(10-10-2017 12:23 PM)Lord Stanley Wrote:  

(10-10-2017 12:18 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  That is, but not doing one for nothing more than a cheap stunt. Hell, he even screwed up his tweet about it by using a photo from 3 years ago.

As if 80% of politics isn't 100% a cheap stunt.

I swear to Huskie Jebus that if Donald Trump said: "Don't murder baby kittens!" the Democrat party would scream: "KILL ALL THE BABY KITTENS!!!!"

C'mon man...ridiculous and you know it.

(10-10-2017 12:26 PM)nutbushtiger Wrote:  My guess is if the players don't take a knee, Pence gets to enjoy the game. Don't matter why he was at the game, the why, the how. You take a knee during the anthem you deserve to be walked out on by the VP of the United F'n States. If you are slamming Pence and not the players, you got issues.

Perhaps you and the rest of these right-wing fake grand-standers should educate yourself on what the players are actually protesting. It's not the anthem, the flag, or the military.

And I suppose you're going to tell me that you stand for the anthem when watching events at home?

(10-10-2017 12:31 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(10-10-2017 12:26 PM)nutbushtiger Wrote:  My guess is if the players don't take a knee, Pence gets to enjoy the game. Don't matter why he was at the game, the why, the how. You take a knee during the anthem you deserve to be walked out on by the VP of the United F'n States. If you are slamming Pence and not the players, you got issues.

Perhaps you and the rest of these right-wing fake grand-standers should educate yourself on what the players are actually protesting. It's not the anthem, the flag, or the military.

And I suppose you're going to tell me that you stand for the anthem when watching events at home?

I peed on your family photos to protest homelessness.

Oh, you don't like that? Well you need to educate yourself and stop being anti-homeless people!

Not going to work...but keep plucking that chicken!



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(10-10-2017 12:31 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(10-10-2017 12:26 PM)nutbushtiger Wrote:  My guess is if the players don't take a knee, Pence gets to enjoy the game. Don't matter why he was at the game, the why, the how. You take a knee during the anthem you deserve to be walked out on by the VP of the United F'n States. If you are slamming Pence and not the players, you got issues.

Perhaps you and the rest of these right-wing fake grand-standers should educate yourself on what the players are actually protesting. It's not the anthem, the flag, or the military.

And I suppose you're going to tell me that you stand for the anthem when watching events at home?

if thats not the reason why they are protesting, then why are they protesting during the time thats reserved for honoring the flag, the anthem and the military?

(10-10-2017 12:22 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(10-10-2017 10:01 AM)DefCONNOne Wrote:  So blaming the video for Benghazi when the truth says/said otherwise is an appropriate response for a President?

Okay then.

The day after the attack, the video was suspected as the cause, so he said as much.

From the New York Times on September 12, 2012:

Quote:Fighters involved in the assault, which was spearheaded by an Islamist brigade formed during last year’s uprising against Col. Muammar el-Qaddafi, said in interviews during the battle that they were moved to attack the mission by anger over a 14-minute, American-made video that depicted the Prophet Muhammad, Islam’s founder, as a villainous, homosexual and child-molesting buffoon. Their attack followed by just a few hours the storming of the compound surrounding the United States Embassy in Cairo by an unarmed mob protesting the same video. On Wednesday, new crowds of protesters gathered outside the United States Embassies in Tunis and Cairo.

Libya Attack Brings Challenges for U.S.

And subsequent intelligence also thought this and that was what Rice used on the morning shows. Later we found out this information was incorrect. This has all been covered here before as well as in the Republican investigations which cleared Rice.

Move along.

No it was not suspected to be the cause at all. In fact Obama knew the video excuse was a lie and yet sent his minions to go out on the Sunday shows and peddle said lie. I've got proof that you'll more than likely dismiss as not good enough.

https://pjmedia.com/andrewmccarthy/2016/...hazi-lies/

Move along.

(10-10-2017 12:31 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(10-10-2017 12:26 PM)nutbushtiger Wrote:  My guess is if the players don't take a knee, Pence gets to enjoy the game. Don't matter why he was at the game, the why, the how. You take a knee during the anthem you deserve to be walked out on by the VP of the United F'n States. If you are slamming Pence and not the players, you got issues.

Perhaps you and the rest of these right-wing fake grand-standers should educate yourself on what the players are actually protesting. It's not the anthem, the flag, or the military.

And I suppose you're going to tell me that you stand for the anthem when watching events at home?

They weren't protesting anything. Now they're protesting President Trump.

Move along.

