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RE: Can't Wait To Watch Vanover's Development
(09-26-2017 08:46 AM)macgar32 Wrote:  
(09-22-2017 03:40 PM)salukiblue Wrote:  
(09-22-2017 03:28 PM)BandwagonJumper Wrote:  everyone needs to remember that you can't teach 7'4"

would you rather try to develop a 6'1" kid or a 7'4" kid?

Tall is awesome as long as it works on both ends of the court.

I have been consistent (and others who sometimes don't see eye to eye all the time) that the kid better not be a 7'4 wing in college.

It's easy getting off a three pointer when some 5'5 inch kid from {insert name} Baptist Tech is closing in on you. A lot different if some athletic 6'7 dude is sticking on you as you cross halfcourt.

He's really going to need to be a low post presence if he is going to be of use in college. I'm looking forward to seeing him at Findlay this year--that will give us a good indication of readiness for next year.

The height is intriguing and he's definitely worth having on the roster.

Anytime you can pull a center out of the paint it is a good thing especially if you have guards who can drive. If Conner can shoot 40% from the 3 in college it is better than a 2 without handles (Woodson) shooting 40% from 3 in college because it clears the lane of a big man.

The question is can we hide him on defense

95+% of the time h.s. stats don't measure up to college stats.

So when someone averages 15 and 9 in small school ball in Arkansas and shoots 40%, one can expect a sizable dropoff in high D1 ball.

Like I noted, he won't have 5'4 guards closing in on him when he shoots and if he shows the ability to shoot, he'll have guys draped on him as he crosses half court.

I am still very curious to see how he performs at Findlay. That will be a good barometer on what level of participation we can expect in 2018.
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RE: Can't Wait To Watch Vanover's Development
(09-26-2017 09:19 AM)salukiblue Wrote:  
(09-26-2017 08:46 AM)macgar32 Wrote:  
(09-22-2017 03:40 PM)salukiblue Wrote:  
(09-22-2017 03:28 PM)BandwagonJumper Wrote:  everyone needs to remember that you can't teach 7'4"

would you rather try to develop a 6'1" kid or a 7'4" kid?

Tall is awesome as long as it works on both ends of the court.

I have been consistent (and others who sometimes don't see eye to eye all the time) that the kid better not be a 7'4 wing in college.

It's easy getting off a three pointer when some 5'5 inch kid from {insert name} Baptist Tech is closing in on you. A lot different if some athletic 6'7 dude is sticking on you as you cross halfcourt.

He's really going to need to be a low post presence if he is going to be of use in college. I'm looking forward to seeing him at Findlay this year--that will give us a good indication of readiness for next year.

The height is intriguing and he's definitely worth having on the roster.

Anytime you can pull a center out of the paint it is a good thing especially if you have guards who can drive. If Conner can shoot 40% from the 3 in college it is better than a 2 without handles (Woodson) shooting 40% from 3 in college because it clears the lane of a big man.

The question is can we hide him on defense

95+% of the time h.s. stats don't measure up to college stats.

So when someone averages 15 and 9 in small school ball in Arkansas and shoots 40%, one can expect a sizable dropoff in high D1 ball.

Like I noted, he won't have 5'4 guards closing in on him when he shoots and if he shows the ability to shoot, he'll have guys draped on him as he crosses half court.

I am still very curious to see how he performs at Findlay. That will be a good barometer on what level of participation we can expect in 2018.

If he has 6'10 centers draped all over him when he has the ball 22' from the basket preventing him from shooting, that will be just as good as making 40% of them.
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RE: Can't Wait To Watch Vanover's Development
(09-26-2017 09:38 AM)Stammers Wrote:  
(09-26-2017 09:19 AM)salukiblue Wrote:  
(09-26-2017 08:46 AM)macgar32 Wrote:  
(09-22-2017 03:40 PM)salukiblue Wrote:  
(09-22-2017 03:28 PM)BandwagonJumper Wrote:  everyone needs to remember that you can't teach 7'4"

would you rather try to develop a 6'1" kid or a 7'4" kid?

