Whether you agree with the policy ideas or not, at least here is something tangible that gets the conversation started on how to improve inner city slums.

https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/arc...ty/543339/

This is something that could have real, sustainable change to improve the minority experience in the USA.

An interesting quote from the article.

Quote:Charlotte has examined these problems more systematically than most. After a study led by Stanford University economist Raj Chetty ranked it last among the 50 largest metropolitan areas in promoting upward mobility for low-income kids, local leaders convened a task force on opportunity that produced an extensive report this spring. That effort urged the city to focus mostly on three areas: expanding access to early-childhood education, building a better bridge between high school and post-secondary education, and strengthening families.

While it continues on and thinks the most important part of the equation is early childhood intervention via preschool, IMHO the REAL issue is the one I highlighted. You're not going to be able to effectively learn - on a consistent basis - if your home life is sh!t. There are always exceptions; however, we see the evidence everyday that a crap home life will more likely than not result in a sh!tty adult being the end result.

So, if we were to allow horned drag queens read sexual deviance books to our pre-schoolers, would that help or hurt the cause?

(10-19-2017 10:55 AM)miko33 Wrote:  Whether you agree with the policy ideas or not, at least here is something tangible that gets the conversation started on how to improve inner city slums.

https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/arc...ty/543339/

This is something that could have real, sustainable change to improve the minority experience in the USA.

An interesting quote from the article.

Quote:Charlotte has examined these problems more systematically than most. After a study led by Stanford University economist Raj Chetty ranked it last among the 50 largest metropolitan areas in promoting upward mobility for low-income kids, local leaders convened a task force on opportunity that produced an extensive report this spring. That effort urged the city to focus mostly on three areas: expanding access to early-childhood education, building a better bridge between high school and post-secondary education, and strengthening families.

While it continues on and thinks the most important part of the equation is early childhood intervention via preschool, IMHO the REAL issue is the one I highlighted. You're not going to be able to effectively learn - on a consistent basis - if your home life is sh!t. There are always exceptions; however, we see the evidence everyday that a crap home life will more likely than not result in a sh!tty adult being the end result.

the text in bold falls under the "no shite" category.....

what I didn't see was how two/three lost generations can accomplish that....

it's become a numbers game at this point....

(10-19-2017 10:55 AM)miko33 Wrote:  Whether you agree with the policy ideas or not, at least here is something tangible that gets the conversation started on how to improve inner city slums.

https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/arc...ty/543339/

This is something that could have real, sustainable change to improve the minority experience in the USA.

An interesting quote from the article.

Quote:Charlotte has examined these problems more systematically than most. After a study led by Stanford University economist Raj Chetty ranked it last among the 50 largest metropolitan areas in promoting upward mobility for low-income kids, local leaders convened a task force on opportunity that produced an extensive report this spring. That effort urged the city to focus mostly on three areas: expanding access to early-childhood education, building a better bridge between high school and post-secondary education, and strengthening families.

While it continues on and thinks the most important part of the equation is early childhood intervention via preschool, IMHO the REAL issue is the one I highlighted. You're not going to be able to effectively learn - on a consistent basis - if your home life is sh!t. There are always exceptions; however, we see the evidence everyday that a crap home life will more likely than not result in a sh!tty adult being the end result.

They haven't shown that early childhood education makes any difference once you get beyond 2nd or 3rd grade. They are better prepared for K and 1, but the advantage disappears.

When you look at the differences between average schools and the inner city schools, the gap really grows in the middle school years. And there is no focus on those years. They focus on high school and elementary, but they seem to lose them in the middle schools and they never catch back up.

(10-19-2017 10:55 AM)miko33 Wrote:  Whether you agree with the policy ideas or not, at least here is something tangible that gets the conversation started on how to improve inner city slums.

https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/arc...ty/543339/

This is something that could have real, sustainable change to improve the minority experience in the USA.

An interesting quote from the article.

Quote:Charlotte has examined these problems more systematically than most. After a study led by Stanford University economist Raj Chetty ranked it last among the 50 largest metropolitan areas in promoting upward mobility for low-income kids, local leaders convened a task force on opportunity that produced an extensive report this spring. That effort urged the city to focus mostly on three areas: expanding access to early-childhood education, building a better bridge between high school and post-secondary education, and strengthening families.

While it continues on and thinks the most important part of the equation is early childhood intervention via preschool, IMHO the REAL issue is the one I highlighted. You're not going to be able to effectively learn - on a consistent basis - if your home life is sh!t. There are always exceptions; however, we see the evidence everyday that a crap home life will more likely than not result in a sh!tty adult being the end result.

I'm not able to read the entire yet.

Is it safe to assume that for MAX EFFECT it simply states:

"Get married

Stay married"?

Oh, and don't break the law...

So basically instead of cutting something ridiculous that I'm sure is being funded by Charlotte and Chicago taxes their plan is to create a new taxes/fee's and Charlotte's partly blaming teachers? That's what I got out of the article.

Nothing wrong with trying to improve the community but every single answer from democrats is always to create a new tax or fee. How about cutting tax funded money from other areas that you feel aren't as important as this and put it towards the programs you want to get off the ground?

One thing Obama did that I thought was commendable was to callout fathers and challenge them to step up

https://mobile.nytimes.com/2008/06/16/us...obama.html

Our society needs this desperately but instead of encouraging men to step up we degrade them at every opportunity

I don't think raising taxes is the right call necessarily. However, we need to keep in mind that local politics will be different than the national stage. Everyone has to be pragmatic on the local level and both parties have to get along or the local region suffers greatly. If the taxes are small and spread widely throughout the community (say 0.25 to 0.5 mill increase in property taxes), then it could be doable. Again though, the slums have a number of problems going on that need to be addressed first - or concurrently - in order for their economic futures improve. How do you fix families where guys knock up single women (or girls) with zero intention to marry? How do you change the mindset that trying to get an education/trying to succeed = "being an uncle Tom"? How do you eliminate the vast majority of the gangs from the neighborhoods? It's hard to get an education when your 1) home life sucks, 2) peer pressured to not try in school, 3) peer pressure to join a gang and 4) trying to navigate your neighborhood without getting killed.

ETA, these are the conversations that most SJW's don't really want to have IMHO. It's a lot easier to crow about it from the rooftops and protest instead of trying to address the issues head on. If you take the cynic's view, the protests you see about racial injustice are more about the protesters trying to feel like they are marching with Martin Luther King than it is about making substantial changes for the better.

(10-19-2017 10:55 AM)miko33 Wrote:  Whether you agree with the policy ideas or not, at least here is something tangible that gets the conversation started on how to improve inner city slums.

https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/arc...ty/543339/

This is something that could have real, sustainable change to improve the minority experience in the USA.

An interesting quote from the article.

Quote:Charlotte has examined these problems more systematically than most. After a study led by Stanford University economist Raj Chetty ranked it last among the 50 largest metropolitan areas in promoting upward mobility for low-income kids, local leaders convened a task force on opportunity that produced an extensive report this spring. That effort urged the city to focus mostly on three areas: expanding access to early-childhood education, building a better bridge between high school and post-secondary education, and strengthening families.

While it continues on and thinks the most important part of the equation is early childhood intervention via preschool, IMHO the REAL issue is the one I highlighted. You're not going to be able to effectively learn - on a consistent basis - if your home life is sh!t. There are always exceptions; however, we see the evidence everyday that a crap home life will more likely than not result in a sh!tty adult being the end result.

The collapse of the traditional family is the single most important aspect in poverty. It does not take a Village to raise a child....It takes a family.