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RE: Which Big 10 athletic program is best if you have to win a title in 5 years
(12-15-2017 10:18 AM)Policiious Wrote:  
(12-10-2017 01:38 AM)Transic_nyc Wrote:  The Big Ten has to recruit nationally. Yes, there are certain areas that should get more focus. However, the conference will never get to the next level recruiting only locally or across the state line.

One change that could be beneficial is the early visits from high school recruits. Even then, until young recruits change their mindset about playing miles away from home it would have a limited effect.

Agreed about nationally recruiting but now that New Jersey and Maryland plus the states that adjoin them (New York, Virginia, DS Delaware) are now easier to recruit in because there are Big 10 programs nearby; getting top level talent interseted in a Big 10 program should be easier.

Recruiting in Texas should also be easier with the down falls of Texas and Texas A&M. Texas has hit rock bottom and A&M Is not far from that. NU recruits Texas hard and it has helped improve the roster

Ask Missouri what its like recruiting Texas now not in the Big 12, and that's even with an SEC team in the league. Nebraska in the B1G may get a player or two from Texas and maybe even a 4 star recruit or two but it won't be the top ranked recruits from the state. More than likely it will be someone Texas, OU, A&M, LSU, and a few others didn't recruit to hard.

If the B1G wanted access to Texas recruits they need to bring Texas & OU into the league but you need to add another Texas school and Rice isn't sufficient for the Longhorns.
12-19-2017 11:42 AM
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RE: Which Big 10 athletic program is best if you have to win a title in 5 years
(12-19-2017 11:42 AM)Win5002 Wrote:  
(12-15-2017 10:18 AM)Policiious Wrote:  
(12-10-2017 01:38 AM)Transic_nyc Wrote:  The Big Ten has to recruit nationally. Yes, there are certain areas that should get more focus. However, the conference will never get to the next level recruiting only locally or across the state line.

One change that could be beneficial is the early visits from high school recruits. Even then, until young recruits change their mindset about playing miles away from home it would have a limited effect.

Agreed about nationally recruiting but now that New Jersey and Maryland plus the states that adjoin them (New York, Virginia, DS Delaware) are now easier to recruit in because there are Big 10 programs nearby; getting top level talent interseted in a Big 10 program should be easier.

Recruiting in Texas should also be easier with the down falls of Texas and Texas A&M. Texas has hit rock bottom and A&M Is not far from that. NU recruits Texas hard and it has helped improve the roster

Ask Missouri what its like recruiting Texas now not in the Big 12, and that's even with an SEC team in the league. Nebraska in the B1G may get a player or two from Texas and maybe even a 4 star recruit or two but it won't be the top ranked recruits from the state. More than likely it will be someone Texas, OU, A&M, LSU, and a few others didn't recruit to hard.

If the B1G wanted access to Texas recruits they need to bring Texas & OU into the league but you need to add another Texas school and Rice isn't sufficient for the Longhorns.

Nebraska has definitely slipped in Texas recruiting as well. In 2018 Nebraska currently has 0 commits from Texas in 2017 they had 3 from Texas.

Just picking a few years from Big 12 days. 2008 they had 9 from Texas, 2009 they had 8 from Texas.
12-19-2017 01:35 PM
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RE: Which Big 10 athletic program is best if you have to win a title in 5 years
(12-19-2017 01:35 PM)tcufrog86 Wrote:  
(12-19-2017 11:42 AM)Win5002 Wrote:  
(12-15-2017 10:18 AM)Policiious Wrote:  
(12-10-2017 01:38 AM)Transic_nyc Wrote:  The Big Ten has to recruit nationally. Yes, there are certain areas that should get more focus. However, the conference will never get to the next level recruiting only locally or across the state line.

One change that could be beneficial is the early visits from high school recruits. Even then, until young recruits change their mindset about playing miles away from home it would have a limited effect.

Agreed about nationally recruiting but now that New Jersey and Maryland plus the states that adjoin them (New York, Virginia, DS Delaware) are now easier to recruit in because there are Big 10 programs nearby; getting top level talent interseted in a Big 10 program should be easier.