Tall is awesome as long as it works on both ends of the court.

I have been consistent (and others who sometimes don't see eye to eye all the time) that the kid better not be a 7'4 wing in college.

It's easy getting off a three pointer when some 5'5 inch kid from {insert name} Baptist Tech is closing in on you. A lot different if some athletic 6'7 dude is sticking on you as you cross halfcourt.

He's really going to need to be a low post presence if he is going to be of use in college. I'm looking forward to seeing him at Findlay this year--that will give us a good indication of readiness for next year.

The height is intriguing and he's definitely worth having on the roster.

Anytime you can pull a center out of the paint it is a good thing especially if you have guards who can drive. If Conner can shoot 40% from the 3 in college it is better than a 2 without handles (Woodson) shooting 40% from 3 in college because it clears the lane of a big man.

The question is can we hide him on defense

95+% of the time h.s. stats don't measure up to college stats.

So when someone averages 15 and 9 in small school ball in Arkansas and shoots 40%, one can expect a sizable dropoff in high D1 ball.

Like I noted, he won't have 5'4 guards closing in on him when he shoots and if he shows the ability to shoot, he'll have guys draped on him as he crosses half court.

I am still very curious to see how he performs at Findlay. That will be a good barometer on what level of participation we can expect in 2018.

If he has 6'10 centers draped all over him when he has the ball 22' from the basket preventing him from shooting, that will be just as good as making 40% of them.

Nah, a 6'7 athuletic guy will do well enough on the perimeter.

Imagine a 7'4 guy trying to put the ball on the floor vs. a 6'7 guy who can defend?

He'll end up having to be a statue on the wing only able to catch and shoot.

Now, if you want your 7'4 to be a catch and shoot guy on offense...
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RE: Can't Wait To Watch Vanover's Development
(09-26-2017 09:42 AM)salukiblue Wrote:  
(09-26-2017 09:38 AM)Stammers Wrote:  
(09-26-2017 09:19 AM)salukiblue Wrote:  
(09-26-2017 08:46 AM)macgar32 Wrote:  
(09-22-2017 03:40 PM)salukiblue Wrote:  Tall is awesome as long as it works on both ends of the court.

I have been consistent (and others who sometimes don't see eye to eye all the time) that the kid better not be a 7'4 wing in college.

It's easy getting off a three pointer when some 5'5 inch kid from {insert name} Baptist Tech is closing in on you. A lot different if some athletic 6'7 dude is sticking on you as you cross halfcourt.

He's really going to need to be a low post presence if he is going to be of use in college. I'm looking forward to seeing him at Findlay this year--that will give us a good indication of readiness for next year.

The height is intriguing and he's definitely worth having on the roster.

Anytime you can pull a center out of the paint it is a good thing especially if you have guards who can drive. If Conner can shoot 40% from the 3 in college it is better than a 2 without handles (Woodson) shooting 40% from 3 in college because it clears the lane of a big man.

The question is can we hide him on defense

95+% of the time h.s. stats don't measure up to college stats.

So when someone averages 15 and 9 in small school ball in Arkansas and shoots 40%, one can expect a sizable dropoff in high D1 ball.

Like I noted, he won't have 5'4 guards closing in on him when he shoots and if he shows the ability to shoot, he'll have guys draped on him as he crosses half court.

I am still very curious to see how he performs at Findlay. That will be a good barometer on what level of participation we can expect in 2018.

If he has 6'10 centers draped all over him when he has the ball 22' from the basket preventing him from shooting, that will be just as good as making 40% of them.

Nah, a 6'7 athuletic guy will do well enough on the perimeter.

Imagine a 7'4 guy trying to put the ball on the floor vs. a 6'7 guy who can defend?

He'll end up having to be a statue on the wing only able to catch and shoot.

