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Next 3 weeks will be interesting to see if team can hold onto class. MAC will be using this vs the staff big time.

(12-03-2017 04:52 PM)Wmufan715 Wrote:  Next 3 weeks will be interesting to see if team can hold onto class. MAC will be using this vs the staff big time.

Bingo. Wondering how many decommits we have before signing day.

If the recruiting class were to fall apart (I have no reason to really believe it will), then this season would be an unmitigated failure. Honestly though, a high quality class like its shaping up to be would be enough to give me hope.

(12-03-2017 04:57 PM)wmubroncopilot Wrote:  If the recruiting class were to fall apart (I have no reason to really believe it will), then this season would be an unmitigated failure. Honestly though, a high quality class like its shaping up to be would be enough to give me hope.

The only thing that worries me is that there was probably a bit of a lack of buy in from players that were there for the previous staff. Does that continue to fester especially after missing a bowl game, or do the guys coming back just need more time with Lester and the system and will be better?

The guys that look like they are coming in are talented. How well Lester and company gets them to mesh with the current roster is going to decide how well we do next year.

(12-03-2017 04:54 PM)wingsenforcer Wrote:  

(12-03-2017 04:52 PM)Wmufan715 Wrote:  Next 3 weeks will be interesting to see if team can hold onto class. MAC will be using this vs the staff big time.

Bingo. Wondering how many decommits we have before signing day.

Unless there are some P5 teams coming through with committable offers, the class will likely stay intact.

(12-03-2017 05:09 PM)Brindlee2015 Wrote:  

(12-03-2017 04:54 PM)wingsenforcer Wrote:  

(12-03-2017 04:52 PM)Wmufan715 Wrote:  Next 3 weeks will be interesting to see if team can hold onto class. MAC will be using this vs the staff big time.

Bingo. Wondering how many decommits we have before signing day.

Unless there are some P5 teams coming through with committable offers, the class will likely stay intact.

Good to hear. I think they got room for one or two more. Do you know anything about that?

Who thinks that coaches from other teams we are battling with for recruits won't be telling kids, "Coach Lester is a nice enough guy, and was a heck of a QB in his day, but the guy took a team loaded with Cotton Bowl quality returning starters, and tons of "All MAC" players, and turned them into an average at best group of non achievers". "Is that the type of progress and success you want?" "How bout you mom and dad? Do you see your son as the type of kid you will battle to stay in games, or is he a winner?"

I can't imagine that on the recruiting trail coaches won't bring up the actual irrefutable facts about our program, since it is both honest and so hampering.

(12-03-2017 05:12 PM)Stampede your face!! Wrote:  

(12-03-2017 05:09 PM)Brindlee2015 Wrote:  

(12-03-2017 04:54 PM)wingsenforcer Wrote:  

(12-03-2017 04:52 PM)Wmufan715 Wrote:  Next 3 weeks will be interesting to see if team can hold onto class. MAC will be using this vs the staff big time.

Bingo. Wondering how many decommits we have before signing day.

Unless there are some P5 teams coming through with committable offers, the class will likely stay intact.

Good to hear. I think they got room for one or two more. Do you know anything about that?

I do. But I'm not sure it's going to happen, so I can't say anything.

(12-03-2017 05:13 PM)brovol Wrote:  Who thinks that coaches from other teams we are battling with for recruits won't be telling kids, "Coach Lester is a nice enough guy, and was a heck of a QB in his day, but the guy took a team loaded with Cotton Bowl quality returning starters, and tons of "All MAC" players, and turned them into an average at best group of non achievers". "Is that the type of progress and success you want?" "How bout you mom and dad? Do you see your son as the type of kid you will battle to stay in games, or is he a winner?"

I can't imagine that on the recruiting trail coaches won't bring up the actual irrefutable facts about our program, since it is both honest and so hampering.

Most coaches will say whatever they can to convince kids, yes. This is only a problem if Lester is unable to convince them otherwise. For a close to home example, I'm sure opposing coaches were relentless in making fun of us during our 1-11 year. The staff still put together a great class.

I can't defend our results on the field this year. However, TL and staff have shown an ability to recruit and hold on to guys so far, so I'm not going to assume they'll lose a bunch of kids without evidence.

(12-03-2017 05:14 PM)Brindlee2015 Wrote:  

(12-03-2017 05:12 PM)Stampede your face!! Wrote:  

(12-03-2017 05:09 PM)Brindlee2015 Wrote:  

(12-03-2017 04:54 PM)wingsenforcer Wrote:  

(12-03-2017 04:52 PM)Wmufan715 Wrote:  Next 3 weeks will be interesting to see if team can hold onto class. MAC will be using this vs the staff big time.

