(09-29-2017 08:59 AM)swagsurfer11 Wrote:  

(09-29-2017 08:12 AM)HeartOfDixie Wrote:  

(09-28-2017 10:06 PM)swagsurfer11 Wrote:  

(09-28-2017 10:04 PM)HeartOfDixie Wrote:  "African Holocaust"

Wow!

When did that happen?

Slavery. I guess the "never forgot" hashtags aren't working.

There is a magical book where we hide the meaning of various words. You should go on a quest to find one of those books and look up the word holocaust.

I realize that you were trying to be cute, but here ya go. Happy Friday.

"destruction or slaughter on a mass scale"

Sometimes if you don't know what the words mean in the definition of another word you can look them up too!

(10-03-2017 07:52 PM)HeartOfDixie Wrote:  

(09-29-2017 08:59 AM)swagsurfer11 Wrote:  

(09-29-2017 08:12 AM)HeartOfDixie Wrote:  

(09-28-2017 10:06 PM)swagsurfer11 Wrote:  

(09-28-2017 10:04 PM)HeartOfDixie Wrote:  "African Holocaust"

Wow!

When did that happen?

Slavery. I guess the "never forgot" hashtags aren't working.

There is a magical book where we hide the meaning of various words. You should go on a quest to find one of those books and look up the word holocaust.

I realize that you were trying to be cute, but here ya go. Happy Friday.

"destruction or slaughter on a mass scale"

Sometimes if you don't know what the words mean in the definition of another word you can look them up too!

Just tell him it was a mass evacuation and he'll be satisfied

(10-03-2017 07:58 PM)Kaplony Wrote:  

(10-03-2017 07:52 PM)HeartOfDixie Wrote:  

(09-29-2017 08:59 AM)swagsurfer11 Wrote:  

(09-29-2017 08:12 AM)HeartOfDixie Wrote:  

(09-28-2017 10:06 PM)swagsurfer11 Wrote:  Slavery. I guess the "never forgot" hashtags aren't working.

There is a magical book where we hide the meaning of various words. You should go on a quest to find one of those books and look up the word holocaust.

I realize that you were trying to be cute, but here ya go. Happy Friday.

"destruction or slaughter on a mass scale"

Sometimes if you don't know what the words mean in the definition of another word you can look them up too!

Just tell him it was a mass evacuation and he'll be satisfied

I'm not sure that satisfaction for him will come until the words are mass anal intrusion.

The second I read that the author changed "slavery"..to "African Holocaust"..I immediately gave this zero fcks. When is the black community going to stop this nonsense? It is sickening and is actually holding down the success of blacks by making them feel that something is owed to them and thus making them not WORK hard enough to succeed. Stop with the excuses. Go to fcking work!!!

(09-29-2017 01:47 AM)ODUsmitty Wrote:  American victimization politics have no boundaries. Built upon a foundation of false narratives and distortions of the truth. But such folks will ride that racist horse long past the time for the glue factory.

Given that there were more slaves shipped to the Caribbean, shouldn't they be given an advantage over African-Americans?

I mean really, how stupid are these people? Do they not understand any history?

(10-03-2017 07:43 PM)Native Georgian Wrote:  

(09-29-2017 02:07 AM)Native Georgian Wrote:  

(09-28-2017 10:33 PM)swagsurfer11 Wrote:  Well using that logic, there was also a reverse Jewish holocaust. Jewish population went from 3.5 million to 15 million.

What years did that increase take place? And in which nations?

Bump

1950 to today. All nations.

(09-28-2017 09:37 PM)SuperFlyBCat Wrote:  We demand that Cornell Admissions to come up with a plan to actively increase the presence of
underrepresented Black students on this campus. We define underrepresented Black students as
Black Americans who have several generations (more than two) in this country.
The Black student population at Cornell disproportionately represents international or
first-generation African or Caribbean students. While these students have a right to flourish at
Cornell, there is a lack of investment in Black students whose families were affected directly by
the African Holocaust in America. Cornell must work to actively support students whose
families have been impacted for generations by white supremacy and American fascism
https://legalinsurrection.com/wp-content...emands.pdf

I come from Florida. My Jamaican friends and my friends from St Thomas.. Felt discriminated against by A/A's back in the day. This is nothing new. All people of African descent do not see eye to eye.. Same as Spanish cultures.. Someone from Puerto Rico may have vastly different views than someone from Cuba...

This is why demographic politics is such a failure for Progressives douchbags...