Now, if you want your 7'4 to be a catch and shoot guy on offense...

What I noticed from all the video is that on defense he is under the basket and is willing to mix it up. He contests and blocks shots, and he fights for rebounds. He has good form on his outside shot so he is coordinated and can be taught a couple of basic moves on offense.

He obviously needs to bulk up and gain strength. If he is being guarded by a 6'7 player he should be able to shoot over him if his man is behind him, or have guards throw it over the top to him if his man is in front of him.

Some players refuse to do the dirty work inside. If that is the case he won't see the floor. When you have a lot of good players you happily take a flyer on a player like him. When a lot of your front line is graduating in 2 years or isn't highly ranked and can't be expected to be great, you might not be able to afford it.
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RE: Can't Wait To Watch Vanover's Development
(09-26-2017 09:19 AM)salukiblue Wrote:  
(09-26-2017 08:46 AM)macgar32 Wrote:  
(09-22-2017 03:40 PM)salukiblue Wrote:  
(09-22-2017 03:28 PM)BandwagonJumper Wrote:  everyone needs to remember that you can't teach 7'4"

would you rather try to develop a 6'1" kid or a 7'4" kid?

Tall is awesome as long as it works on both ends of the court.

I have been consistent (and others who sometimes don't see eye to eye all the time) that the kid better not be a 7'4 wing in college.

It's easy getting off a three pointer when some 5'5 inch kid from {insert name} Baptist Tech is closing in on you. A lot different if some athletic 6'7 dude is sticking on you as you cross halfcourt.

He's really going to need to be a low post presence if he is going to be of use in college. I'm looking forward to seeing him at Findlay this year--that will give us a good indication of readiness for next year.

The height is intriguing and he's definitely worth having on the roster.

Anytime you can pull a center out of the paint it is a good thing especially if you have guards who can drive. If Conner can shoot 40% from the 3 in college it is better than a 2 without handles (Woodson) shooting 40% from 3 in college because it clears the lane of a big man.

The question is can we hide him on defense

95+% of the time h.s. stats don't measure up to college stats.

So when someone averages 15 and 9 in small school ball in Arkansas and shoots 40%, one can expect a sizable dropoff in high D1 ball.

Like I noted, he won't have 5'4 guards closing in on him when he shoots and if he shows the ability to shoot, he'll have guys draped on him as he crosses half court.

I am still very curious to see how he performs at Findlay. That will be a good barometer on what level of participation we can expect in 2018.

If he has a center draped all over him at the 3 point line he has done his job...I don't care if he shoots one shot if that Center is not in the paint. That is the point...If bigs are forced to leave the paint it opens it up for Martin and our non shooting guards.
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RE: Can't Wait To Watch Vanover's Development
His stats at Findlay will really tell us more, including how many mins he gets. That place is around 25K per year. They better fatten him up some, for that price.
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RE: Can't Wait To Watch Vanover's Development
(09-26-2017 09:42 AM)salukiblue Wrote:  
(09-26-2017 09:38 AM)Stammers Wrote:  
(09-26-2017 09:19 AM)salukiblue Wrote:  
(09-26-2017 08:46 AM)macgar32 Wrote:  
(09-22-2017 03:40 PM)salukiblue Wrote:  Tall is awesome as long as it works on both ends of the court.

I have been consistent (and others who sometimes don't see eye to eye all the time) that the kid better not be a 7'4 wing in college.

It's easy getting off a three pointer when some 5'5 inch kid from {insert name} Baptist Tech is closing in on you. A lot different if some athletic 6'7 dude is sticking on you as you cross halfcourt.

He's really going to need to be a low post presence if he is going to be of use in college. I'm looking forward to seeing him at Findlay this year--that will give us a good indication of readiness for next year.

The height is intriguing and he's definitely worth having on the roster.

Anytime you can pull a center out of the paint it is a good thing especially if you have guards who can drive. If Conner can shoot 40% from the 3 in college it is better than a 2 without handles (Woodson) shooting 40% from 3 in college because it clears the lane of a big man.