Bingo. Wondering how many decommits we have before signing day.

Unless there are some P5 teams coming through with committable offers, the class will likely stay intact.

Good to hear. I think they got room for one or two more. Do you know anything about that?

I do. But I'm not sure it's going to happen, so I can't say anything.

Fair enough.

Our non-conference schedule for next year includes Syracuse, who had a losing record, but beat Final Four Clemson and powdered CMU 42-17. Tough assignment. Got to play @Michigan next and that won’t be easy. Then there’s @Georgia State who plays Western Kentucky in this years Orlando’s Cure Bowl. As far as I know, we haven’t scheduled our FCS patsy yet. From what I saw this year, 1-3 isn’t out of the question before we begin MAC play.

(12-03-2017 05:38 PM)floridabronco Wrote:  Our non-conference schedule for next year includes Syracuse, who had a losing record, but beat Final Four Clemson and powdered CMU 42-17. Tough assignment. Got to play @Michigan next and that won’t be easy. Then there’s @Georgia State who plays Western Kentucky in this years Orlando’s Cure Bowl. As far as I know, we haven’t scheduled our FCS patsy yet. From what I saw this year, 1-3 isn’t out of the question before we begin MAC play.

I'm actually already expecting 1-3 in our non conference. But we should be at least 6-2 or 7-1 in conference with all the experience we are returning.

Right guys?

(12-03-2017 05:44 PM)Stampede your face!! Wrote:  

(12-03-2017 05:38 PM)floridabronco Wrote:  Our non-conference schedule for next year includes Syracuse, who had a losing record, but beat Final Four Clemson and powdered CMU 42-17. Tough assignment. Got to play @Michigan next and that won’t be easy. Then there’s @Georgia State who plays Western Kentucky in this years Orlando’s Cure Bowl. As far as I know, we haven’t scheduled our FCS patsy yet. From what I saw this year, 1-3 isn’t out of the question before we begin MAC play.

I'm actually already expecting 1-3 in our non conference. But we should be at least 6-2 or 7-1 in conference with all the experience we are returning.

Right guys?

It’ll be an ominous sign if we lose to Georgia State.

Yes, they got a bowl at 6 wins this year, but they also lost to Idaho by 2 TDs.

(12-03-2017 06:05 PM)Motown Bronco Wrote:  

(12-03-2017 05:44 PM)Stampede your face!! Wrote:  

(12-03-2017 05:38 PM)floridabronco Wrote:  Our non-conference schedule for next year includes Syracuse, who had a losing record, but beat Final Four Clemson and powdered CMU 42-17. Tough assignment. Got to play @Michigan next and that won’t be easy. Then there’s @Georgia State who plays Western Kentucky in this years Orlando’s Cure Bowl. As far as I know, we haven’t scheduled our FCS patsy yet. From what I saw this year, 1-3 isn’t out of the question before we begin MAC play.

I'm actually already expecting 1-3 in our non conference. But we should be at least 6-2 or 7-1 in conference with all the experience we are returning.

Right guys?

It’ll be an ominous sign if we lose to Georgia State.

Yes, they got a bowl at 6 wins this year, but they also lost to Idaho by 2 TDs.

We have trouble on the road! (Flop in Statesboro, Ga two years ago)

(12-03-2017 06:57 PM)floridabronco Wrote:  

(12-03-2017 06:05 PM)Motown Bronco Wrote:  

(12-03-2017 05:44 PM)Stampede your face!! Wrote:  

(12-03-2017 05:38 PM)floridabronco Wrote:  Our non-conference schedule for next year includes Syracuse, who had a losing record, but beat Final Four Clemson and powdered CMU 42-17. Tough assignment. Got to play @Michigan next and that won’t be easy. Then there’s @Georgia State who plays Western Kentucky in this years Orlando’s Cure Bowl. As far as I know, we haven’t scheduled our FCS patsy yet. From what I saw this year, 1-3 isn’t out of the question before we begin MAC play.

I'm actually already expecting 1-3 in our non conference. But we should be at least 6-2 or 7-1 in conference with all the experience we are returning.

Right guys?

It’ll be an ominous sign if we lose to Georgia State.

Yes, they got a bowl at 6 wins this year, but they also lost to Idaho by 2 TDs.

We have trouble on the road! (Flop in Statesboro, Ga two years ago)

This year we did the flopping at home, however.

Losses to Syracuse and scUM will be understandable. But if we - at full strength and Year 2 into Lester’s system - lose at Georgia State, I’m going to be scared.

