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RE: Maine @ JMU thread
(09-23-2017 07:48 PM)Hart Foundation Wrote:  
(09-23-2017 06:54 PM)Longhorn Wrote:  
(09-23-2017 05:49 PM)DoubleDDuke Wrote:  I was watching from an airport on mute. What's up with John Miller? Do we get Alls back next week?

John Miller was neither dressed or on the sideline. No mention of an injury, so my guess is something's up that has him in the doghouse. Hopefully a reporter will find out and share the scoop soon.

My thoughts on today's game. First, I told ya so. Had to get that out of the way. JMU is not invincible. The defending National Champs can be beat any FCS team, or be humbled if the opponent is tough and JMU doesn't play its best game.

Hats off to Maine. The team JMU that played today is solid. Their freshmen QB was in over his head, but thank goodness for that weakness. Maine with a seasoned, above average QB might have beat the Dukes today.

Still, JMU's D played well, excusing the one long Maine run for the TD. There were times I felt Trott wasn't asking the D to be aggressive enough, but JMU got the job done.

It's my opinion that JMU fans have grown accustomed to avalanches of points, and we're shocked this game wasn't unfolding that way. It's already been mentioned, but I didn't like the way the offense executed, or the way the plays were called. Both aspects seemed off today, and missing Miller (especially on returns) was part of it.

So where's John Miller?

John Miller played today, but very sparingly in a reserve role. In the post game pressed Schor mentioned he was dinged up and wasn't expected to play much today. Miller is definitely better than Amos on punt returns. Amos looked like a fish out of water and even lined up wrong once by standing 50 yards back instead of 40. Of course the punt bounced. The Dukes got lucky in that it didn't bounce forward.

Mike Houston is like a hockey coach when it comes to injuries. I don't know what's up with Holloway or Miller who are two big time talents on our team. The only thing I know is they're out there very little and Mike won't tell us why. I guess I don't get it ... just weird.
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Can Someone (Houston, Jmu, curt, Jmu sports) tweet or something to show the importance of staying the whole game? Not familiar with all this . This was a one possession game and we were half full.
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(09-23-2017 08:32 PM)Navyduke 07 Wrote:  Can Someone (Houston, Jmu, curt, Jmu sports) tweet or something to show the importance of staying the whole game? Not familiar with all this . This was a one possession game and we were half full.

Maybe parents weekend had something to do with it, but a big op-ed in the Breeze would be nice.
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(09-23-2017 07:19 PM)Navyduke 07 Wrote:  Even Coach Houston said. This was the best team we faced all year. Whatever comes out of his mouth I believe. Once we got rolling late we easily could have added a TD. We are fine. Woods had a nice game. The freshman WR was on point. Slow start but end result was good. Nothing to be worried about.

My wife is on the Parent's Council, and they had a breakfast meeting with Houston this morning. He said that Maine was going to be our toughest challenge to date, that their RB is a stud, their lines are solid, and that we were going to be in for a dogfight. When I saw her this afternoon before the game, she was very concerned we were going to lose based on what Houston was saying. (I, being a know-it-all, said she was crazy.)

Coach knows what he's talking about. As uncomfortable as I was for most the game today, I'm always confident Houston knows what's what, will be prepared, and will make adjustments when necessary.
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(09-23-2017 08:32 PM)Navyduke 07 Wrote:  Can Someone (Houston, Jmu, curt, Jmu sports) tweet or something to show the importance of staying the whole game? Not familiar with all this . This was a one possession game and we were half full.

This is not a new issue. It is the result of winning 52-10 and 75-14 in previous weeks against schools the students dont care about. JB, JA and Ck will be excited about the sell out because all they care about are the #'s. Conference home opener, national champs in a dog fight and the place is maybe half full. This is the path they've chosen.
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And we are only using....50% ? Of the playbook..tops...this is intentional
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I'm not sure if it makes any difference but I've been talking about this for years. Why is college football halftime 20 minutes when NFL is 12 minutes?
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(09-23-2017 09:34 PM)DoubleDDuke Wrote:  I'm not sure if it makes any difference but I've been talking about this for years. Why is college football halftime 20 minutes when NFL is 12 minutes?

I had no idea. Ncaa rule or Jmu? 15 mins is plenty.
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(09-23-2017 09:36 PM)Navyduke 07 Wrote:  I had no idea. Ncaa rule or Jmu? 15 mins is plenty.

NCAA rule
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(09-23-2017 09:38 PM)DevilDawg Wrote:  
(09-23-2017 09:36 PM)Navyduke 07 Wrote:  I had no idea. Ncaa rule or Jmu? 15 mins is plenty.

NCAA rule

Thanks. Seems a bit much. More time for sponsors and advertising?

Almost think we should do like we did during playoffs. Free tuition, free meal plan etc. do that every game.

Even open it up. Lunch with Houston, Bourne, pick your player.
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(09-23-2017 06:29 PM)BDKJMU Wrote:  
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(09-23-2017 04:33 PM)BDKJMU Wrote:  2013 @ Maine 31-0 until last minute, 31-7 final.

It was 2012, not 2013. If you're going to insist on being a literal know-it-all at least be accurate with your bullsh!t.
I see someone pissed in your cherrios. A couple people said Maine always plays JMU tough. Blew them out not long ago, esp considering they don't play every season.

Okay, I half apologize. I didn't see where up top someone mentioned he couldn't "recall the last time Maine didn't play us tough." So your reply was appropriate for that. I was reacting to your response the post about Maine "always" playing us tough. Maybe he should have written "usually" or "typically" but I think most folks know what he was saying. But you're in there splitting hairs with an equally flawed statement.