The question is can we hide him on defense

95+% of the time h.s. stats don't measure up to college stats.

So when someone averages 15 and 9 in small school ball in Arkansas and shoots 40%, one can expect a sizable dropoff in high D1 ball.

Like I noted, he won't have 5'4 guards closing in on him when he shoots and if he shows the ability to shoot, he'll have guys draped on him as he crosses half court.

I am still very curious to see how he performs at Findlay. That will be a good barometer on what level of participation we can expect in 2018.

If he has 6'10 centers draped all over him when he has the ball 22' from the basket preventing him from shooting, that will be just as good as making 40% of them.

Nah, a 6'7 athuletic guy will do well enough on the perimeter.

Imagine a 7'4 guy trying to put the ball on the floor vs. a 6'7 guy who can defend?

He'll end up having to be a statue on the wing only able to catch and shoot.

Now, if you want your 7'4 to be a catch and shoot guy on offense...

A 7'4 spot up guy is better than a 6'2 guy spot up guy...Because the 7'4 guy clears the lane of a shot blocker.

Secondly I am not sure how well Conner will shoot with pressure but have you ever tried to close out on someone 7 inches taller than you...Honestly it really doesn't bother them much if you are good at what they do.
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RE: Can't Wait To Watch Vanover's Development
(09-26-2017 11:29 AM)macgar32 Wrote:  
(09-26-2017 09:42 AM)salukiblue Wrote:  
(09-26-2017 09:38 AM)Stammers Wrote:  
(09-26-2017 09:19 AM)salukiblue Wrote:  
(09-26-2017 08:46 AM)macgar32 Wrote:  Anytime you can pull a center out of the paint it is a good thing especially if you have guards who can drive. If Conner can shoot 40% from the 3 in college it is better than a 2 without handles (Woodson) shooting 40% from 3 in college because it clears the lane of a big man.

The question is can we hide him on defense

95+% of the time h.s. stats don't measure up to college stats.

So when someone averages 15 and 9 in small school ball in Arkansas and shoots 40%, one can expect a sizable dropoff in high D1 ball.

Like I noted, he won't have 5'4 guards closing in on him when he shoots and if he shows the ability to shoot, he'll have guys draped on him as he crosses half court.

I am still very curious to see how he performs at Findlay. That will be a good barometer on what level of participation we can expect in 2018.

If he has 6'10 centers draped all over him when he has the ball 22' from the basket preventing him from shooting, that will be just as good as making 40% of them.

Nah, a 6'7 athuletic guy will do well enough on the perimeter.

Imagine a 7'4 guy trying to put the ball on the floor vs. a 6'7 guy who can defend?

He'll end up having to be a statue on the wing only able to catch and shoot.

Now, if you want your 7'4 to be a catch and shoot guy on offense...

A 7'4 spot up guy is better than a 6'2 guy spot up guy...Because the 7'4 guy clears the lane of a shot blocker.

Secondly I am not sure how well Conner will shoot with pressure but have you ever tried to close out on someone 7 inches taller than you...Honestly it really doesn't bother them much if you are good at what they do.
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RE: Can't Wait To Watch Vanover's Development
(09-26-2017 11:29 AM)macgar32 Wrote:  
(09-26-2017 09:42 AM)salukiblue Wrote:  
(09-26-2017 09:38 AM)Stammers Wrote:  
(09-26-2017 09:19 AM)salukiblue Wrote:  
(09-26-2017 08:46 AM)macgar32 Wrote:  Anytime you can pull a center out of the paint it is a good thing especially if you have guards who can drive. If Conner can shoot 40% from the 3 in college it is better than a 2 without handles (Woodson) shooting 40% from 3 in college because it clears the lane of a big man.

The question is can we hide him on defense

95+% of the time h.s. stats don't measure up to college stats.

