies and trolls around here keep insisting that it's reasonable to compare our 'actual' attendance with other school's official attendance. They say stupid things like "You know we can't make actual to actual comparison because (fill in name of school) doesn't report it's actual attendance !!!"

As if that makes it OK to just go ahead and compare their official attendance with USF actual attendance (hint: it doesn't).

A comparison has to be either official to official, or actual to actual. Cross-comparisons are obviously invalid, so stop making them.

Sheesh!

are you comparing uconns 5th place finish in a 8 team league (3-4 conference record) in 2009 to usf top 25 finish last year? ...neither uconn year undefeated, neither year even cracked top 25 or close...

That's not the valid comparison. The comparison is UConn 2009 to USF 2009. In 2010 UConn was coming off an 8-5 bowl-winning 2009 just like USF was, yet USF had better attendance in 2010.

It doesn't matter that UConn wasn't 11-1 the previous year and ranked #15. By 2009 they clearly had established a winning program, so there was no excuse of a "bad lag" effect from previous year's losing.

Does USF have an attendance problem today? Absolutely. But, so do other AAC schools, but we get hammered with the attendance issue all the time and nobody else does.

That's what we object to.

The difference is ur winning and aren't right now. If us UConn fans thought we had a shot at a ny6 bowl or a playoff spot our stadium would be sold out every night


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Hahahahaha.....and New Mexico St could say the exact same thing

Except UCONN has proof of selling out a 40K stadium with 8-9 win seasons. Can New Mexico State say the same?

(12-21-2017 08:36 PM)HuskyU Wrote:  

(12-21-2017 08:34 PM)billybobby777 Wrote:  

(12-21-2017 11:25 AM)Huskypride Wrote:  

(12-21-2017 08:50 AM)quo vadis Wrote:  

(12-19-2017 01:05 PM)pesik Wrote:  are you comparing uconns 5th place finish in a 8 team league (3-4 conference record) in 2009 to usf top 25 finish last year? ...neither uconn year undefeated, neither year even cracked top 25 or close...

That's not the valid comparison. The comparison is UConn 2009 to USF 2009. In 2010 UConn was coming off an 8-5 bowl-winning 2009 just like USF was, yet USF had better attendance in 2010.

It doesn't matter that UConn wasn't 11-1 the previous year and ranked #15. By 2009 they clearly had established a winning program, so there was no excuse of a "bad lag" effect from previous year's losing.

Does USF have an attendance problem today? Absolutely. But, so do other AAC schools, but we get hammered with the attendance issue all the time and nobody else does.

That's what we object to.

The difference is ur winning and aren't right now. If us UConn fans thought we had a shot at a ny6 bowl or a playoff spot our stadium would be sold out every night


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Hahahahaha.....and New Mexico St could say the exact same thing

Except UCONN has proof of selling out a 40K stadium with 8-9 win seasons. Can New Mexico State say the same?

Doubt it. But they once were in a conference with AZ, AZ St, NM, UTEP and Texas Tech (Border) so maybe a long time ago they did...