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Russia collusion claims that never came to be
https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/201...RjRVK0g1bU
Balanced article, but points out how flimsy and unprofessional Clapper, Comey, et al were in their claims of Russia trying to help Trump.
"...In interviews the Washington Times conducted with over a dozen U.S. intelligence and national security sources at the highest level as well as foreign diplomats, the overlooked and disturbing question about the lack of evidence has repeatedly emerged...."
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11-10-2017 09:44 AM |
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RE: Russia collusion claims that never came to be
(11-10-2017 09:44 AM)bullet Wrote: https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/201...RjRVK0g1bU
Balanced article, but points out how flimsy and unprofessional Clapper, Comey, et al were in their claims of Russia trying to help Trump.
"...In interviews the Washington Times conducted with over a dozen U.S. intelligence and national security sources at the highest level as well as foreign diplomats, the overlooked and disturbing question about the lack of evidence has repeatedly emerged...."
Good article, thanks for sharing.
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RE: Russia collusion claims that never came to be
The investigation is over?
Wow I didn't even notice.
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RE: Russia collusion claims that never came to be
(11-10-2017 09:44 AM)bullet Wrote: https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/201...RjRVK0g1bU
Balanced article, but points out how flimsy and unprofessional Clapper, Comey, et al were in their claims of Russia trying to help Trump.
"...In interviews the Washington Times conducted with over a dozen U.S. intelligence and national security sources at the highest level as well as foreign diplomats, the overlooked and disturbing question about the lack of evidence has repeatedly emerged...."
The Washington Times? Whose current headlines are "It's ok to be white campaign rankles higher education" and "NFL take-a-knee protests boil down to two liberal cities"? Color me skeptical of their "sources".
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RE: Russia collusion claims that never came to be
Nope. Still going on.
Here's a recent update:
Fusion GPS official met with Russian operative before and after Trump Jr. sit-down
Quote:The co-founder of Fusion GPS, the firm behind the unverified Trump dossier, met with a Russian lawyer before and after a key meeting she had last year with Trump’s son, Fox News has learned. The contacts shed new light on how closely tied the firm was to Russian interests, at a time when it was financing research to discredit then-candidate Donald Trump.
Keep in mind these guys were working for HilLIARy and the DNC:
Quote:The opposition research firm has faced renewed scrutiny after litigation revealed that the DNC and Hillary Clinton’s campaign paid for that research.
So, yeah, hopefully the investigation will continue.
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RE: Russia collusion claims that never came to be
(11-10-2017 11:07 AM)UCF08 Wrote: (11-10-2017 09:44 AM)bullet Wrote: https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/201...RjRVK0g1bU
Balanced article, but points out how flimsy and unprofessional Clapper, Comey, et al were in their claims of Russia trying to help Trump.
"...In interviews the Washington Times conducted with over a dozen U.S. intelligence and national security sources at the highest level as well as foreign diplomats, the overlooked and disturbing question about the lack of evidence has repeatedly emerged...."
The Washington Times? Whose current headlines are "It's ok to be white campaign rankles higher education" and "NFL take-a-knee protests boil down to two liberal cities"? Color me skeptical of their "sources".
It's understood that liberals would be dubious of a source considered to be center to center-right.
Well, given the fact that left-of-center sources are full of lies and fake news.
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RE: Russia collusion claims that never came to be
(11-10-2017 11:02 AM)Fitbud Wrote: The investigation is over?
Wow I didn't even notice.
You just implied that the FBI/Comey/Clapper reached conclusions without doing any investigation.
One would have thought that much of the investigation to reach the opinion/conclusion would have taken place before the opinion/conclusion was reached
Here we are a year later and 90% of it is still just innuendo and suppositions.... and the 'support' has turned to simply arguing that the opinions haven't been totally debunked (and arguably therefore must be accepted as fact)... Sort of like how the Christian right argues that since God's existence can't be totally disproved, it must be accepted by everyone as a fact.
(This post was last modified: 11-10-2017 12:23 PM by Hambone10.)
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RE: Russia collusion claims that never came to be
every charge of russian "collusion" is based on the "russian dossier", which has been (A) proven to be not only fake, but a fictitious political hit job (B ) paid for by the clinton campaign, ( C)upon which a special investigator was appointed, (D) who is indicting people for (E & F) "crimes" that weren't "committed" before the illegitimate investigation began, and the (C, again) improperly appointed special investigator started (G) interrogating innocent people.
someone, or many someone(s), involved in one of A through G belongs in prison.
so, here's the wind up; we're prosecuting people for their political beliefs. plain and simple. worse, they're presumed guilty based on false evidence, and they're presumed guilty until proven innocent.
the puritans, philosophical antecedents of today's liberals, burned women at the stake for witchcraft using exactly this method.
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11-10-2017 12:47 PM |
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RE: Russia collusion claims that never came to be
Plenty of the claims of Russian collusion have nothing to do with that dossier, are you just making things up?
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Russia collusion claims that never came to be
This explains McCain's actions of late
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RE: Russia collusion claims that never came to be
(11-10-2017 01:06 PM)UCF08 Wrote: Plenty of the claims of Russian collusion have nothing to do with that dossier, are you just making things up?
but it's cute that you admit 90% of my point, which is that the democrat-media complex has criminalized political disagreement. it's also cute that you concede it's a lie, but lay claim to lying as a valid instrument of the criminal justice system.
pretty ******* scary, dude.
anyway, name three --- that don't contain the word "email".
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RE: Russia collusion claims that never came to be
plenty of CLAIMS, yes.... but I think most of us are looking for more than mere 'claims'.
I remember the National Inquirer CLAIMING that Bill Clinton had an alien love child.
Having said that, this dossier is what Democrats have really hung their hat on, including as i said, 'claims' that nothing in it has been refuted... which if course is a back-handed way of claiming that it is therefore true, ignoring that it is often hard to prove something didn't happen.
Thankfully, people in general aren't stupid.
I mean seriously... If Trump is the person (and his family are the people) you guys keep claiming he is, why can't you pin anything significant or without all sorts of leaps of logic on him?
Mostly because I suspect you know there is nothing, but you also know that SOME people ARE stupid... and those people are easier to manipulate and those people's votes count just as much as smart people's votes
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RE: Russia collusion claims that never came to be
(11-10-2017 02:42 PM)Hambone10 Wrote: I remember the National Inquirer CLAIMING that Bill Clinton had an alien love child.
That's not really so far-fetched. This guy's mother obviously banged a Martian and he was a good friend of Bill Clinton.
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RE: Russia collusion claims that never came to be
Man, you guys really like your MSPaint.
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RE: Russia collusion claims that never came to be
(11-11-2017 09:07 PM)UCF08 Wrote: Man, you guys really like your MSPaint.
and you guys really like your cheese pizza.
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(11-11-2017 10:31 PM)UofMstateU Wrote: (11-11-2017 09:07 PM)UCF08 Wrote: Man, you guys really like your MSPaint.
and you guys really like your cheese pizza.
To those who might be unaware, this is a reference to the "Pizzagate" conspiracy theory which posits that a DNC organized pedophile ring is being run out of the basement of a D.C. pizzeria. The basis of this conspiracy theory is the claim that "cheese pizza" is code for "child porn", then claim their emails are really about abusing children. Yes, it's really that dumb.
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