So when someone averages 15 and 9 in small school ball in Arkansas and shoots 40%, one can expect a sizable dropoff in high D1 ball.

Like I noted, he won't have 5'4 guards closing in on him when he shoots and if he shows the ability to shoot, he'll have guys draped on him as he crosses half court.

I am still very curious to see how he performs at Findlay. That will be a good barometer on what level of participation we can expect in 2018.

If he has 6'10 centers draped all over him when he has the ball 22' from the basket preventing him from shooting, that will be just as good as making 40% of them.

Nah, a 6'7 athuletic guy will do well enough on the perimeter.

Imagine a 7'4 guy trying to put the ball on the floor vs. a 6'7 guy who can defend?

He'll end up having to be a statue on the wing only able to catch and shoot.

Now, if you want your 7'4 to be a catch and shoot guy on offense...

A 7'4 spot up guy is better than a 6'2 guy spot up guy...Because the 7'4 guy clears the lane of a shot blocker.

Secondly I am not sure how well Conner will shoot with pressure but have you ever tried to close out on someone 7 inches taller than you...Honestly it really doesn't bother them much if you are good at what they do.

Not if the 7'4 guy camps out at the arc. He's then essentially a three on offense and the other team's three just stays out there while their big stays in the lane.

It appears from both his HS and AAU videos that he spends A LOT of time beyond the arc on offense.

And that would make sense why in AAU he was only the third leading rebounder (only 5.5 a game) on his team while being second on the team in 3 pointers attempted.
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RE: Can't Wait To Watch Vanover's Development
Welp, maybe there are a few things someone can teach him right away....Connor was trying to front a guy (Stanley) who was nearly a foot shorter.
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RE: Can't Wait To Watch Vanover's Development
(09-26-2017 01:10 PM)salukiblue Wrote:  
(09-26-2017 11:29 AM)macgar32 Wrote:  
(09-26-2017 09:42 AM)salukiblue Wrote:  
(09-26-2017 09:38 AM)Stammers Wrote:  
(09-26-2017 09:19 AM)salukiblue Wrote:  95+% of the time h.s. stats don't measure up to college stats.

So when someone averages 15 and 9 in small school ball in Arkansas and shoots 40%, one can expect a sizable dropoff in high D1 ball.

Like I noted, he won't have 5'4 guards closing in on him when he shoots and if he shows the ability to shoot, he'll have guys draped on him as he crosses half court.

I am still very curious to see how he performs at Findlay. That will be a good barometer on what level of participation we can expect in 2018.

If he has 6'10 centers draped all over him when he has the ball 22' from the basket preventing him from shooting, that will be just as good as making 40% of them.

Nah, a 6'7 athuletic guy will do well enough on the perimeter.

Imagine a 7'4 guy trying to put the ball on the floor vs. a 6'7 guy who can defend?

He'll end up having to be a statue on the wing only able to catch and shoot.

Now, if you want your 7'4 to be a catch and shoot guy on offense...

A 7'4 spot up guy is better than a 6'2 guy spot up guy...Because the 7'4 guy clears the lane of a shot blocker.

Secondly I am not sure how well Conner will shoot with pressure but have you ever tried to close out on someone 7 inches taller than you...Honestly it really doesn't bother them much if you are good at what they do.

Not if the 7'4 guy camps out at the arc. He's then essentially a three on offense and the other team's three just stays out there while their big stays in the lane.

It appears from both his HS and AAU videos that he spends A LOT of time beyond the arc on offense.

And that would make sense why in AAU he was only the third leading rebounder (only 5.5 a game) on his team while being second on the team in 3 pointers attempted.

I realize he's not a banger, but surely he can post up a 3. I can't imagine us not trying to exploit that kind of mismatch.
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RE: Can't Wait To Watch Vanover's Development
(09-26-2017 01:41 PM)cscottl1981 Wrote:  
(09-26-2017 01:10 PM)salukiblue Wrote:  
(09-26-2017 11:29 AM)macgar32 Wrote:  
(09-26-2017 09:42 AM)salukiblue Wrote:  
(09-26-2017 09:38 AM)Stammers Wrote:  If he has 6'10 centers draped all over him when he has the ball 22' from the basket preventing him from shooting, that will be just as good as making 40% of them.