(10-10-2017 12:31 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(10-10-2017 12:26 PM)nutbushtiger Wrote:  My guess is if the players don't take a knee, Pence gets to enjoy the game. Don't matter why he was at the game, the why, the how. You take a knee during the anthem you deserve to be walked out on by the VP of the United F'n States. If you are slamming Pence and not the players, you got issues.

It's not the anthem, the flag, or the military.

Do it another time then, should be pretty simple. You know it and everyone else knows it, talk about grandstanding, you are ate up with it.

Trump taking credit for the PR stunt is crazy. Why bother to pretend when the president blabs about the plan .

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(10-10-2017 12:58 PM)DefCONNOne Wrote:  

(10-10-2017 12:31 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(10-10-2017 12:26 PM)nutbushtiger Wrote:  My guess is if the players don't take a knee, Pence gets to enjoy the game. Don't matter why he was at the game, the why, the how. You take a knee during the anthem you deserve to be walked out on by the VP of the United F'n States. If you are slamming Pence and not the players, you got issues.

Perhaps you and the rest of these right-wing fake grand-standers should educate yourself on what the players are actually protesting. It's not the anthem, the flag, or the military.

And I suppose you're going to tell me that you stand for the anthem when watching events at home?

They weren't protesting anything. Now they're protesting President Trump.

Move along.

So they were kneeling for no reason?

(10-10-2017 12:18 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(10-10-2017 10:00 AM)VA49er Wrote:  

(10-10-2017 09:58 AM)450bench Wrote:  Bottom line is libs are going to complain and cry about anything. Doesn't even matter what the subject matter is.

Yep, especially when it comes to Trump. One can literally wake up each morning and check to see what the latest "outrage" is. Grab your popcorn and enjoy the show.

Cry me a river guys. We were all around during Obama. Your objections ring hollow.

Not at all the same. Yes, there were the usual suspects that dogged Obama but that was nothing compared to the pure Trump hatred I see following the election. Keep in mind I did not vote for Trump so I'm looking at this from a nonpartisan viewpoint. Research proves me correct. A recent Pew Study on news coverage revealed that 95% of media coverage of Trump is not positive. That speaks to a collective media mindset of hate against Trump. To put it in even more perspective, the same study also reveals that Trump receives twice the negativity seen in stories from the first 60 days of Bill Clinton, George W. Bush or Barack Obama's presidencies.

(10-10-2017 12:55 PM)DefCONNOne Wrote:  

(10-10-2017 12:22 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(10-10-2017 10:01 AM)DefCONNOne Wrote:  So blaming the video for Benghazi when the truth says/said otherwise is an appropriate response for a President?

Okay then.

The day after the attack, the video was suspected as the cause, so he said as much.

From the New York Times on September 12, 2012:

Quote:Fighters involved in the assault, which was spearheaded by an Islamist brigade formed during last year’s uprising against Col. Muammar el-Qaddafi, said in interviews during the battle that they were moved to attack the mission by anger over a 14-minute, American-made video that depicted the Prophet Muhammad, Islam’s founder, as a villainous, homosexual and child-molesting buffoon. Their attack followed by just a few hours the storming of the compound surrounding the United States Embassy in Cairo by an unarmed mob protesting the same video. On Wednesday, new crowds of protesters gathered outside the United States Embassies in Tunis and Cairo.

Libya Attack Brings Challenges for U.S.

And subsequent intelligence also thought this and that was what Rice used on the morning shows. Later we found out this information was incorrect. This has all been covered here before as well as in the Republican investigations which cleared Rice.

Move along.

No it was not suspected to be the cause at all. In fact Obama knew the video excuse was a lie and yet sent his minions to go out on the Sunday shows and peddle said lie. I've got proof that you'll more than likely dismiss as not good enough.

https://pjmedia.com/andrewmccarthy/2016/...hazi-lies/

Move along.

Right. You know Obama was lying the day after the attack because the case was already totally investigated. I guess that's what happens to you when you rely on pajamas media.

But I notice you're still choosing to ignore the several congressional investigations that clearly tell you that you're wrong.

(10-10-2017 09:49 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(10-10-2017 09:12 AM)Lord Stanley Wrote:  I find liberals complaining about the cost of Pence attending the Colts game to be as odd as conservatives complaining about the cost of Obama's vacations.

It's part of the job.

But that wasn't/isn't his job.

Most of his job is at the discretion of the president. If he's given the assignment to further sow dissent, that's his job.

(10-10-2017 01:01 PM)nutbushtiger Wrote:  

(10-10-2017 12:31 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(10-10-2017 12:26 PM)nutbushtiger Wrote:  My guess is if the players don't take a knee, Pence gets to enjoy the game. Don't matter why he was at the game, the why, the how. You take a knee during the anthem you deserve to be walked out on by the VP of the United F'n States. If you are slamming Pence and not the players, you got issues.

