(11-07-2017 10:15 AM)NigelTufnel Wrote:  This seems like such small potatoes. At the end of the day, Pastner is going to just say that Bell did this stuff on his own and he had no knowledge of it, and that may very well be true.

Bell comes out of this looking like a dirtbag and a #*$$#, oh cry me a river, my buddy didn't call me on my birthday, they didn't say I was "connected to the program". Geezus.

But JP did have 10+ communications with Bell on the day the players were at Bell's house. So JP had to know..........JP can't claim no knowledge.

(11-07-2017 10:16 AM)80sTiger Wrote:  

(11-07-2017 10:12 AM)TIGERCITY Wrote:  

(11-07-2017 10:05 AM)80sTiger Wrote:  Dan Wetzel‏ Verified account @DanWetzel 7m7 minutes ago
Retweeted Gary Parrish
Interesting story. Guy is mad Pastner didn't get call him on his birthday (among other things) so he tries to blow program up.

Calkins - 'Ron Bell is a weirdo"

Geoff Calkins Verified account @geoff_calkins 27m27 minutes ago
Ron Bell was around the program extensively at Memphis, had an almost creepy obsession with Pastner.

Wow. If this were a gal and a guy I’d say it was a lovers’ quarrel that turned toxic.

Did I read that dude was in prison for 50 months?

I love the pic of the two GT players lounging in Ron's pool,,,,,,very Blue Chips like

(11-07-2017 11:20 AM)holyterror Wrote:  

(11-07-2017 11:17 AM)NigelTufnel Wrote:  

(11-07-2017 10:38 AM)Marc Mensa Wrote:  

(11-07-2017 10:16 AM)80sTiger Wrote:  

(11-07-2017 10:12 AM)TIGERCITY Wrote:  Calkins - 'Ron Bell is a weirdo"

Geoff Calkins Verified account @geoff_calkins 27m27 minutes ago
Ron Bell was around the program extensively at Memphis, had an almost creepy obsession with Pastner.

He was in Atlanta and Memphis at Pastner's request? Why?

I'm sure the people at Tech eventually told Josh to distance himself from Bell, but like a jilted psychotic ex-girlfriend of a married man, the breakup was, obviously, not as easy as it seemed. There is dirt and Bell exposed it. Problem for Josh, is everything Bell is saying appears to be backed up with phone records. I'm sure the NCAA will take it from here.

He can't document where the cash came from, the phone calls are irrelevant, Josh admits that they were friends and spoke often.

Remember these 2 words, y'all: "Strict Liability ". NCAA can make anything out of this they decide to. Totally capricious.

Or let anything go - see UNC. The NCAA can dish out punishment with no rhyme or reason or simply say nothing here, move on....who knows.

(11-07-2017 12:02 PM)Atlanta Wrote:  

(11-07-2017 10:15 AM)NigelTufnel Wrote:  This seems like such small potatoes. At the end of the day, Pastner is going to just say that Bell did this stuff on his own and he had no knowledge of it, and that may very well be true.

Bell comes out of this looking like a dirtbag and a #*$$#, oh cry me a river, my buddy didn't call me on my birthday, they didn't say I was "connected to the program". Geezus.

But JP did have 10+ communications with Bell on the day the players were at Bell's house. So JP had to know..........JP can't claim no knowledge.

And he stayed in Memphis during the season, sat behind the bench, was called out on Pastner,s radio show for being a true fan, was called to Memphis by Pastner's wife, and then followed Josh to Atlanta.

Bell was Josh's bag man.

Some weird, wild stuff...

(11-07-2017 09:45 AM)Marc Mensa Wrote:  

(11-07-2017 09:40 AM)jamammy Wrote:  

(11-07-2017 09:33 AM)Marc Mensa Wrote:  I bet he wishes daily he never left Lubbock.

I know I do.

Perhaps, but he isn’t cheating to win. Pastner cheated, and still accomplished nothing more than a couple of 1st round NCAA wins.

Pastner was a fraud. His players knew he was a fraud, and down deep, he knew he was a fraud.

I knew the day would come when you and I were finally in agreement about something.

(11-07-2017 12:12 PM)Marc Mensa Wrote:  

(11-07-2017 12:02 PM)Atlanta Wrote:  

(11-07-2017 10:15 AM)NigelTufnel Wrote:  This seems like such small potatoes. At the end of the day, Pastner is going to just say that Bell did this stuff on his own and he had no knowledge of it, and that may very well be true.

Bell comes out of this looking like a dirtbag and a #*$$#, oh cry me a river, my buddy didn't call me on my birthday, they didn't say I was "connected to the program". Geezus.