Nah, a 6'7 athuletic guy will do well enough on the perimeter.

Imagine a 7'4 guy trying to put the ball on the floor vs. a 6'7 guy who can defend?

He'll end up having to be a statue on the wing only able to catch and shoot.

Now, if you want your 7'4 to be a catch and shoot guy on offense...

A 7'4 spot up guy is better than a 6'2 guy spot up guy...Because the 7'4 guy clears the lane of a shot blocker.

Secondly I am not sure how well Conner will shoot with pressure but have you ever tried to close out on someone 7 inches taller than you...Honestly it really doesn't bother them much if you are good at what they do.

Not if the 7'4 guy camps out at the arc. He's then essentially a three on offense and the other team's three just stays out there while their big stays in the lane.

It appears from both his HS and AAU videos that he spends A LOT of time beyond the arc on offense.

And that would make sense why in AAU he was only the third leading rebounder (only 5.5 a game) on his team while being second on the team in 3 pointers attempted.

I realize he's not a banger, but surely he can post up a 3. I can't imagine us not trying to exploit that kind of mismatch.

He certainly brings unique opportunities.
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RE: Can't Wait To Watch Vanover's Development
(09-26-2017 01:10 PM)salukiblue Wrote:  
(09-26-2017 11:29 AM)macgar32 Wrote:  
(09-26-2017 09:42 AM)salukiblue Wrote:  
(09-26-2017 09:38 AM)Stammers Wrote:  
(09-26-2017 09:19 AM)salukiblue Wrote:  95+% of the time h.s. stats don't measure up to college stats.

So when someone averages 15 and 9 in small school ball in Arkansas and shoots 40%, one can expect a sizable dropoff in high D1 ball.

Like I noted, he won't have 5'4 guards closing in on him when he shoots and if he shows the ability to shoot, he'll have guys draped on him as he crosses half court.

I am still very curious to see how he performs at Findlay. That will be a good barometer on what level of participation we can expect in 2018.

If he has 6'10 centers draped all over him when he has the ball 22' from the basket preventing him from shooting, that will be just as good as making 40% of them.

Nah, a 6'7 athuletic guy will do well enough on the perimeter.

Imagine a 7'4 guy trying to put the ball on the floor vs. a 6'7 guy who can defend?

He'll end up having to be a statue on the wing only able to catch and shoot.

Now, if you want your 7'4 to be a catch and shoot guy on offense...

A 7'4 spot up guy is better than a 6'2 guy spot up guy...Because the 7'4 guy clears the lane of a shot blocker.

Secondly I am not sure how well Conner will shoot with pressure but have you ever tried to close out on someone 7 inches taller than you...Honestly it really doesn't bother them much if you are good at what they do.

Not if the 7'4 guy camps out at the arc. He's then essentially a three on offense and the other team's three just stays out there while their big stays in the lane.

It appears from both his HS and AAU videos that he spends A LOT of time beyond the arc on offense.

And that would make sense why in AAU he was only the third leading rebounder (only 5.5 a game) on his team while being second on the team in 3 pointers attempted.

Again when you are giving up 7 inches it is tough to guard a shooter. And I would hope that if they put their 5 on our 4 or their 4 on our 3 we would have an advantage there as well.