I expect us to go 2-2 next year OOC as well. Syracuse? Possible win, but I think their HC is a good one, and this next year, I think they'll be a decent team. So I wouldn't expect us to win any more than losing to a lousy @GA-State team.

I expect us this time to go 5-3 or 6-2 for Lester to prove his worth. No 4-4, even with too many injuries. You had your mulligan.

- @CMU (won't have Shane at QB; we'll be improved; revenge is very possible on the road; depends tho)
- NIU at home
- Toledo at home (should be in position to beat NIU or Toledo; do not at all expect 2 wins)
- EMU at home (sorry Emoos, not a good year for revenge; you're in our house now and your QB won't be on any masturbation posters cumming in)

- Syracuse: Winnable, but like an @Toledo game when we're not having a stand-out year amongst the rest, don't expect it
- @GA-State: They lost to a D1AA + Idaho at home, then beat a new Coastal Carolina by only 6, a 2-10 @GA-Southern rival by the skin of their teeth, and a 2-10 Texas State by 3. *WIN*
- @Ball State: They have a good QB who was injured this year, and a great RB who was too. Will be a real game this time. If their coach proves through.
- Tougher MAC East Schedule than this year: Ohio, Miami-OH, BGSU -- with 2 on the road, since we had 2 at home this year, right?

I expect 7-5 if we have a lot of injuries like this year + some bad luck. 8-4 if not.

Syracuse is the type on P5 opponent that we must beat, and have always expected to be at least with a realistic chance of beating. If we do not beat Syracuse that will be quite disappointing, as it will mean we are no better than an average G5 again. Having said that, after watching how we do things now with this staff, I would almost predict a loss right now. Premature though I guess, particularly since Lester and staff could change how they do things.

We have a very good schedule all around next year. If we have a team which will compete for a MAC championship, we will be no worse than 3-1 in our non-conference games. We need to have a gung-ho killer, take no names attitude against our opponents, and it needs to start with Lester and his staff. No more "managing" games. It doesn't work. our offense needs to be creative and keep defenses guessing. Same with the D.

Quote:Syracuse is the type on P5 opponent that we must beat, and have always expected to be at least with a realistic chance of beating.

If it's Syracuse like this year, I agree close to that. However, they did stomp the hell out of CMU @Syracuse (although close game 1st half), and CMU is 8-4. And Syracuse has a big upset on their hands, too -- against #1 Clemson... although later in the season really went downhill (injuries?).

IMO it's more a "We must be in a tough battle with them" or "NO way do they beat us by more than 14pts, even without the ball ever bouncing our way" -- that sort of thing. And yes, definitely a Winnable game.

(12-03-2017 06:05 PM)Motown Bronco Wrote:  

(12-03-2017 05:44 PM)Stampede your face!! Wrote:  

(12-03-2017 05:38 PM)floridabronco Wrote:  Our non-conference schedule for next year includes Syracuse, who had a losing record, but beat Final Four Clemson and powdered CMU 42-17. Tough assignment. Got to play @Michigan next and that won’t be easy. Then there’s @Georgia State who plays Western Kentucky in this years Orlando’s Cure Bowl. As far as I know, we haven’t scheduled our FCS patsy yet. From what I saw this year, 1-3 isn’t out of the question before we begin MAC play.

I'm actually already expecting 1-3 in our non conference. But we should be at least 6-2 or 7-1 in conference with all the experience we are returning.

Right guys?

It’ll be an ominous sign if we lose to Georgia State.

Yes, they got a bowl at 6 wins this year, but they also lost to Idaho by 2 TDs.

We have trouble on the road! (Flop in Statesboro, Ga two years ago)

(12-03-2017 08:26 PM)brovol Wrote:  Syracuse is the type on P5 opponent that we must beat, and have always expected to be at least with a realistic chance of beating. If we do not beat Syracuse that will be quite disappointing, as it will mean we are no better than an average G5 again. Having said that, after watching how we do things now with this staff, I would almost predict a loss right now. Premature though I guess, particularly since Lester and staff could change how they do things.

We have a very good schedule all around next year. If we have a team which will compete for a MAC championship, we will be no worse than 3-1 in our non-conference games. We need to have a gung-ho killer, take no names attitude against our opponents, and it needs to start with Lester and his staff. No more "managing" games. It doesn't work. our offense needs to be creative and keep defenses guessing. Same with the D.

Seemingly, Syracuse always has a serious problem with aggressive defenses. Blitz that OL, and there's a good chance to come out with a win. Sit back in zone coverage, and we will get crushed.