(10-03-2017 09:09 PM)bullet Wrote:  

(09-29-2017 01:47 AM)ODUsmitty Wrote:  American victimization politics have no boundaries. Built upon a foundation of false narratives and distortions of the truth. But such folks will ride that racist horse long past the time for the glue factory.

Given that there were more slaves shipped to the Caribbean, shouldn't they be given an advantage over African-Americans?

I mean really, how stupid are these people? Do they not understand any history?

That was my first thought when I saw this. And the fact that in the Caribbean it was almost normal to work slaves to death........

Now, if they were to argue that preference should be given to AA American citizens before Caribbean non-citizens, I'm listening...

(10-04-2017 07:08 AM)Crebman Wrote:  

(10-03-2017 09:09 PM)bullet Wrote:  

(09-29-2017 01:47 AM)ODUsmitty Wrote:  American victimization politics have no boundaries. Built upon a foundation of false narratives and distortions of the truth. But such folks will ride that racist horse long past the time for the glue factory.

Given that there were more slaves shipped to the Caribbean, shouldn't they be given an advantage over African-Americans?

I mean really, how stupid are these people? Do they not understand any history?

That was my first thought when I saw this. And the fact that in the Caribbean it was almost normal to work slaves to death........

Now, if they were to argue that preference should be given to AA American citizens before Caribbean non-citizens, I'm listening...

Not the argument though. Even people of Caribbean background born in the USA they are suggesting get on the back of the bus. Cornell is private so they can do whatever they want.

(09-28-2017 10:04 PM)HeartOfDixie Wrote:  "African Holocaust"

Wow!

When did that happen?

In places like Alabama for centuries. Millions of Africans were killed in the process of slave transport, through murder by slaveholders, etc.

Just a question. Were Jews that were locked up in concentration camps and forced to work, but survived 'holocaust victims'? If they were, then were the blacks forced to work on slave camps in the American south 'holocaust victims'?

Regardless of the merit of the particular protest at Cornell, the use of the word Holocaust to describe the impact of slavery on Africans is appropriate.

(10-03-2017 09:09 PM)Fo Shizzle Wrote:  The second I read that the author changed "slavery"..to "African Holocaust"..I immediately gave this zero fcks. When is the black community going to stop this nonsense? It is sickening and is actually holding down the success of blacks by making them feel that something is owed to them and thus making them not WORK hard enough to succeed. Stop with the excuses. Go to fcking work!!!

How is it nonsense to change the word slavery to African Holocaust.

Were the million or so Jews killed in the course of transport to Nazi work camps victims of a Holocaust? Were the millions of Africans who died in inhumane transport to American workcamps victims of a holocaust?

(10-04-2017 11:12 AM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  

(09-28-2017 10:04 PM)HeartOfDixie Wrote:  "African Holocaust"

Wow!

When did that happen?

In places like Alabama for centuries. Millions of Africans were killed in the process of slave transport, through murder by slaveholders, etc.

Just a question. Were Jews that were locked up in concentration camps and forced to work, but survived 'holocaust victims'? If they were, then were the blacks forced to work on slave camps in the American south 'holocaust victims'?

Regardless of the merit of the particular protest at Cornell, the use of the word Holocaust to describe the impact of slavery on Africans is appropriate.

You going to need a link for that. Killing slaves is bad for plantation business.
Population of Alabama
1800 1,250 —
1810 9,046 +623.7%
1820 127,901 +1313.9%
1830 309,527 +142.0%
1840 590,756 +90.9%
1850 771,623 +30.6%
1860 964,201 +25.0%
1870 996,992 +3.4%
1880 1,262,505 +26.6%
1890 1,513,401 +19.9%
1900 1,828,697 +20.8%
1910 2,138,093 +16.9%
1920 2,348,174 +9.8%
1930 2,646,248 +12.7%
1940 2,832,961 +7.1%
1950 3,061,743 +8.1%
1960 3,266,740 +6.7%
1970 3,444,165 +5.4%
1980 3,893,888 +13.1%
1990 4,040,587 +3.8%
2000 4,447,100 +10.1%
2010 4,779,736 +7.5%
2016 4,863,300 +1.7%
Sources: 1910–2010[1]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographics_of_Alabama

(10-04-2017 11:24 AM)SuperFlyBCat Wrote:  

(10-04-2017 11:12 AM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  

(09-28-2017 10:04 PM)HeartOfDixie Wrote:  "African Holocaust"

Wow!

When did that happen?

In places like Alabama for centuries. Millions of Africans were killed in the process of slave transport, through murder by slaveholders, etc.

