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A loss to ECU-in theory- and a win in the AAC Championship game might not get us there.

(11-22-2017 07:49 AM)ADallasTiger Wrote:  https://247sports.com/college/boise-stat...-110869482


A loss to ECU-in theory- and a win in the AAC Championship game might not get us there.

If we lose to ECU we are out for sure. I am curious to see how we play against them. I can't imagine losing on Senior Day to ECU though. I could possibly see us be a little flat that results in a closer game than it should be though.

If we lose to #127 ranked East Carolina and win the championship game against USF I think Boise goes to the Peach.

(11-22-2017 08:06 AM)TIGERCITY Wrote:  If we lose to #127 ranked East Carolina and win the championship game against USF I think Boise goes to the Peach.

Let's see Boise get past Fresno first.

I think the American would have a stronger case for P6 if we were to somehow poach all of these other G5 conference perennial powerhouses... I wonder what the odds are of something like that?

(11-22-2017 09:21 AM)UofMstateU Wrote:  

(11-22-2017 08:06 AM)TIGERCITY Wrote:  If we lose to #127 ranked East Carolina and win the championship game against USF I think Boise goes to the Peach.

Let's see Boise get past Fresno first.

Don't they have to play Fresno twice? First this weekend, and then in their CCG?

Adding Boise State alone would be a big deal.

Not to open up the conference realignment box, but throwing out geography, which I do not think you should completely, Boise State and one more eastern school would be big, although is there another G5 school in the same universe recognition wise as BSU? We already have Navy. Army has cultural recognition and likely the most panache out East.

FAU and the like just do not move any dials period. Nor the Northern Illinois of the world. Only Fresno State, and of course BYU but they think of themselves as Notre Dame.

Air Force maybe...hmmm, add Air Force and Army. Have all three academies...that could be cool.

(11-22-2017 09:42 AM)Mimi Wrote:  Adding Boise State alone would be a big deal.

Not to open up the conference realignment box, but throwing out geography, which I do not think you should completely, Boise State and one more eastern school would be big, although is there another G5 school in the same universe recognition wise as BSU? We already have Navy. Army has cultural recognition and likely the most panache out East.

FAU and the like just do not move any dials period. Nor the Northern Illinois of the world. Only Fresno State, and of course BYU but they think of themselves as Notre Dame.

Air Force maybe...hmmm, add Air Force and Army. Have all three academies...that could be cool.

Of course Colorado State has the shiny new $220M on campus stadium that opened this year, which they rightfully sold pretty hard during the B12 sweepstakes. Air Force academy is only 120 miles away, so don't know if the American would want two schools so close together.

San Diego State would be the other option. Got into the Top 25 after beating Arizona State and Stanford in back-to-back weeks earlier this season.

BYU might not be so cocky anymore after the B12 turned them down, and with their declining performance since Bronco left.

(11-22-2017 09:41 AM)cotton1991 Wrote:  

(11-22-2017 09:21 AM)UofMstateU Wrote:  

(11-22-2017 08:06 AM)TIGERCITY Wrote:  If we lose to #127 ranked East Carolina and win the championship game against USF I think Boise goes to the Peach.

Let's see Boise get past Fresno first.

Don't they have to play Fresno twice? First this weekend, and then in their CCG?

I believe thats correct, as Fresno has that head to head win over SDSU so they have their division clinched. And this weekend is at Fresno.

Thats why the "one-path" for Boise to possibly be considered for the NY6 is pretty much absurd. Boise probably only has a 40% chance of being the MWC champ. Memphis likely has an 80% chance to beat ECU. USF likely has a 35% chance to beat UCF. Memphis probably has a 70% chance to beat USF in the CCG.

So for the 20% chance Memphis doesnt beat ECU, Boise has a 40% shot at getting considered 70% of the 35% of the time USF can beat UCF.

In other words, its not likely.

Down side to adding Boise is having to play on the damn weird color blue field.

There's no reason to add Boise St. They are dying a not-so-slow death.

(11-22-2017 12:19 PM)UofMstateU Wrote:  There's no reason to add Boise St. They are dying a not-so-slow death.

That's what they said when Peterson went to Washington. Yet, here we are.

(11-22-2017 12:47 PM)fishman6581 Wrote:  

(11-22-2017 12:19 PM)UofMstateU Wrote:  There's no reason to add Boise St. They are dying a not-so-slow death.

That's what they said when Peterson went to Washington. Yet, here we are.

Where are we? Contemplating if a 2 loss Boise St can even win the CCG in a crappy MWC conference? I dont think you are accurately recalling exactly how high up Boise St was.

(11-22-2017 01:11 PM)UofMstateU Wrote:  

(11-22-2017 12:47 PM)fishman6581 Wrote:  

(11-22-2017 12:19 PM)UofMstateU Wrote:  There's no reason to add Boise St. They are dying a not-so-slow death.

That's what they said when Peterson went to Washington. Yet, here we are.

Where are we? Contemplating if a 2 loss Boise St can even win the CCG in a crappy MWC conference? I dont think you are accurately recalling exactly how high up Boise St was.

Are you just arguing to be arguing? Bryan Harsin is 40-11 since taking over at Boise. 25-6 in conference. Any objective observer would say they haven't missed a beat. And I would take Boise in the American in a heartbeat.