So I guess my point is if you're going to BDK posters all the time, when you screw up you need to go BDK yourself.
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(09-23-2017 07:44 PM)Dukesfan71 Wrote:  Miller played a few snaps. He has an injury. Coach mentioned that in presser.

Thanks. I looked real hard along the sidelines for him (even brought my spy glasses today) and couldn't find him.
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One of the most bizarre things I have ever seen.
4th and 3 at the Maine 10, Maine punter drops the ball in the endzone, picks it up, and is running with it. Gets back to the line of scrimmage near the sideline before he gets tattooed by Maginley. No penalty flag thrown.

JMU gets posession, backups in, runs a play well inside the 10 to around the 5? yard line. Then the ref says the previous play is under review. But it wasn't the previous play. It was TWO plays prior. WTF?01-wingedeagle The rule was once another play has been run you can't go back and review it!

Then after at least a 5 min review Maginley is ejected for targeting. WTF? The Maine punter was running with the ball. He was about 13 yards give or take behind the line of scrimmage at the 10 (about 3 yards deep in the endzone) when he began running. So getting to around the sideline he probably covered around 25 yards in distance.

How in the heck can you have targeting called on a guy who is running with the football, when there is no flag thrown on the play to boot, then wait 2 plays later to overturn it?01-wingedeagle Am I missing something here?

Now Maginely is suspended from the 1st half of the UD game.
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(09-23-2017 11:29 PM)BDKJMU Wrote:  How in the heck can you have targeting called on a guy who is running with the football, when there is no flag thrown on the play to boot, then wait 2 plays later to overturn it?01-wingedeagle Am I missing something here?

As I understand it, the referee must have received a signal or made the decision to,review the play out of the punt formation before the ball was snapped after what would have been the turnover on downs as called on the field.

My perspective of the replay was that there was helmet to helmet contact, but I haven't reviewed it again since the broadcast. I understand that all targeting calls are reviewed, and intent is irrelevant. What is new to me is a review of a play to determine if a penalty was missed. It almost seems as if the officials borrowed a page from the MLS, Bundesliga, FIFA, video review system.
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As rough as things looked today we are actually further along than last year with a much younger group of guys. Can't imagine where we'd be if not for the injuries to Cardon and Tyree but when you think about how many Fr and So players are playing then things should hopefully progress really well as the season goes on. The WRs are especially stepping up and should improve as they develop a rapport with Schor they just can't get without game-time experience.
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(09-23-2017 11:29 PM)BDKJMU Wrote:  One of the most bizarre things I have ever seen.
4th and 3 at the Maine 10, Maine punter drops the ball in the endzone, picks it up, and is running with it. Gets back to the line of scrimmage near the sideline before he gets tattooed by Maginley. No penalty flag thrown.

JMU gets posession, backups in, runs a play well inside the 10 to around the 5? yard line. Then the ref says the previous play is under review. But it wasn't the previous play. It was TWO plays prior. WTF?01-wingedeagle The rule was once another play has been run you can't go back and review it!

Then after at least a 5 min review Maginley is ejected for targeting. WTF? The Maine punter was running with the ball. He was about 13 yards give or take behind the line of scrimmage at the 10 (about 3 yards deep in the endzone) when he began running. So getting to around the sideline he probably covered around 25 yards in distance.

How in the heck can you have targeting called on a guy who is running with the football, when there is no flag thrown on the play to boot, then wait 2 plays later to overturn it?01-wingedeagle Am I missing something here?

Now Maginely is suspended from the 1st half of the UD game.

Just watched on Tivo. Horrible officiating on this call, along with the missed helmet to helmet contact that looked intentional earlier. Pretty sure MH will send this one in, and hopefully they will overturn and provide the refs with some additional “education” on the rules.
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(09-23-2017 04:33 PM)BDKJMU Wrote:  
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(09-23-2017 03:57 PM)bcp_jmu Wrote:  Maine really played well - INTs killed them... their RB is damn good... hope they have a great season

Go dukes... 4-0

I know it's happened but I can't recall the last time Maine didn't play us tough.

(09-23-2017 04:22 PM)JMad03 Wrote:  Maine always plays us tough. Last year against Maine was not easy either. I always think of Maine as a dark horse that many leave out of the equation as top teams in the CAA. Their coach is very good and they will continue to be a tough opponent.

2012 @ Maine 31-0 until last minute, 31-7 final.

Yeah like I said, I knew it happened. Couldn't remember when though and didn't feel like looking it up.
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(09-23-2017 04:00 PM)bcp_jmu Wrote:  ^ you gotta get me one of those jumpsuits

You like these, man?! Done!
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(09-20-2017 10:50 AM)CarolinaDuke Wrote:  My prediction is 28-10 good guys!
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(09-24-2017 12:00 AM)2Buck Wrote:  As rough as things looked today we are actually further along than last year with a much younger group of guys. Can't imagine where we'd be if not for the injuries to Cardon and Tyree but when you think about how many Fr and So players are playing then things should hopefully progress really well as the season goes on. The WRs are especially stepping up and should improve as they develop a rapport with Schor they just can't get without game-time experience.

Agree. Lots of new lineman, receivers and Running backs. We have had injuries along the line, running back and receiver. And Kloo missed two games. I am confident we will have a championship offense as the season progresses.

Our defense already is at last years end of year level and maybe better.

Our new punter has done a great job. Our return game needs work but I am confident it will improve.

It is hard to win football games. Our opponents want to win as much as we do and they are working hard. 6-2 could win the CAA outright this year. The improvement of Elon and Rhode Island is impressive.
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