It's not the anthem, the flag, or the military.

Do it another time then, should be pretty simple. You know it and everyone else knows it, talk about grandstanding, you are ate up with it.

1. You don't know me.
2. I agree, I would have done it another time and place and prefer that they do as well.
3. I've been ready for this to go away for months now. I'm not eating up anything.

The problem is that in America, you don't get to tell people when they get to stand up for what they believe in. See America.

(10-10-2017 12:58 PM)DefCONNOne Wrote:  

(10-10-2017 12:31 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(10-10-2017 12:26 PM)nutbushtiger Wrote:  My guess is if the players don't take a knee, Pence gets to enjoy the game. Don't matter why he was at the game, the why, the how. You take a knee during the anthem you deserve to be walked out on by the VP of the United F'n States. If you are slamming Pence and not the players, you got issues.

Perhaps you and the rest of these right-wing fake grand-standers should educate yourself on what the players are actually protesting. It's not the anthem, the flag, or the military.

And I suppose you're going to tell me that you stand for the anthem when watching events at home?

Now they're protesting President Trump.

Bingo! Glad you finally see the light. They're protesting social injustice. Like a rouge president telling people when it is appropriate to protest and exercise constitutional rights.

Until the NFL teams institute rules against it, trump has no place telling them what they can and cannot (or should not) do when it is fully within their rights.

Pretty sure you did not like in one bit when Obama chimed in on social issues, AMIRITE?

so let me get this straight, they were protesting social injustice by President Trump way before he became President Trump?

(10-10-2017 01:30 PM)VA49er Wrote:  

(10-10-2017 12:18 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(10-10-2017 10:00 AM)VA49er Wrote:  

(10-10-2017 09:58 AM)450bench Wrote:  Bottom line is libs are going to complain and cry about anything. Doesn't even matter what the subject matter is.

Yep, especially when it comes to Trump. One can literally wake up each morning and check to see what the latest "outrage" is. Grab your popcorn and enjoy the show.

Cry me a river guys. We were all around during Obama. Your objections ring hollow.

Not at all the same. Yes, there were the usual suspects that dogged Obama but that was nothing compared to the pure Trump hatred I see following the election. Keep in mind I did not vote for Trump so I'm looking at this from a nonpartisan viewpoint. Research proves me correct. A recent Pew Study on news coverage revealed that 95% of media coverage of Trump is not positive. That speaks to a collective media mindset of hate against Trump. To put it in even more perspective, the same study also reveals that Trump receives twice the negativity seen in stories from the first 60 days of Bill Clinton, George W. Bush or Barack Obama's presidencies.

Just one small problem. trump is the least popular president in polling history I believe. There's not much about him that is positive. Not to mention he's a thoroughly divisive figure.

(10-10-2017 01:44 PM)UTSAMarineVet09 Wrote:  so let me get this straight, they were protesting social injustice by President Trump way before he became President Trump?

Try to keep. Part of what they are protesting NOW is due to trump sticking his nose into something he has no place being in. He's only in it because it riles up his mindless base. See this place the last few weeks.

This started with Kap last year and was about social injustices against blacks.

(10-10-2017 01:47 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(10-10-2017 01:44 PM)UTSAMarineVet09 Wrote:  so let me get this straight, they were protesting social injustice by President Trump way before he became President Trump?

Try to keep. Part of what they are protesting NOW is due to trump sticking his nose into something he has no place being in. He's only in it because it riles up his mindless base. See this place the last few weeks.

This started with Kap last year and was about social injustices against blacks.

so Trump has no place on speaking his mind about people protesting the flag, the national anthem and the military?

(10-10-2017 01:48 PM)UTSAMarineVet09 Wrote:  

(10-10-2017 01:47 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(10-10-2017 01:44 PM)UTSAMarineVet09 Wrote:  so let me get this straight, they were protesting social injustice by President Trump way before he became President Trump?

Try to keep. Part of what they are protesting NOW is due to trump sticking his nose into something he has no place being in. He's only in it because it riles up his mindless base. See this place the last few weeks.

This started with Kap last year and was about social injustices against blacks.

so Trump has no place on speaking his mind about people protesting the flag, the national anthem and the military?

OFFS!

For the umpteenth time, they are not protesting the flag, the anthem, nor the military!

JHC.

Can anyone provide for me one comment from an NFL player where they said they have an issue with the flag, the anthem, or the military, as the reason for their protest?