Recruiting in Texas should also be easier with the down falls of Texas and Texas A&M. Texas has hit rock bottom and A&M Is not far from that. NU recruits Texas hard and it has helped improve the roster

Ask Missouri what its like recruiting Texas now not in the Big 12, and that's even with an SEC team in the league. Nebraska in the B1G may get a player or two from Texas and maybe even a 4 star recruit or two but it won't be the top ranked recruits from the state. More than likely it will be someone Texas, OU, A&M, LSU, and a few others didn't recruit to hard.

If the B1G wanted access to Texas recruits they need to bring Texas & OU into the league but you need to add another Texas school and Rice isn't sufficient for the Longhorns.

Nebraska has definitely slipped in Texas recruiting as well. In 2018 Nebraska currently has 0 commits from Texas in 2017 they had 3 from Texas.

Just picking a few years from Big 12 days. 2008 they had 9 from Texas, 2009 they had 8 from Texas.

I think it would be safe to say that Nebraska's recruiting has slipped in more than just Texas.

Back in their hey-day they recruited well coast to coast. It should be interesting to see if Frost can use his Florida connections to create a pipeline to Nebraska and perhaps reconnecting to Texas.
12-20-2017 08:32 AM
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Maryland still has 4 teams ahead of them but coach Durkin and staff are working their tails off. At the end of the first day of the early signing period, 20 of 22 commits signed (the 2 who didn't weren't expected to sign until February anyway and 15 of the 22 are from the DMV). Had a former 5 star transfer in and picked up another 3 star WR. In addition to the 2 who are waiting until February, a 4 star RB could come to the Terps after he de-committed from USC last week. Now, for the first time ever, the Terps gave back to back top 25 classes. So, I'd have to say Maryland's football future is looking pretty good.
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The Big Ten is doing pretty well recruiting. They've got five teams in the top 25 on 247, with two in the top five. I'm slightly surprised Wisconsin is so low at 38, but they don't have a great natural recruiting area in their part of the country. Northwestern is the lowest ranked Big Ten school at 53 which is unfortunate for them because that is pretty respectable nationally even if there are 65 P5 schools. They really overachieve for the limitations put on the program.
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RE: Which Big 10 athletic program is best if you have to win a title in 5 years
(12-19-2017 11:42 AM)Win5002 Wrote:  
(12-15-2017 10:18 AM)Policiious Wrote:  
(12-10-2017 01:38 AM)Transic_nyc Wrote:  

Agreed about nationally recruiting but now that New Jersey and Maryland plus the states that adjoin them (New York, Virginia, DS Delaware) are now easier to recruit in because there are Big 10 programs nearby; getting top level talent interseted in a Big 10 program should be easier.

Recruiting in Texas should also be easier with the down falls of Texas and Texas A&M. Texas has hit rock bottom and A&M Is not far from that. NU recruits Texas hard and it has helped improve the roster

Ask Missouri what its like recruiting Texas now not in the Big 12, and that's even with an SEC team in the league. Nebraska in the B1G may get a player or two from Texas and maybe even a 4 star recruit or two but it won't be the top ranked recruits from the state. More than likely it will be someone Texas, OU, A&M, LSU, and a few others didn't recruit to hard.

If the B1G wanted access to Texas recruits they need to bring Texas & OU into the league but you need to add another Texas school and Rice isn't sufficient for the Longhorns.

Northwestern is getting better talent out of Texas the last 5 years, some of that has to do with more emphasis on Texas talent and NU investing millions in new facilities but I believe some of that also has to do with Texas and A&M in a down cycle. Not sure why Nebraska's recruiting in Texas has suffered but now that they've hired a head coach with ties in Florida I would bet that is where they will be looking to harvest talent.
12-26-2017 01:22 PM
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RE: Which Big 10 athletic program is best if you have to win a title in 5 years
(12-23-2017 08:38 AM)GE and MTS Wrote:  The Big Ten is doing pretty well recruiting. They've got five teams in the top 25 on 247, with two in the top five. I'm slightly surprised Wisconsin is so low at 38, but they don't have a great natural recruiting area in their part of the country. Northwestern is the lowest ranked Big Ten school at 53 which is unfortunate for them because that is pretty respectable nationally even if there are 65 P5 schools. They really overachieve for the limitations put on the program.

NU's ranking at least is in part due to the low number of offers they have available this year, 16. The class average is 3 with Ohio State having the conference's highest at 3.86. Nebraska is the only Big 10 program with fewer offers at 14.
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