When you have guys who are good at an aspect you exploit it...Doesn't matter their height. If they put a 6-6 guy on Vanover you have him dive to the lane and just throw him a lob...It is an easy pass that would be difficult to defend giving up 7 inches. He won't have to post up in that situation, just shoot over the little guy 3 feet from the basket.
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RE: Can't Wait To Watch Vanover's Development
(09-26-2017 03:40 PM)macgar32 Wrote:  
(09-26-2017 01:10 PM)salukiblue Wrote:  
(09-26-2017 11:29 AM)macgar32 Wrote:  
(09-26-2017 09:42 AM)salukiblue Wrote:  
(09-26-2017 09:38 AM)Stammers Wrote:  If he has 6'10 centers draped all over him when he has the ball 22' from the basket preventing him from shooting, that will be just as good as making 40% of them.

Nah, a 6'7 athuletic guy will do well enough on the perimeter.

Imagine a 7'4 guy trying to put the ball on the floor vs. a 6'7 guy who can defend?

He'll end up having to be a statue on the wing only able to catch and shoot.

Now, if you want your 7'4 to be a catch and shoot guy on offense...

A 7'4 spot up guy is better than a 6'2 guy spot up guy...Because the 7'4 guy clears the lane of a shot blocker.

Secondly I am not sure how well Conner will shoot with pressure but have you ever tried to close out on someone 7 inches taller than you...Honestly it really doesn't bother them much if you are good at what they do.

Not if the 7'4 guy camps out at the arc. He's then essentially a three on offense and the other team's three just stays out there while their big stays in the lane.

It appears from both his HS and AAU videos that he spends A LOT of time beyond the arc on offense.

And that would make sense why in AAU he was only the third leading rebounder (only 5.5 a game) on his team while being second on the team in 3 pointers attempted.

Again when you are giving up 7 inches it is tough to guard a shooter. And I would hope that if they put their 5 on our 4 or their 4 on our 3 we would have an advantage there as well.

When you have guys who are good at an aspect you exploit it...Doesn't matter their height. If they put a 6-6 guy on Vanover you have him dive to the lane and just throw him a lob...It is an easy pass that would be difficult to defend giving up 7 inches. He won't have to post up in that situation, just shoot over the little guy 3 feet from the basket.

6’6 isn’t little to me, but I hear you.
09-26-2017 04:22 PM
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Post: #95
RE: Can't Wait To Watch Vanover's Development
(09-26-2017 04:22 PM)Joe1 Wrote:  
(09-26-2017 03:40 PM)macgar32 Wrote:  
(09-26-2017 01:10 PM)salukiblue Wrote:  
(09-26-2017 11:29 AM)macgar32 Wrote:  
(09-26-2017 09:42 AM)salukiblue Wrote:  Nah, a 6'7 athuletic guy will do well enough on the perimeter.

Imagine a 7'4 guy trying to put the ball on the floor vs. a 6'7 guy who can defend?

He'll end up having to be a statue on the wing only able to catch and shoot.

Now, if you want your 7'4 to be a catch and shoot guy on offense...

A 7'4 spot up guy is better than a 6'2 guy spot up guy...Because the 7'4 guy clears the lane of a shot blocker.

Secondly I am not sure how well Conner will shoot with pressure but have you ever tried to close out on someone 7 inches taller than you...Honestly it really doesn't bother them much if you are good at what they do.

Not if the 7'4 guy camps out at the arc. He's then essentially a three on offense and the other team's three just stays out there while their big stays in the lane.

It appears from both his HS and AAU videos that he spends A LOT of time beyond the arc on offense.

And that would make sense why in AAU he was only the third leading rebounder (only 5.5 a game) on his team while being second on the team in 3 pointers attempted.

Again when you are giving up 7 inches it is tough to guard a shooter. And I would hope that if they put their 5 on our 4 or their 4 on our 3 we would have an advantage there as well.

When you have guys who are good at an aspect you exploit it...Doesn't matter their height. If they put a 6-6 guy on Vanover you have him dive to the lane and just throw him a lob...It is an easy pass that would be difficult to defend giving up 7 inches. He won't have to post up in that situation, just shoot over the little guy 3 feet from the basket.

6’6 isn’t little to me, but I hear you.

Or giving up 10 inches
09-27-2017 06:56 AM
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