I have a hard time believing there's any real scenario where the AAC CCG winner is not in the Access slot. We lose to ECU, we drop to around #23 (where Boise is now). But we beat UCF/USF, we're right back above them. The winner of UCF/USF beats us, they're in. USF would have to jump Boise - but 2 straight wins over UCF and us would do it.

(11-22-2017 01:19 PM)Tigx Wrote:  

(11-22-2017 01:11 PM)UofMstateU Wrote:  

(11-22-2017 12:47 PM)fishman6581 Wrote:  

(11-22-2017 12:19 PM)UofMstateU Wrote:  There's no reason to add Boise St. They are dying a not-so-slow death.

That's what they said when Peterson went to Washington. Yet, here we are.

Where are we? Contemplating if a 2 loss Boise St can even win the CCG in a crappy MWC conference? I dont think you are accurately recalling exactly how high up Boise St was.

Are you just arguing to be arguing? Bryan Harsin is 40-11 since taking over at Boise. 25-6 in conference. Any objective observer would say they haven't missed a beat. And I would take Boise in the American in a heartbeat.

Not missed a beat? Do you realize how pathetic the MWC has been during that time? You think 25-6 is good while being a member of a conference that was ranked below the sun belt at one point? Boise St was once regarded as BCS bowl level quality. Show me where they have been BCS Bowl level quality since. And please, spare me that they beat Troy this year.

(11-22-2017 01:48 PM)Tiger87 Wrote:  I have a hard time believing there's any real scenario where the AAC CCG winner is not in the Access slot. We lose to ECU, we drop to around #23 (where Boise is now). But we beat UCF/USF, we're right back above them. The winner of UCF/USF beats us, they're in. USF would have to jump Boise - but 2 straight wins over UCF and us would do it.

We won't lose to ECU, so it's moot, IMO.

But if we were to lose to ECU, we would drop way further than to #23. Out of the Top 25, and would get very few poll votes. G5 schools get punished for losses to bad teams, especially late in the season.

(11-22-2017 01:51 PM)UofMstateU Wrote:  

(11-22-2017 01:19 PM)Tigx Wrote:  

(11-22-2017 01:11 PM)UofMstateU Wrote:  

(11-22-2017 12:47 PM)fishman6581 Wrote:  

(11-22-2017 12:19 PM)UofMstateU Wrote:  There's no reason to add Boise St. They are dying a not-so-slow death.

That's what they said when Peterson went to Washington. Yet, here we are.

Where are we? Contemplating if a 2 loss Boise St can even win the CCG in a crappy MWC conference? I dont think you are accurately recalling exactly how high up Boise St was.

Are you just arguing to be arguing? Bryan Harsin is 40-11 since taking over at Boise. 25-6 in conference. Any objective observer would say they haven't missed a beat. And I would take Boise in the American in a heartbeat.

Not missed a beat? Do you realize how pathetic the MWC has been during that time? You think 25-6 is good while being a member of a conference that was ranked below the sun belt at one point? Boise St was once regarded as BCS bowl level quality. Show me where they have been BCS Bowl level quality since. And please, spare me that they beat Troy this year.

Yes, I think 25-6 in conference is very good. As any sane person does. And Harsin took Boise to the Fiesta Bowl his first year.

Btw, the BCS doesn't exist anymore. And last I checked, Troy isn't in the MWC.

We can lose to East Carolina and win the AACCG (unlikely of unlikelies, but this is the only thing Boise has going for them) and we will still be ranked higher.

The CFP committee values strong wins more than ANYTHING else. Gack up a stupid loss? No big deal if you come back next week and beat a strong team. If South Florida wins this week, they will vault past Boise. Whomever we play in two weeks will be a ranked opponent.

Boise is out of scheduling strength here.

(11-22-2017 01:58 PM)Tigx Wrote:  

(11-22-2017 01:51 PM)UofMstateU Wrote:  

(11-22-2017 01:19 PM)Tigx Wrote:  

(11-22-2017 01:11 PM)UofMstateU Wrote:  

(11-22-2017 12:47 PM)fishman6581 Wrote:  That's what they said when Peterson went to Washington. Yet, here we are.

Where are we? Contemplating if a 2 loss Boise St can even win the CCG in a crappy MWC conference? I dont think you are accurately recalling exactly how high up Boise St was.

Are you just arguing to be arguing? Bryan Harsin is 40-11 since taking over at Boise. 25-6 in conference. Any objective observer would say they haven't missed a beat. And I would take Boise in the American in a heartbeat.

Not missed a beat? Do you realize how pathetic the MWC has been during that time? You think 25-6 is good while being a member of a conference that was ranked below the sun belt at one point? Boise St was once regarded as BCS bowl level quality. Show me where they have been BCS Bowl level quality since. And please, spare me that they beat Troy this year.

Yes, I think 25-6 in conference is very good. As any sane person does. And Harsin took Boise to the Fiesta Bowl his first year.

Btw, the BCS doesn't exist anymore. And last I checked, Troy isn't in the MWC.

Can't tell if he's arguing just to argue, either. Boise State has won 12, 9, 10 and 9 games over four years. Maybe he's been spoiled by our run, I'm not sure. They won the Fiesta Bowl, lol. Haven't finished lower than 2nd in their conference since 1998. They have future games against Oklahoma State, Florida State and Michigan State. So they schedule nationally. So back to his smart ass "where are we" response: we're in the middle of another fine Boise State season where once again, they haven't gone under. And the American would benefit from adding them. And I recall how high Boise State was. They haven't fallen off the face of the map.