Just a question. Were Jews that were locked up in concentration camps and forced to work, but survived 'holocaust victims'? If they were, then were the blacks forced to work on slave camps in the American south 'holocaust victims'?

Regardless of the merit of the particular protest at Cornell, the use of the word Holocaust to describe the impact of slavery on Africans is appropriate.

You going to need a link for that. Killing slaves is bad for plantation business.
Population of Alabama
1800 1,250 —
1810 9,046 +623.7%
1820 127,901 +1313.9%
1830 309,527 +142.0%
1840 590,756 +90.9%
1850 771,623 +30.6%
1860 964,201 +25.0%
1870 996,992 +3.4%
1880 1,262,505 +26.6%
1890 1,513,401 +19.9%
1900 1,828,697 +20.8%
1910 2,138,093 +16.9%
1920 2,348,174 +9.8%
1930 2,646,248 +12.7%
1940 2,832,961 +7.1%
1950 3,061,743 +8.1%
1960 3,266,740 +6.7%
1970 3,444,165 +5.4%
1980 3,893,888 +13.1%
1990 4,040,587 +3.8%
2000 4,447,100 +10.1%
2010 4,779,736 +7.5%
2016 4,863,300 +1.7%
Sources: 1910–2010[1]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographics_of_Alabama

Again, in places like Alabama, it occurred. Of course if thousands of slaves were being killed in the course of transport, abuse, overwork, etc, they'd not be in those census figures.

Also, what about those blacks unable to work as slaves....what happened to them?

(10-04-2017 11:27 AM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  

(10-04-2017 11:24 AM)SuperFlyBCat Wrote:  

(10-04-2017 11:12 AM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  

(09-28-2017 10:04 PM)HeartOfDixie Wrote:  "African Holocaust"

Wow!

When did that happen?

In places like Alabama for centuries. Millions of Africans were killed in the process of slave transport, through murder by slaveholders, etc.

Just a question. Were Jews that were locked up in concentration camps and forced to work, but survived 'holocaust victims'? If they were, then were the blacks forced to work on slave camps in the American south 'holocaust victims'?

Regardless of the merit of the particular protest at Cornell, the use of the word Holocaust to describe the impact of slavery on Africans is appropriate.

You going to need a link for that. Killing slaves is bad for plantation business.
Population of Alabama
1800 1,250 —
1810 9,046 +623.7%
1820 127,901 +1313.9%
1830 309,527 +142.0%
1840 590,756 +90.9%
1850 771,623 +30.6%
1860 964,201 +25.0%
1870 996,992 +3.4%
1880 1,262,505 +26.6%
1890 1,513,401 +19.9%
1900 1,828,697 +20.8%
1910 2,138,093 +16.9%
1920 2,348,174 +9.8%
1930 2,646,248 +12.7%
1940 2,832,961 +7.1%
1950 3,061,743 +8.1%
1960 3,266,740 +6.7%
1970 3,444,165 +5.4%
1980 3,893,888 +13.1%
1990 4,040,587 +3.8%
2000 4,447,100 +10.1%
2010 4,779,736 +7.5%
2016 4,863,300 +1.7%
Sources: 1910–2010[1]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographics_of_Alabama

Again, in places like Alabama, it occurred. Of course if thousands of slaves were being killed in the course of transport, abuse, overwork, etc, they'd not be in those census figures.

Also, what about those blacks unable to work as slaves....what happened to them?

You said millions. Slave masters whipped, beat and sometimes would kill a slave, but mass killing = no plantation business. Slaves were always counted in the population, 2/3 = 1, for congressional seats. It was not a holocaust in the USA which is why 500K = 45 Million today.

(10-04-2017 11:37 AM)SuperFlyBCat Wrote:  

(10-04-2017 11:27 AM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  

(10-04-2017 11:24 AM)SuperFlyBCat Wrote:  

(10-04-2017 11:12 AM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  

(09-28-2017 10:04 PM)HeartOfDixie Wrote:  "African Holocaust"

Wow!

When did that happen?

In places like Alabama for centuries. Millions of Africans were killed in the process of slave transport, through murder by slaveholders, etc.

Just a question. Were Jews that were locked up in concentration camps and forced to work, but survived 'holocaust victims'? If they were, then were the blacks forced to work on slave camps in the American south 'holocaust victims'?

Regardless of the merit of the particular protest at Cornell, the use of the word Holocaust to describe the impact of slavery on Africans is appropriate.

