(09-22-2017 12:13 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  

(09-22-2017 10:41 AM)miko33 Wrote:  

(09-22-2017 10:37 AM)Fitbud Wrote:  Kilmeade brought himself into this fight. Kimmel was focused on Cassidy until stupid Kilmeade opened his big mouth. Maybe he should put his money where his mouth is.

Stupid statement to make. The country was designed for give and take dialogue. When Kimmel responded in such an ugly way, he tried to stop the discussion cold so that only his POV is left. The moment Kimmel went ad-hominem and threatened violence, he lost the argument.

Kimmel lost this one.

We'll see how this all plays out. I have a feeling he is going to win.

Liberals have been thinking they've been winning for quite a few years now.

Reality says differently.

1,042 losses during Obama's tenure.

(09-22-2017 06:00 AM)Fort Bend Owl Wrote:  Perhaps it's unfair to place you in with the other two. You're right, you don't comment on Trump that much.

Lol

And I didn't vote for Trump either, until the General when there was no other choice.

You're welcome to your perception of course, mine is that Cassidy is answering questions, offering to discuss or explain anything in question, while this comedian is calling people names and generally acting like a pompous, celebrity ass. Like so many of them.
Quite sure he'll win a Grammy or something from his adoring fellow celebrity elitists.

(09-22-2017 12:45 PM)umbluegray Wrote:  

(09-22-2017 12:13 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  

(09-22-2017 10:41 AM)miko33 Wrote:  

(09-22-2017 10:37 AM)Fitbud Wrote:  Kilmeade brought himself into this fight. Kimmel was focused on Cassidy until stupid Kilmeade opened his big mouth. Maybe he should put his money where his mouth is.

Stupid statement to make. The country was designed for give and take dialogue. When Kimmel responded in such an ugly way, he tried to stop the discussion cold so that only his POV is left. The moment Kimmel went ad-hominem and threatened violence, he lost the argument.

Kimmel lost this one.

We'll see how this all plays out. I have a feeling he is going to win.

Liberals have been thinking they've been winning for quite a few years now.

Reality says differently.

1,042 losses during Obama's tenure.

Last time I checked, we still have Obamacare.

(09-22-2017 12:54 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  

(09-22-2017 12:45 PM)umbluegray Wrote:  

(09-22-2017 12:13 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  

(09-22-2017 10:41 AM)miko33 Wrote:  

(09-22-2017 10:37 AM)Fitbud Wrote:  Kilmeade brought himself into this fight. Kimmel was focused on Cassidy until stupid Kilmeade opened his big mouth. Maybe he should put his money where his mouth is.

Stupid statement to make. The country was designed for give and take dialogue. When Kimmel responded in such an ugly way, he tried to stop the discussion cold so that only his POV is left. The moment Kimmel went ad-hominem and threatened violence, he lost the argument.

Kimmel lost this one.

We'll see how this all plays out. I have a feeling he is going to win.

Liberals have been thinking they've been winning for quite a few years now.

Reality says differently.

1,042 losses during Obama's tenure.

Last time I checked, we still have Obamacare.

Lol

And THAT'S your win?!?

Hahahahaha

(09-22-2017 12:41 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  

(09-22-2017 12:28 PM)VA49er Wrote:  

(09-22-2017 01:54 AM)Fort Bend Owl Wrote:  I need someone who isn't a Trumpite to chime in here. Kronke, JMU and Erics revenge agreeing with each other isn't going to change my mind.

I'll tell you what - if Georgia Tech Swagger or Owl 69/70/75 agree with you on Kimmel, then I'll shut up. They certainly haven't swallowed the Trump purple koolaid.

Based just on the words used by each, Kimmel and Cassidy, Kimmel was acting like a jerk. He even went after the Fox guy, who in turn responded very professionally, further making Kimmel look like a jerk. Kimmel may have some sort of a point; however, his delivery leaves much to be desired.

Kimmel's beef was with Cassidy. Kilmeade stuck his big nose in their business so Jimmy war right to go after him.

Nevertheless, Kimmel's response was immature and asinine and Kilmeade's response professional and courteous.

(09-22-2017 10:37 AM)Fitbud Wrote:  Kilmeade brought himself into this fight. Kimmel was focused on Cassidy until stupid Kilmeade opened his big mouth. Maybe he should put his money where his mouth is.

Maybe Kimmel should, as well. Drop his private insurance (hypocrite) and be forced onto a bronze-level Obamacare plan. I bet the hospital his son had his surgery at doesn't even take it.

(09-22-2017 12:56 PM)JMUDunk Wrote:  

(09-22-2017 12:54 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  

(09-22-2017 12:45 PM)umbluegray Wrote:  

(09-22-2017 12:13 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  

(09-22-2017 10:41 AM)miko33 Wrote:  Stupid statement to make. The country was designed for give and take dialogue. When Kimmel responded in such an ugly way, he tried to stop the discussion cold so that only his POV is left. The moment Kimmel went ad-hominem and threatened violence, he lost the argument.

Kimmel lost this one.

We'll see how this all plays out. I have a feeling he is going to win.

Liberals have been thinking they've been winning for quite a few years now.

Reality says differently.

1,042 losses during Obama's tenure.

Last time I checked, we still have Obamacare.

Lol

And THAT'S your win?!?

Hahahahaha

Isn't that what this is all about? Repeal of Obamacare?

I don't care about the Kilmeade kerfuffle, but I don't think it's even arguable that Kimmel has been mis-representing Graham Cassidy. Of course, he's an entertainer and I would never expect him to give me accurate information on current events/issues.

(09-22-2017 01:32 PM)Brookes Owl Wrote:  I don't care about the Kilmeade kerfuffle, but I don't think's even arguable that Kimmel has been mis-representing Graham Cassidy. Of course, he's an entertainer and I would never expect him to give me accurate information on current events/issues.

That is correct. However, the fact checkers clearly seem to favor what Kimmel said however.

McCain deals the "Dead on Arrival" blow.

(09-22-2017 01:52 PM)fsquid Wrote:  McCain deals the "Dead on Arrival" blow.

He was one of the main reasons for why I left the Republican party. He still sucks.

(09-22-2017 02:00 PM)GrayBeard Wrote:  

(09-22-2017 01:52 PM)fsquid Wrote:  McCain deals the "Dead on Arrival" blow.

He was one of the main reasons for why I left the Republican party. He still sucks.

well you can come back in a few months.

Kimmel wins

(09-22-2017 01:36 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  

(09-22-2017 01:32 PM)Brookes Owl Wrote:  I don't care about the Kilmeade kerfuffle, but I don't think's even arguable that Kimmel has been mis-representing Graham Cassidy. Of course, he's an entertainer and I would never expect him to give me accurate information on current events/issues.

That is correct. However, the fact checkers clearly seem to favor what Kimmel said however.

The "fact checkers" reside in the left-wing of the political spectrum. That you point to them to "scoreboard" us on the right, is quite telling.

Fact checkers..

(09-22-2017 01:54 AM)Fort Bend Owl Wrote:  I need someone who isn't a Trumpite to chime in here. Kronke, JMU and Erics revenge agreeing with each other isn't going to change my mind.
I'll tell you what - if Georgia Tech Swagger or Owl 69/70/75 agree with you on Kimmel, then I'll shut up. They certainly haven't swallowed the Trump purple koolaid.

Not a fan of anybody involved--not Kimmel, not Cassidy, not Kilmeade, not Graham, not of this bill--so don't have any strong feelings one way or the other. I do think Kimmel was out of line, but I don't think he was the only one.

I would not vote for this bill. I've made it pretty clear what I would support.