But JP did have 10+ communications with Bell on the day the players were at Bell's house. So JP had to know..........JP can't claim no knowledge.

And he stayed in Memphis during the season, sat behind the bench, was called out on Pastner,s radio show for being a true fan, was called to Memphis by Pastner's wife, and then followed Josh to Atlanta.

Bell was Josh's bag man.

Josh had his own world wide wes, it appears.

(11-07-2017 09:56 AM)UMTiger02 Wrote:  I’d heard from a few people that Josh puts on a “squeaky clean” front....I mean he was on Cal’s staff. Sure he learned a few “tricks”

Yeah, this isn't the first time I've heard of improprieties from him. I passed them off as sour grapes before.

(11-07-2017 10:15 AM)macgar32 Wrote:  I have no problem Vacating the 3 seasons Markel played for us.

This^

(11-07-2017 10:25 AM)TiminMem23 Wrote:  

(11-07-2017 10:23 AM)Tiger57 Wrote:  

(11-07-2017 09:56 AM)UMTiger02 Wrote:  I’d heard from a few people that Josh puts on a “squeaky clean” front....I mean he was on Cal’s staff. Sure he learned a few “tricks”

Lute wasn’t squeaky clean either

Let's be real: most successful coaches have to at a minimum toe the line when it comes to following the rules.

In this particular instance, it's much ado about nothing.

So there are lesser magnitudes of cheating. Still, if true, he cheated. In some minds "he only cheated a little" makes it ok?

(11-07-2017 12:12 PM)Marc Mensa Wrote:  

(11-07-2017 12:02 PM)Atlanta Wrote:  

(11-07-2017 10:15 AM)NigelTufnel Wrote:  This seems like such small potatoes. At the end of the day, Pastner is going to just say that Bell did this stuff on his own and he had no knowledge of it, and that may very well be true.

Bell comes out of this looking like a dirtbag and a #*$$#, oh cry me a river, my buddy didn't call me on my birthday, they didn't say I was "connected to the program". Geezus.

But JP did have 10+ communications with Bell on the day the players were at Bell's house. So JP had to know..........JP can't claim no knowledge.

And he stayed in Memphis during the season, sat behind the bench, was called out on Pastner,s radio show for being a true fan, was called to Memphis by Pastner's wife, and then followed Josh to Atlanta.

Bell was Josh's bag man.

Well at least it wasn't a bagged woman. They can get a lot crazier when jilted.

NTR

Did anyone really think he was squeaky clean.

He might've thought he was....shrug....the mind can be a formidable tool.

This should smoke out any Josh fluffers still hanging around here.

Pastner called me on my birthday . . . True story.

A lot of this sounds like such BS. For example GP asked Bell if he has any emails or texts that would corroborate that Pastner knew this was going on and the guy said "Josh is too smart to do something like that". Ok so you are telling me he's smart enough to not do that but dumb enough to say to him "you are a drug addict and no one is going to believe you. And I don't cheat". Come on . . Read that out loud and tell me you can picture Pastner saying that. I feel like this guy did provide things to players but I don't think Josh knew about it.

(11-07-2017 10:28 AM)MemTigers1998 Wrote:  So choir boy Josh was hanging with druggie ex-cons

Jesus hung out with thieves and prostitutes

Pitino might try that defense.

(11-07-2017 12:23 PM)holyterror Wrote:  

(11-07-2017 12:12 PM)Marc Mensa Wrote:  

(11-07-2017 12:02 PM)Atlanta Wrote:  

(11-07-2017 10:15 AM)NigelTufnel Wrote:  This seems like such small potatoes. At the end of the day, Pastner is going to just say that Bell did this stuff on his own and he had no knowledge of it, and that may very well be true.

Bell comes out of this looking like a dirtbag and a #*$$#, oh cry me a river, my buddy didn't call me on my birthday, they didn't say I was "connected to the program". Geezus.

But JP did have 10+ communications with Bell on the day the players were at Bell's house. So JP had to know..........JP can't claim no knowledge.

And he stayed in Memphis during the season, sat behind the bench, was called out on Pastner,s radio show for being a true fan, was called to Memphis by Pastner's wife, and then followed Josh to Atlanta.

Bell was Josh's bag man.

Josh had his own world wide wes, it appears.

Meh...more of a “Regional Roundball Ron”

(11-07-2017 01:11 PM)EarthBoundMisfit Wrote:  

(11-07-2017 10:28 AM)MemTigers1998 Wrote:  So choir boy Josh was hanging with druggie ex-cons

Jesus hung out with thieves and prostitutes

Wow