You going to need a link for that. Killing slaves is bad for plantation business.
Population of Alabama
1800 1,250 —
1810 9,046 +623.7%
1820 127,901 +1313.9%
1830 309,527 +142.0%
1840 590,756 +90.9%
1850 771,623 +30.6%
1860 964,201 +25.0%
1870 996,992 +3.4%
1880 1,262,505 +26.6%
1890 1,513,401 +19.9%
1900 1,828,697 +20.8%
1910 2,138,093 +16.9%
1920 2,348,174 +9.8%
1930 2,646,248 +12.7%
1940 2,832,961 +7.1%
1950 3,061,743 +8.1%
1960 3,266,740 +6.7%
1970 3,444,165 +5.4%
1980 3,893,888 +13.1%
1990 4,040,587 +3.8%
2000 4,447,100 +10.1%
2010 4,779,736 +7.5%
2016 4,863,300 +1.7%
Sources: 1910–2010[1]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographics_of_Alabama

Again, in places like Alabama, it occurred. Of course if thousands of slaves were being killed in the course of transport, abuse, overwork, etc, they'd not be in those census figures.

Also, what about those blacks unable to work as slaves....what happened to them?

You said millions. Slave masters whipped, beat and sometimes would kill a slave, but mass killing = no plantation business. Slaves were always counted in the population, 2/3 = 1, for congressional seats. It was not a holocaust in the USA which is why 500K = 45 Million today.

Uh, have you seen the mortality rates on slave ships? And what about those slaves unable to work due to infirmity or disability?

So correct me if i've misread this but the basic idea here from our democrat friends is that AA had it tougher than black people from Africa and the Caribbean. If this is indeed the argument then we've reached a new level of absurdity here.

(10-04-2017 12:55 PM)shere khan Wrote:  So correct me if i've misread this but the basic idea here from our democrat friends is that AA had it tougher than black people from Africa and the Caribbean. If this is indeed the argument then we've reached a new level of absurdity here.

I'm not discussing that. A poster made the risible argument that slavery, as practiced in the USA, didn't constitute a holocaust. I'm arguing that it most certainly can be called a holocaust.

Again, were the Jews who died in transport to Nazi workcamps victims of the Holocaust? How about the Africans who died in transport to Southern workcamps?

(10-04-2017 11:27 AM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  

(10-04-2017 11:24 AM)SuperFlyBCat Wrote:  

(10-04-2017 11:12 AM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  

(09-28-2017 10:04 PM)HeartOfDixie Wrote:  "African Holocaust"

Wow!

When did that happen?

In places like Alabama for centuries. Millions of Africans were killed in the process of slave transport, through murder by slaveholders, etc.

Just a question. Were Jews that were locked up in concentration camps and forced to work, but survived 'holocaust victims'? If they were, then were the blacks forced to work on slave camps in the American south 'holocaust victims'?

Regardless of the merit of the particular protest at Cornell, the use of the word Holocaust to describe the impact of slavery on Africans is appropriate.

You going to need a link for that. Killing slaves is bad for plantation business.
Population of Alabama
1800 1,250 —
1810 9,046 +623.7%
1820 127,901 +1313.9%
1830 309,527 +142.0%
1840 590,756 +90.9%
1850 771,623 +30.6%
1860 964,201 +25.0%
1870 996,992 +3.4%
1880 1,262,505 +26.6%
1890 1,513,401 +19.9%
1900 1,828,697 +20.8%
1910 2,138,093 +16.9%
1920 2,348,174 +9.8%
1930 2,646,248 +12.7%
1940 2,832,961 +7.1%
1950 3,061,743 +8.1%
1960 3,266,740 +6.7%
1970 3,444,165 +5.4%
1980 3,893,888 +13.1%
1990 4,040,587 +3.8%
2000 4,447,100 +10.1%
2010 4,779,736 +7.5%
2016 4,863,300 +1.7%
Sources: 1910–2010[1]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographics_of_Alabama

Again, in places like Alabama, it occurred. Of course if thousands of slaves were being killed in the course of transport, abuse, overwork, etc, they'd not be in those census figures.

Also, what about those blacks unable to work as slaves....what happened to them?

They married fat white chicks?

(10-04-2017 11:27 AM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  

(10-04-2017 11:24 AM)SuperFlyBCat Wrote:  

(10-04-2017 11:12 AM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  

(09-28-2017 10:04 PM)HeartOfDixie Wrote:  "African Holocaust"

Wow!

When did that happen?

In places like Alabama for centuries. Millions of Africans were killed in the process of slave transport, through murder by slaveholders, etc.

Just a question. Were Jews that were locked up in concentration camps and forced to work, but survived 'holocaust victims'? If they were, then were the blacks forced to work on slave camps in the American south 'holocaust victims'?

Regardless of the merit of the particular protest at Cornell, the use of the word Holocaust to describe the impact of slavery on Africans is appropriate.

You going to need a link for that. Killing slaves is bad for plantation business.
Population of Alabama
1800 1,250 —
1810 9,046 +623.7%
1820 127,901 +1313.9%
1830 309,527 +142.0%
1840 590,756 +90.9%
1850 771,623 +30.6%
1860 964,201 +25.0%
1870 996,992 +3.4%
1880 1,262,505 +26.6%
1890 1,513,401 +19.9%
1900 1,828,697 +20.8%
1910 2,138,093 +16.9%
1920 2,348,174 +9.8%
1930 2,646,248 +12.7%
1940 2,832,961 +7.1%
1950 3,061,743 +8.1%
1960 3,266,740 +6.7%
1970 3,444,165 +5.4%
1980 3,893,888 +13.1%
1990 4,040,587 +3.8%
2000 4,447,100 +10.1%
2010 4,779,736 +7.5%
2016 4,863,300 +1.7%
Sources: 1910–2010[1]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographics_of_Alabama

Again, in places like Alabama, it occurred. Of course if thousands of slaves were being killed in the course of transport, abuse, overwork, etc, they'd not be in those census figures.

Also, what about those blacks unable to work as slaves....what happened to them?

And, of course, the trans-Atlantic slave trade in the US ended in 1808, while it continued for a while in the Caribbean and Brazil, where the vast majority of African slaves were shipped. There was no desire to kill "property." It wasn't good for business. Using holocaust is no different than using racism for any policy difference. It denigrates the word and your argument.

(10-04-2017 01:30 PM)bullet Wrote:  

(10-04-2017 11:27 AM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  

(10-04-2017 11:24 AM)SuperFlyBCat Wrote:  

(10-04-2017 11:12 AM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  

(09-28-2017 10:04 PM)HeartOfDixie Wrote:  "African Holocaust"

Wow!

When did that happen?

In places like Alabama for centuries. Millions of Africans were killed in the process of slave transport, through murder by slaveholders, etc.

Just a question. Were Jews that were locked up in concentration camps and forced to work, but survived 'holocaust victims'? If they were, then were the blacks forced to work on slave camps in the American south 'holocaust victims'?

Regardless of the merit of the particular protest at Cornell, the use of the word Holocaust to describe the impact of slavery on Africans is appropriate.

You going to need a link for that. Killing slaves is bad for plantation business.
Population of Alabama
1800 1,250 —
1810 9,046 +623.7%
1820 127,901 +1313.9%
1830 309,527 +142.0%
1840 590,756 +90.9%
1850 771,623 +30.6%
1860 964,201 +25.0%
1870 996,992 +3.4%
1880 1,262,505 +26.6%
1890 1,513,401 +19.9%
1900 1,828,697 +20.8%
1910 2,138,093 +16.9%
1920 2,348,174 +9.8%
1930 2,646,248 +12.7%
1940 2,832,961 +7.1%
1950 3,061,743 +8.1%
1960 3,266,740 +6.7%
1970 3,444,165 +5.4%
1980 3,893,888 +13.1%
1990 4,040,587 +3.8%
2000 4,447,100 +10.1%
2010 4,779,736 +7.5%
2016 4,863,300 +1.7%
Sources: 1910–2010[1]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographics_of_Alabama

Again, in places like Alabama, it occurred. Of course if thousands of slaves were being killed in the course of transport, abuse, overwork, etc, they'd not be in those census figures.

Also, what about those blacks unable to work as slaves....what happened to them?

And, of course, the trans-Atlantic slave trade in the US ended in 1808, while it continued for a while in the Caribbean and Brazil, where the vast majority of African slaves were shipped. There was no desire to kill "property." It wasn't good for business. Using holocaust is no different than using racism for any policy difference. It denigrates the word and your argument.

Did it really end in 1808? Sure, MOST importation of slaves to the USA ended at that time, but plenty died in transport within the USA after that date.

Certainly, slave holders didn't want to exterminate their healthy slaves...but what happened to them when they became unable to work?

I argue that Holocaust can be used to describe the American treatment of its slaves.

Racism is a fact of life in the USA today. Policies can be racist and motivated by racism. And in the USA, they are. Just because some white people don't like to hear that word...doesn't mean it isn't there.